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DelilahDeb -> RE: Subspace..... (3/16/2008 9:23:16 PM)

http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/ejacula.htm

The images alone on that page are attributed to medical research and imagery of the past 28 years; and, further, the whole controversy over "whether" a G-spot (also called the female prostate) exists is a bunk. Simple biological fact is, that every embryo starts out with the same potentialities, and when sexual differentiations begin to emerge, then and only then things begin to be XX or XY. (I'm not getting into genetic abnormalities like XXY, thanks.)

Now, if you, Sailing Bum, have no nipples at all, then perhaps you have some grounds for arguing that female humans have no female prostate, also called G-spot. But if you're trying to tell me that humans don't have a prostate, then it's been a while since your last proctological exam.

Delilah Deb
grumpy girl..no one's paid attention to me for a whole day...





petpete -> RE: Subspace..... (3/17/2008 1:25:57 AM)

Thanks Kirren. Thank the Goddess You have a brain and You can think for me and correct me as You desire.. Oh by the way!! Don't throw Your quarters away, they can have some better use You know??




cjan -> RE: Subspace..... (3/17/2008 6:09:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysaysfindher

not to sound catty but do you own a vagina personally? because there DEFINATELY is a G spot (or can be called the female prostate,) ever been with a woman that gushed upon orgasm? or just with a woman that when was fucked just right totally went off the edge? um yeah thats the G spot man....and if you hit it repeatedly either with your penis or toy or even fingers (what ever is inserted) can be the most beautiful thing to watch!  spend more time finding this spot (which is typically located on the upper wall of the vagina about 1/2 to 2 inches inside, and feels almost spongy and thick when she is aroused but differs from the rest of the vaginal walls ) and you can really get your subbie/slave to be at your every beckon call hehe, not that a true sub/slave wouldnt be but just saying easier to attract flies with honey then vinager ya know?


pp doesn't own a vigina "personally". He rents one from time to time, as he's said in this thread.




camille65 -> RE: Subspace..... (3/17/2008 6:54:41 AM)

G Spot: Italian Perv Professor Claims Ultrasound Can Hunt Out the ...
A professor from the University of L'Aquila in Italy says has discovered a clue
which may point the way to.http://gizmodo.com/359150/italian-perv-professor-claims-ultrasound-can-hunt-out-...
Italian researchers find evidence of the G-spot - Sex Rx with Ian ...
Mar 8, 2008 ... Few phenomena in this world are sliced and diced more than the female orgasm ,
and a new study that finds physical evidence of the G-spot is ...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23505436/
BBC NEWS | Health | Female G spot 'can be detected'
The mysterious G spot - supposedly a route to female sexual satisfaction - can
be located with ultrasound, claim Italian scientists. ...http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7254523.stm
G Spot: Italian Perv Professor Claims Ultrasound Can Hunt Out the ...
A professor from the University of L'Aquila in Italy says has discovered a clue
which may point the way to the fabled G-Spot—or at least prove that some ...http://www.mixx.com/stories/113943/g-spot-italian-perv-professor-claims-ultrasou...
Scientist may be first man to find the female G-spot - Times Online
Feb 21, 2008 ... An Italian scientist believes he may have found the female G-spot. Emmanuele Jannini,
of the University of L’Aquila, claims to have found ...http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3406113.ece




cjan -> RE: Subspace..... (3/17/2008 3:13:58 PM)

Sorry. Think I owe you an "a"".




Kirren -> RE: Subspace..... (3/17/2008 5:35:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cjan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirren

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysaysfindher

not to sound catty but do you own a vagina personally? because there DEFINATELY is a G spot (or can be called the female prostate,) ever been with a woman that gushed upon orgasm? or just with a woman that when was fucked just right totally went off the edge? um yeah thats the G spot man....and if you hit it repeatedly either with your penis or toy or even fingers (what ever is inserted) can be the most beautiful thing to watch!  spend more time finding this spot (which is typically located on the upper wall of the vagina about 1/2 to 2 inches inside, and feels almost spongy and thick when she is aroused but differs from the rest of the vaginal walls ) and you can really get your subbie/slave to be at your every beckon call hehe, not that a true sub/slave wouldnt be but just saying easier to attract flies with honey then vinager ya know?



Yer banging yer head against a wall sweets...they wont listen. Apparently two of the male species know more than any woman ever created. I dont guess they got the memo that two heads are not always better than one.


Lmao. So true, Darlin'. Or even four heads...two "bigger" ones and two tinie winnies. What do that add up to ? Four ?



If theyre lil ones...then....it would be 2 and 3/4




Kirren -> RE: Subspace..... (3/17/2008 5:38:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: petpete

Thanks Kirren. Thank the Goddess You have a brain and You can think for me and correct me as You desire.. Oh by the way!! Don't throw Your quarters away, they can have some better use You know??



