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popeye1250 -> RE: Watching the Democratic Debate? (1/31/2008 8:38:22 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd
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ORIGINAL: ravennfyre
I'm watching...
I have a question/thought about immigration...please feel free to pick it apart...
Puerto Rico is a US territory. Why doesn't the US make Mexico a US territory? Make it an extension of California or something like that... I'm in Michigan, and we have a HUGE influx of Mexicans (illegal, I'm assuming) that work the fruit farms...It's hard enough finding a job for ME, and they're taking them because they work cheaper and are a minority...Please correct me if I've misspoken anywhere...
See.. that is what I love about fellow Americans.. *sighs and takes in a deep breath to keep from screaming*
To assume some one is an "illegal" simply because of thier Hispanic origin, and profession shows how deeply ingrained our politcans and media has put fear of immigrants, and hispanics in general.
To illustrate how ingrained it is... I was at a walmart in line behind an hispanic family, the little girl brushed past me, and my son~ pushing him a bit. She was about 7. I looked at her and said Excuse you, and left it alone. My son.. who should damn well know better said " Why did you bother? she prob. doesnt even speak english" He is 10. All of this bull shit our govt has fed us is even filtering down to our kids. My other half is Cuban. You know that shit sure as hell did not come from my home. I have never been so pissed off at my son in my life as I was at that moment. When the little girl came back, I made him appologize to her, and her family for not being understanding. She appologized to him for not saying "excuse me". Her family spoke English as well as I do. We had a *huge* discussion when we got out into the car.
As far as jobs go and the "illegals" stealing jobs from you and other hard working Americans... Show me an American who is willing to pick tomatos, be a maid, do heavy labor, basicaly do the shittiest jobs for the lowest pay in our country.
If you want your jobs back go after the govt for thier trade agreements, giving tax *breaks* to companies who outsource our jobs ( the ones we actualy are willing to do ) and about devaluing our dollar so that it is now so weak we can no longer compete.
It is easy to deflect the facts of the govt screwing over the American public esp. the middle class by supporting the Large Corporations and lining the politicans pockets for doing so for ages. They had blindsided the American Public by demonizing groups of people who are "different" and thereby outsiders and easy to hate, disenfranchise and be rid of.
Get people good and rilled up about these issues and they wont notice how bad things really are, and who's hand is in the cookie jar.
Did any body else wonder why in the last 8 years the Gays, and Hispanics have become the "great evils" ?
It does how ever show how easy people fall into prejudices.
I am not picking on you... many unfortuantly feel the same way you do ~but your view does show exactly how well thier plan worked.
Gwyn
Gwyn, and that's another thing that I don't like about my fellow Americans; why do they think that *any* job in this country should be "lousey paying?"
We don't respect labor in this country anymore?
Hell I'd pick tomatoes "off the books" for a decent wage!
We can't expect people to work for $8 an hour anymore these days! That's the problem.
I have a sister who's an x-ray teck in New Hampshire and makes $31.50 per hour.
That may sound like good pay to some but she told me they should be up to $40 an hour by now. No raises or cost of living allowances for the last three years.
I have a brother who's a Lt. on a Boston area Fire Dept who makes about $95k base salary plus another $30k or so on O.T.'s and details.
His Captain makes $120k.
They haven't had a new Union Contract in almost 4 years and he said they're getting close to picketing city hall.
Anyone who needs tomatoe pickers sure doesn't care about COLAs or raises or decent pay.
And as for "accents" anytime I heard an Irish accent in Boston I just automatically assumed they were illegal because so many of them are.
You have to go with the odds!
You're right about getting rid of those phoney "trade deals" that are nothing but "outsourcing" deals in disguise.
"Hard Labor" jobs used to be construction jobs and they payed very well.
I think that there's some type of predjudice against paying American Citizens a good wage!
If you take out an ad for laborers at $25 per hour and benefits you won't have any trouble getting help and you won't have to hire illegal aliens "off the books."
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