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TracyTaken -> Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 6:44:42 PM)

I'm quitting smoking.  I have help too.  My dom is in control of the lighter.  It's sort of like slooooow torture, but not the fun kind.  In addition to run of the mill irritable-all-to-heck and feeling tired, I'm getting really nasty headaches and have a terrific earache ... to which he would respond:  "Earache, my eye ..."   I just dated myself (and him) big time, LOL.

I'm really considering alternatives.  I have a toaster!

Cripes, but this is really hard.  I'm starting to feel genuinely ticked off at him, and that doesn't happen often.

I know that it is physiological, but knowing that doesn't help.

Suggestions?




MistressVnus -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 6:48:48 PM)

Drink LOTS of water and stay busy.




creatrix -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 7:06:40 PM)

I tried earlier in Janurary and failed miserably. My former hated smoking and I was never allowed to smoke around him, near him or before we were together. I am going to attempt stopping again...
HArd part for me is that the dope fiend brain kicks into gear as soon as I realize NO MORE EVER... Yeah... then I start freaking.... after the freaking out, I start to scam on how I can get just one hit... even bummed them off folks in the grocery store... and I end up smoking the whole cigarette, even when with each puff I told myself I was only having one more... and then it was gone...! yeah... that is a dope fiend way of thinking. It sux. All I did was think about smoking... that is severe obsession... and the compulsion is where we just cannot stop trying to figure it all out... it is constant... one puff always tunrns into one whole cigarette and then it's a whole pack and back up to the daily dose of almost two packs a day... If I was a miser... the money issue alone would get me to stop... In Michigan, a pack of Basics is at $5.00. Amazing! Marlboros and other top brands are at least $5.50 - $6.00 and don't even think about getting a pack in a vending machine in a bar! $8.00 and up!

Anyone who smokes (and is hooked) on cigarettes understands --or should be open-minded-- exactly what a crack-head goes through.... it is just difficult to look at the additcion that way... but addiction is addiction...

From what I understand, it dissipates after a few weeks, but you ask anyone who has quit... it is a challenge... one I have yet to be the winner over.

Luck and blessings...




TysGalilah -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 7:12:53 PM)

 
Ohhh gosh Tracy!!  good luck : )
    I've never smoked
my brother-in-law did years ago >had help from nicoret gum ... and then always kept a toothpick in his mouth, shrugs...said it helped with the mouthy thing.
 
my daughter did ..cold turkey...
had the flu and was so sick and in bed for a week  so that gave her a headstart....from there when she would crave one> she sucked on a cold-pop  ....sugar free popscicle ...said it helped alot.  her last cig was a year ago Dec 21st.  When she began to eat a little more than she knew was typical > she began taking walks...said the exercise helped her psychologically too..and reminded her that it was easier to do things like that now that she didn't have icky lung stuff going on..
 
  A girlfriend of mine quit 4 years ago.  She took up painting (oil ~ canvass)   said it gave her an outlet and something else to think about and do with her hands.
 
I hope some of those suggestions can help...
 
kudos to you : )  and best of luck !!
 
 
 
 




daddyncherry -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 7:49:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TracyTaken

"Earache, my eye ..."   I just dated myself (and him) big time, LOL.




[sm=biggrin.gif][sm=banana.gif]

Now i will have that song in my head for the whole weekend!!!




IrishMist -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 7:51:20 PM)

Something that worked for me...I started going outside anytime I wanted to smoke. After a while, it got to be a nuisance and I noticed that I started smoking less and less until eventually, it was not even worth going outside anymore.





daddyncherry -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 7:51:50 PM)

Okay, more seriously.....i totally feel for your plight....YIKES....i wish you all the best....don't give up.

i am a smoker and a serious coffeholic and Daddy made me cut down to 3 cups a day (rather than 6-8) and if i didn't then the cigarttes were gonna be on the table.....i find that i clean when i want to have coffee and i also have to try not to eat to compensate.


BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!




IrishMist -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 7:55:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daddyncherry

Okay, more seriously.....i totally feel for your plight....YIKES....i wish you all the best....don't give up.

i am a smoker and a serious coffeholic and Daddy made me cut down to 3 cups a day (rather than 6-8) and if i didn't then the cigarttes were gonna be on the table.....i find that i clean when i want to have coffee and i also have to try not to eat to compensate.


BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!


Dayum, you are a tenderfoot when it comes to coffee lol. I drink like 6 to 8 POTS a day, and that's slow for me lol.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 8:00:49 PM)

Why is there a lighter to be in control of?  Does he also smoke?




daddyncherry -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 8:01:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddyncherry

Okay, more seriously.....i totally feel for your plight....YIKES....i wish you all the best....don't give up.

i am a smoker and a serious coffeholic and Daddy made me cut down to 3 cups a day (rather than 6-8) and if i didn't then the cigarttes were gonna be on the table.....i find that i clean when i want to have coffee and i also have to try not to eat to compensate.


BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!


Dayum, you are a tenderfoot when it comes to coffee lol. I drink like 6 to 8 POTS a day, and that's slow for me lol.


LOL....you must have the heart beat of a squirrel!!! LMAO....i almost always HAD a cup of coffee in my hand...so a pot to a pot and a half were my usual..this past week has totally sucked eggs for me.




greyangelus -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 8:19:33 PM)

Theres 2 drugs available if your interested, Zyban and Chantix.  Be aware, they're knida expensive, but your doc will have like no problem giving you the prescription ( mine had whipped out the pen and was writing before I finished my sentence, lol)




cautiousiasub -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 8:20:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

Something that worked for me...I started going outside anytime I wanted to smoke. After a while, it got to be a nuisance and I noticed that I started smoking less and less until eventually, it was not even worth going outside anymore.