Dont speak My name like you know Me...and I most assuredly do not need your permission to correct you about something that you obviously dont know anything about.

The quarters are for you to rent your next "domme". Im sure that should buy you a lil time to find the g spot.




catize -> RE: Subspace..... (3/17/2008 6:15:41 PM)

I can’t speak for anyone else, but I do have a “golly gee!!!” spot…..as in “golly gee would you hit that spot again, Sir? “  At which point I become incoherent but those sounds I’m making are easily interpreted as ‘golly gee! Oh my, gollllly geeeee!’[:D]




Evlgryn -> RE: Subspace..... (3/17/2008 11:47:57 PM)

Gentlemen, and Ladies:

Research says there is a G-spot, the gutteral sound my slave makes when my cock is hitting a certain angle says there is a G-spot. Still people doubt.

Remember, a womans vagina is not a hole...neither is it all things to all men. A womans anatomy, more than a mans is tied to her mood, her head and who and under what circumstances she is interacting with.

Sure you can poke her and prod her and conclude with scientific certainty that there is no G-spot. But that is the equivalent of a doctor reaching into a mans pants grabbing his member roughly and concluding that all we have wrapped in our boxers is a flacid pink worm. Yes,  the random grabbing  resembles  scientific method. It might  be objective and it is (the gold standard of experimental method)...reproducable. But it is totally wrong. A man's cock should not be judged in the rough hands of scientists; but in the moment of engorged purple splendor while being carressed by the women who love us. Cold gusts of artic air and calloused uncaring hands do not bring out the best in anyone.

THE TRUTH IS THE Gspot can't be "FOUND".   

You can't jump on it with both feet , plant a flag on it and claim it for god and country.  You must seduce, it caress it....convince it to come out and play.  Like an erection it is not just a body part...it is a condition of that body part that is brought about by arousal and the interaction of physical and mental stimulus..  The complexity of  female human arousal  has more than defied medical science, for centuries.  She sticks out her clit at medical science like a pink tongue: as much as to say "NYAH NYAH you will never figure us out". But some things we know and can count on. You must hold and carress the whole woman. body and soul (some you should grab and whip...with luck they will let you know which kind they are), if you don't have all of them...you don't have any of them.    

While you are sliding your fingers or cock  or dildo or whatever you both like best, in and out of that queen of all  orifices...you may notice a change in her rythms...breathing...the sounds of her groans. You may not. While slipping two fingers into her pussy in the old "come hither" gesture  you may notice the spongey flesh between your finger tips and the back of her pubic bone  become more swolen...you may not. Some men never notice any swelling or pulsing of blood and  reddening of the lips of the vagina. They may not notice the blush across the breasts and throat that comes with orgasm. These men are either just not paying attention or maybe "She's just not that into you". Neither condition precludes the existence of the Gspot.

The Kinsey studies were published saying the clit was the source of virtually all female orgasms... because their method was fatally flawed. They tested for sensitivity with an instrument the size of a Qtip. You don't have to be a "size queen" to know nothing the size of a Qtip pushed in and out of the vagina is going to make the average american woman cum.. It just ain't gonna happen. So they never saw vaginal  (or god forbid anal) orgasms.  And their personal sexual experience must have been so lacking or their egos so great, that they couldn't see how wrong they were.

A few things I know to be so.   In an intimate and satisfying relationship with a man a womans body learns to anticipate things....starts the ball rolling with lubrication and blood flow and swelling of the nipples,  labia ,the walls of the vagina, and yes the G-spot. With time her body  learns the ways and rythms of responding to her man by becoming more receptive in a number of ways. Give the Gspot a chance...some of them are shy and slow to make an appearance. Don't beat on it like a castle gate barring your entrance. Slide by it around it , just ignore it some of the time. One fine spring day, you may be just passing  by it (with the head of your cock). And you might hear a new sound from your woman a deeper sound. THEN ,  you will know you are onto something.

Also ....some women flow and squirt. Some to the point of soaking the sheets...some to the point where it squirts out almost like urine. I know, I have polaroids (I am a kinkster what can I say). But it does not taste or smell to my senses like Urine it is almost tasteless I read once it is closer to a man's precum..

I also know if you listen to the brand new research and enthusiasticly manipulate that spongey spot they describe... you will not "stick in your thumb and pull out a plumb". She will likely tell you to stop it makes her feel like she has to pee.  Such is life.  So go slow and don't put all your eggs in one basket. Which is to say on't be so intent on the G-spot that you forget to whip her and pull her hair.

