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SunLord -> Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 7:39:14 AM)

When you love someone how does it effect you in relation to your dark expressions? What are your feelings toward your partner? Do you do anything differnet? Noob questions I'm sure but I wonder how others feel in this matter.

SL




IrishMist -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 7:57:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunLord

When you love someone how does it effect you in relation to your dark expressions? What are your feelings toward your partner? Do you do anything differnet? Noob questions I'm sure but I wonder how others feel in this matter.

SL


Love affects different people in different ways. For myself, the deeper the feelings, the better the reactions [8D]




Justme696 -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 8:07:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunLord

When you love someone how does it effect you in relation to your dark expressions? What are your feelings toward your partner? Do you do anything differnet? Noob questions I'm sure but I wonder how others feel in this matter.

SL



I am mostly in love before I take a sub (or at least like her very very much). It was never in the way..just made it eassier.




TracyTaken -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 8:09:26 AM)

quote:

When you love someone how does it effect you in relation to your dark expressions?
 

Could you clarify this?  I'm not sure if you are talking about deep, dark secrets or some activity or something else.




pixelslave -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 8:12:17 AM)

Without a doubt for me, the more I care for someone, the deeper my submission grows.  Similarly, the deeper my submission grows, the more I seem to be able to love and care for that special woman.  It's something of an endless spiral.  It all becomes more intimate for me.  She eventually becomes able to tap into the submissive core at the center of my being and bring out what I refer to as the uninhibited "submissive slut" and play with it for out mutual enjoyment. [8D]
 
In part it's about building trust; something much easier to do with someone you love.  The more you feel that love, the more you're able to trust and share. [&:]
 
 - pixel




batshalom -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 8:17:28 AM)

Because I have to trust my Dominant completely, I can't submit without loving him. It is a long process, just like a vanilla thing only with kink and different authority.




RoughFN -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 8:18:03 AM)

I'm pretty sure there are a few other threads on this subject, but I'm no good at searching around here...

I've had it effect me two different ways. One girl years ago I started to have some feelings for and did sorta feel a little guilty about smacking her around so much. My current girl I love very deeply and dearly and I'm much more sadistic as a result of it. I dunno, maybe just gave me the feeling that I can let go and give in more. I know I love her, she knows I love her, she loves me, and that's not going to change because of a scene in anyway, so it's fairly liberating.

But it's all very person and situation dependent.




ProlificNeeds -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 8:32:45 AM)

Love and trust are the two key components for me to submit to a partner. Without one or the other, there's no power exchange.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 10:15:42 AM)


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breatheasone -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 10:23:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RoughFN

I'm pretty sure there are a few other threads on this subject, but I'm no good at searching around here...

I've had it effect me two different ways. One girl years ago I started to have some feelings for and did sorta feel a little guilty about smacking her around so much. My current girl I love very deeply and dearly and I'm much more sadistic as a result of it. I dunno, maybe just gave me the feeling that I can let go and give in more. I know I love her, she knows I love her, she loves me, and that's not going to change because of a scene in anyway, so it's fairly liberating.

But it's all very person and situation dependent.

I completely agree...With the extra bond of love, I believe one is MORE free to express, MORE of who and what they are. When you love, and are loved back....you are free indeed!




Statepalace -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 11:06:53 AM)

The more love I feel, the more I am willing to share those "dark expressions" with Him. Loving Him makes it safe to do that.

I want to see the sadistic parts of Him, the parts that really want to make me cry. I can feel ok to explore the "dark" things, as you said, because I know that He cares about me (even though I am sure yet if He loves me).

Because I love Him, it changes what I feel ok doing with Him. I want to give Him whatever He wants because I love Him. It amplifies how submissive I feel.  




Shawn1066 -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 11:31:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunLord

When you love someone how does it effect you in relation to your dark expressions? What are your feelings toward your partner? Do you do anything differnet? Noob questions I'm sure but I wonder how others feel in this matter.

SL



I don't have "dark expressions".

That being said, I love my Owner and I would have needed to love her before I put all my trust into her.




takenbyjohnr07 -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 12:01:16 PM)

i couldn't be in a relationship without love, or at least i haven't had to yet. :)

Love makes everything more special, more meaningful and more deep. We are able to share everything with each other and we have built up a relationship, based on love, trust and honesty.

Love is the icing on the cake, it makes everything so much sweeter and so much more enjoyable.




littleone35 -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 1:59:20 PM)

I liked my previous Master at least at first i did.  I can not honestly say i loved him.  My wonderful Master now, well we are very much in love.  I think the fact that we are in love makes our relationship stronger and deeper.  When one is in love (at least for me) it enhances everything.  I trust him with my heart and life.

Matt's littleone




greenearth21 -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 7:15:16 PM)

When you love someone how does it effect you in relation to your dark expressions? What are your feelings toward your partner? Do you do anything differnet? Noob questions I'm sure but I wonder how others feel in this matter.

Love is a powerful thing for me (i'm sure for everyone as well).  I'd be more willing to explore my dark expressions and openly share them...whereas otherwise...i'd test the waters before.  My fear is that I would love a (great) dominant in a much deeper way than I would say... a vanilla because for me...theres somethign different between a d/s and vanila relationship....hm now that I think about it...its a scary thing if i do find it.




LPslittleclip -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 7:18:06 PM)

when you care deeply and strongly for someone isnt that the definition of love? All of my expressions are happy and bright . [:)] i feel lost without my M'Lady.




quick -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/2/2008 7:47:10 PM)

I have to love the man to trust him. When I trust him, everything is wonderful.




onthenosetone -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/3/2008 12:12:43 AM)

Never been one for casual play, I love my Ma'am and am submissive to her 24/7, we have no secrets, mind you it's 14 years now she's been inside my head so I couldn't keep a secret from her anyway[:)]




KnightofMists -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/3/2008 9:29:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SunLord

When you love someone how does it effect you in relation to your dark expressions? What are your feelings toward your partner? Do you do anything differnet? Noob questions I'm sure but I wonder how others feel in this matter.

SL



for me it Intentisfies it!




sweetsubie -> RE: Love and BDSM (2/3/2008 10:18:03 AM)

I don't think i could ever be any ones sub without already loving them before or without the possibility of loving them. I sub because i love making my Master happy and if i didnt love him then there would simply be no point to me infact it would depress me greatly and i think it would lead me to resent him.




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