I stopped smoking in the house and in the car and that helped me a lot too. Exercise and finding something to occupy your hands also helps. Also, change your routine a little bit...if you normally light a cigarette as soon as you get up in the morning, take a shower first instead.  Some people suggest sugar-free candy or popsicles, but it always seem to make my craving worse. YMMV. I used Chantix to quit smoking, which helped me a lot, but I think it depends on the person and the situation. I had some added incentive of health problems that scared me into quitting.

Some advice I got from my physician to help prevent relapses: never fool yourself into thinking that you can just have one more, whether it's been a month, a year, or twenty years, it will cause those receptors in your brain that feed off of nicotine to light right back up. People also tend to backslide during a stressful situation, so find another way to deal with stress and if the issue comes up, ask yourself if smoking a cigarette is really going to help the situation.

The fact that your Dom is willing to support you with this is awesome...good luck and keep trying!!!!

Edited to add: greyangelus mentioned the cost of the medication, and it can be kind of expensive (Chantix was around $100 for a month supply), but when you figure how much you spend on cigarettes, you're actually coming out ahead, especially over the long run.




MadRabbit -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 8:21:39 PM)

After a year of going back and forth with nicotine patchs, I got Chantix. It is expensive, but since the first of the year, quite a few HMOs will cover it now.

The effects have been nothing short of amazing.




SirJohnMandevill -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/1/2008 10:21:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist
you are a tenderfoot when it comes to coffee lol. I drink like 6 to 8 POTS a day, and that's slow for me lol.


I know you're not looking....but I simply MUST have you, Mist! I drink the stuff right from the spout of the big metal urns....unless, of course, I'm mainlining.... [sm=lol.gif]

Les (Purveyor of Fine, Caffeinated Kink)




ProlificNeeds -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/2/2008 5:11:56 AM)

Patches, gum, 'cutting back', none of those worked for me. I quit cold turkey, got it out of my system, and then dealt with the psychological addiction afterwards. It helped I quit cold turkey when I was sick. So sick I couldn't have smoked if I'd wanted to try. I was told three days at the amount I smoked was all it took for the true physical withdrawl to stop. The rest was in my head. That made the issue all the more realistic to face. Everytime I 'felt grouchy' or whatever, I told myself it was BS and in my head, and I'd been relying on a drug to control my mood. That makes you kind of wake up and get tough on yourself.

Keeping my hands busy and staying away from other smokers was the way to go. Whenever you feel the need to break down and buy, just tell yourself "I'm saving money by not buying" and drive by. Everytime you want to bum froms omeone nearby who is smoking, get away fromt he situation.
Out of sight, out of mind IS the way to handle it at first. Handle each craving one at a time and kick yourself hard. Just focus on WHY you are quitting. To be healthier and happier, and more attractive (ever kissed an ashtray?).




liljoy -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/2/2008 5:36:42 AM)

i got a script for chantix. Master is getting a script on Monday. We are going to quit together. It's way scarey. i've quit several times in the past but packed on the pounds like crazy and fought alot with the person i was with at the time. i really don't want either of those things to happen this time.




TracyTaken -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/2/2008 6:25:11 AM)

Thank you, everyone, for your kind words, support and wisdom.

He does not smoke, but we've both lost parents to tobacco.  You'd think that would be one heck of a motivator, but this a real bitch of an addiction.  He keeps telling me that he doesn't want to be hauling my oxygen tank around in our golden years.  We're also in the midst of  restoring an old bungalow (as if that wasn't enough to make you pull your hair out), and he would really like it be smoke-free (me too).

So, he keeps the lighter, I get two or three puffs and he tells me to put it out.  I think he's actually enjoying it, lol.

Like I said, its honor-system, because I have a toaster, which could make a fine, if unwieldy, lighter, so I could light up and slip out the back door.  I haven't sunk that low, yet.  It's difficult actually having the cigarettes and not being able to smoke as much as I want.  I'm thinking it might be easier not to have them around at all.

I've read really good things about Chantrix and am going to try that if this fails.

Thanks again for all of your help.




BloodLuna -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/2/2008 6:52:57 AM)

luna agrees with those who suggested Chantix.
 
Master is 38.  He has been smoking since he was 12.  He was smoking 2 1/2 packs a day when he started chantix.  within the first 4 days he was down to 4 cigarettes a day and by the end of the first week he didn't want them anymore.  it is a bit expensive at almost $100 a refill w/o insurance but its only a 12 week program.  it works by blocking the receptors in the brain that process nicotine.  so even if you slip and have a cigarette the nicotine isn't absorbed. 
 
good luck to you!
luna
slave of Masterdruid666
House of Pendragon




MadRabbit -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/2/2008 6:57:36 AM)

A pack a day at prices in Charleston over a month is roughly the same amount as a prespriction for one month of Chantix. It helps if you give an honest assessment of your monthly spending on smokes and then compare it to the aids.




ProlificNeeds -> RE: Withdrawal and D/s (2/2/2008 8:08:57 AM)

Note: I just caught a news mention of the FDA receiving complaints of serious psychological issues related to the use of Chantix, 35 suicides have now been linked to the use of the drug. It has only been FDA approved for 1 year. Thought I'd toss that here as I thought of this thread when I heard the news clip.




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