The first time a woman looked up at me during an intimate clench and asked me if I was a sadist I was 19 and it was not in response to anything sadistic. I had read that pressing the heal of your hand at the base of a womans spine would stimulate a nerve cluster to help her reach orgasm. It may well be true, I think I have seen it with other women...but to this woman it just feel like I was trying to poke her in a painful manner.  Since then I have had a profound distrust of book learning translating to the bedroom. Victorian porn knew all about female ejaculation...it is full of descriptions of women "spending". How did these guys forget??
"
My final words of wisdom children; lighten up. Don't forget the joys of what we used to call  "third base". Any time spent deep in a warm responsive pussy is a good time. And you ladies....isn't any time spent while your man wears that boyish, intent, concentrating look while giving your quim that warm and full feeling better than your favourite soap opera?? Maybe not. You can't please all of the people all of the time. You same sex  couples feel free to draw parralels and paraphrase my experiences for your own purposes. We are all human and a few of these words with a little adjustment may suit  your needs too.








Lucylastic -> RE: Subspace..... (3/18/2008 6:37:26 AM)

Elvgryn, I just have to applaud your post:)[sm=applause.gif]
Lucy




Kirren -> RE: Subspace..... (3/18/2008 6:43:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Evlgryn

Gentlemen, and Ladies:

Research says there is a G-spot, the gutteral sound my slave makes when my cock is hitting a certain angle says there is a G-spot. Still people doubt.

Remember, a womans vagina is not a hole...neither is it all things to all men. A womans anatomy, more than a mans is tied to her mood, her head and who and under what circumstances she is interacting with.

Sure you can poke her and prod her and conclude with scientific certainty that there is no G-spot. But that is the equivalent of a doctor reaching into a mans pants grabbing his member roughly and concluding that all we have wrapped in our boxers is a flacid pink worm. Yes,  the random grabbing  resembles  scientific method. It might  be objective and it is (the gold standard of experimental method)...reproducable. But it is totally wrong. A man's cock should not be judged in the rough hands of scientists; but in the moment of engorged purple splendor while being carressed by the women who love us. Cold gusts of artic air and calloused uncaring hands do not bring out the best in anyone.

THE TRUTH IS THE Gspot can't be "FOUND".   

You can't jump on it with both feet , plant a flag on it and claim it for god and country.  You must seduce, it caress it....convince it to come out and play.  Like an erection it is not just a body part...it is a condition of that body part that is brought about by arousal and the interaction of physical and mental stimulus..  The complexity of  female human arousal  has more than defied medical science, for centuries.  She sticks out her clit at medical science like a pink tongue: as much as to say "NYAH NYAH you will never figure us out". But some things we know and can count on. You must hold and carress the whole woman. body and soul (some you should grab and whip...with luck they will let you know which kind they are), if you don't have all of them...you don't have any of them.    

While you are sliding your fingers or cock  or dildo or whatever you both like best, in and out of that queen of all  orifices...you may notice a change in her rythms...breathing...the sounds of her groans. You may not. While slipping two fingers into her pussy in the old "come hither" gesture  you may notice the spongey flesh between your finger tips and the back of her pubic bone  become more swolen...you may not. Some men never notice any swelling or pulsing of blood and  reddening of the lips of the vagina. They may not notice the blush across the breasts and throat that comes with orgasm. These men are either just not paying attention or maybe "She's just not that into you". Neither condition precludes the existence of the Gspot.

The Kinsey studies were published saying the clit was the source of virtually all female orgasms... because their method was fatally flawed. They tested for sensitivity with an instrument the size of a Qtip. You don't have to be a "size queen" to know nothing the size of a Qtip pushed in and out of the vagina is going to make the average american woman cum.. It just ain't gonna happen. So they never saw vaginal  (or god forbid anal) orgasms.  And their personal sexual experience must have been so lacking or their egos so great, that they couldn't see how wrong they were.

A few things I know to be so.   In an intimate and satisfying relationship with a man a womans body learns to anticipate things....starts the ball rolling with lubrication and blood flow and swelling of the nipples,  labia ,the walls of the vagina, and yes the G-spot. With time her body  learns the ways and rythms of responding to her man by becoming more receptive in a number of ways. Give the Gspot a chance...some of them are shy and slow to make an appearance. Don't beat on it like a castle gate barring your entrance. Slide by it around it , just ignore it some of the time. One fine spring day, you may be just passing  by it (with the head of your cock). And you might hear a new sound from your woman a deeper sound. THEN ,  you will know you are onto something.

Also ....some women flow and squirt. Some to the point of soaking the sheets...some to the point where it squirts out almost like urine. I know, I have polaroids (I am a kinkster what can I say). But it does not taste or smell to my senses like Urine it is almost tasteless I read once it is closer to a man's precum..

I also know if you listen to the brand new research and enthusiasticly manipulate that spongey spot they describe... you will not "stick in your thumb and pull out a plumb". She will likely tell you to stop it makes her feel like she has to pee.  Such is life.  So go slow and don't put all your eggs in one basket. Which is to say on't be so intent on the G-spot that you forget to whip her and pull her hair.

The first time a woman looked up at me during an intimate clench and asked me if I was a sadist I was 19 and it was not in response to anything sadistic. I had read that pressing the heal of your hand at the base of a womans spine would stimulate a nerve cluster to help her reach orgasm. It may well be true, I think I have seen it with other women...but to this woman it just feel like I was trying to poke her in a painful manner.  Since then I have had a profound distrust of book learning translating to the bedroom. Victorian porn knew all about female ejaculation...it is full of descriptions of women "spending". How did these guys forget??
"
My final words of wisdom children; lighten up. Don't forget the joys of what we used to call  "third base". Any time spent deep in a warm responsive pussy is a good time. And you ladies....isn't any time spent while your man wears that boyish, intent, concentrating look while giving your quim that warm and full feeling better than your favourite soap opera?? Maybe not. You can't please all of the people all of the time. You same sex  couples feel free to draw parralels and paraphrase my experiences for your own purposes. We are all human and a few of these words with a little adjustment may suit  your needs too.









-claps-


YAY!

Some direction for the illiterate in the crowd that cant realize that its there...they just havent taken the time to find it.

I think you should teach classes...if men knew how to find it....and actually had the patience to find it....and actually used the knowledge to think about some one other than themselves when it came to sex...women wouldnt throw rocks at them any more....and they may be able to move out of their mothers basements.




cjan -> RE: Subspace..... (3/18/2008 11:27:36 AM)

quote:



Kirren


Some direction for the illiterate in the crowd that cant realize that its there...they just havent taken the time to find it.

I think you should teach classes...if men knew how to find it....and actually had the patience to find it....and actually used the knowledge to think about some one other than themselves when it came to sex...women wouldnt throw rocks at them any more....and they may be able to move out of their mothers basements.


Kind of a large generalization, referring to all men, don'tcha think?

I know better than to "fuck" with a premenstrual sadist on a rainy day. I'm just saying...




Kirren -> RE: Subspace..... (3/18/2008 2:03:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cjan

quote:



Kirren


Some direction for the illiterate in the crowd that cant realize that its there...they just havent taken the time to find it.

I think you should teach classes...if men knew how to find it....and actually had the patience to find it....and actually used the knowledge to think about some one other than themselves when it came to sex...women wouldnt throw rocks at them any more....and they may be able to move out of their mothers basements.


Kind of a large generalization, referring to all men, don'tcha think?

I know better than to "fuck" with a premenstrual sadist on a rainy day. I'm just saying...




LMAO...okay not ALL....Just the narrow minded cave men.


Is that better?




petpete -> RE: Subspace..... (3/19/2008 1:16:48 AM)

Guess what guys.... Kirren has been insulted cause i told her to spend her money wisely...hahahahahahahahahah




Kirren -> RE: Subspace..... (3/19/2008 4:14:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: petpete

Guess what guys.... Kirren has been insulted cause i told her to spend her money wisely...hahahahahahahahahah


And this is why I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man....

Move along pete...everyone else has.




ponyboyachilles -> RE: Subspace..... (3/24/2008 9:27:47 AM)

In all my kinky play my ultimate goal is to experience subspace (when doing ponyplay, the equivalent is ponyspace).  To me it is the feeling of being totally in the moment, in whatever mental space my Mistress sees fit to maintain.  If I'm in pony tack I'm often bit-gagged and wearing blinders (which can also be velcroed together over my eyes as a full blindfold) and also with hands in mittens locked behind or in an armbinder, so I cannot speak or see or grasp, but only experience what I'm permitted by the use of my available senses.  When in this state if I am made to walk or trot and turn and respond to commands instantly or feel the whip, She can easily make my mind such a blank with Her expert control that I am reduced to a set of responses to stimuli, without conscious thought or any feeling other than that I am this creature that is subservient to the commands of another.  The subspace equivalent is when I am so tightly and strictly bound that I not only cannot move anything but am unable to conceive of escaping or even to beg for release (for me this also usually involves gag, blindfold, hood, or some combination), then am stimulated sexually or sensually so that as when in ponyspace, I am reduced to nothing more than a quivering mass of feelings in response to stimuli, whether they be CBT, flogging, or more direct activities.  The endorphins kick in to produce a heightened sense of every small stimulation, while conscious thought is left behind.  Responsibility and choice are stripped away.  I presume it is different for everyone, but hopefully just as intense and (looking back afterward) just as enjoyable.




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