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Twitch23 -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 6:32:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

Who said anyone needed to change themselves for any reason? But, as you call women a "piece of ass", maybe you need to rethink that.


Thanks for the advice, but I think better on my own and for myself.

To answer your question, I stated that one needs to be "who one is, what one is and desire that which one desires" IOW be oneself  and be confidant in it. If that be wrong the converse must be true.

TBQH I think this applies, not only to Dom/me sub relationships, but ANY. And the more one intends to invest in said relationship, the more it behooves one to do so.

To be honest though, I don't understand why ANYONE cares what others think of them, thier activities, preferences. I've said it elsewhere, I'll say it here, those who mind don't matter, and those who matter, won't mind.



RedMagic1 -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 7:14:26 AM)

I prefer women of the three-dimensional variety.  I'm just kinky and perverted that way.



softness -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 7:40:05 AM)

I think age is an issue to do with personality ... the older I get the more experiences I have and the more my personality grows ... I am still th same person  I was a year ago, but a person that has grown and become more experienced and I hope mroe interesting and engaging.

As I have said on another thread today, the first thing for me in any connection with a Dominant is that i find their personality and intellect attractive ... that is much more likely to happen  FOR ME with someone who is older, more life experienced and more BDSM experienced (notice I separate those two things out) .. I doubt that I am the only sub/slave on here who needs to connect t the perosnality first.

That is not to say that because you are in your early 20s you do not have an attractive and engaging perosnality, but you are a young man playing in a - largely - older man's field ...

You have two basic options ... refuse to accept that your age will be a factor for potential sub/slaves and let it become an issue that impacts on every conversation (this will display the immaturity that people expect to come from a young "Master" and they can nod their heads and agree they were right to judge you for your age)

or you can accept that people will judge you on your age (just as subs/slaves are judged on theirs) and understand that you have to demonstrate your suitability to be considered as a "Master" by your actions not your age ... make sure that all of your actions show you to be a Master ... and you will be one ... its not enough to say you are something ... you must SHOW you are that something ,,, that is what really counts.



Matadorr -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 7:45:34 AM)

Dude, if ur categorising urself by what other people think, or asking for affirmation or validation of ur 'mastership' or competancy...ur not being a master. This THREAD is unmasterly, cose at the end of the day this is about PERSONAL strength, which comes completley from within...why would anyones opinion on you, concern or affirm anything ?

You either know who you are, or you dont. 

People talk about how u cant be a young master all the time, self proclaimed judgements, based on what? Well the good news is all their judgements do is define themselves, and THEIR own reality, when as a master you need to find your OWN life, reality and perception NOT based on judgement, but rather on strength. Then who is to question you? to tell you of experience...many hav experience and not the self-belief and knowledge to even act on it.

Let THEM batttle it out in their own head or on a message board and simply rise above it as you rise above everything, you want to FLOAT accross the lake, not paddle desperatley to tread water....take a biigger perspective on things.

I dont need to ask, cose I KNOW how I compare to a man twice my age, and it doesnt intimidate me in the least.



ThornTheEternal -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 9:57:35 AM)





I am overwhelemed that so many people take the time to actually answer my question, so thank you all. As far as questions that people ask me in return if you truely want an answer, please email it to me on CM.

I only ask because there are days at a time when I can only log on for a few moments and email is easier to check than a forum question. Again Thank you all. Sincerly Thorn.





ThornTheEternal -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 10:03:34 AM)




also on a closing note this thread was for advice, those of you who question why I changed things on others opinions is simple, I changed what I agreed needed to be changed, and I don't find myself asking peoples opinions on if I am Dominate, or not. No I will not be polite 24/7, yes I will take all advice into concideration cause I do know that people in life will always give advice from what they learn, as far as the clown who said this is not a Masterly Thread let me ask you something do you not find asking questions and taking advice Masterly? Is this not how we learn in life? Experience is a great gift that young people cannot have when they begin, no it comes with time, but anyone can ask questions and take advice and if you are strong enough to ask those questions and take that advice it means you are truely Master of yourself for you are willing to be patient and learn. Sicnerly Thorn.





laurell3 -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 10:51:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ThornTheEternal




also on a closing note this thread was for advice, those of you who question why I changed things on others opinions is simple, I changed what I agreed needed to be changed, and I don't find myself asking peoples opinions on if I am Dominate, or not. No I will not be polite 24/7, yes I will take all advice into concideration cause I do know that people in life will always give advice from what they learn, as far as the clown who said this is not a Masterly Thread let me ask you something do you not find asking questions and taking advice Masterly? Is this not how we learn in life? Experience is a great gift that young people cannot have when they begin, no it comes with time, but anyone can ask questions and take advice and if you are strong enough to ask those questions and take that advice it means you are truely Master of yourself for you are willing to be patient and learn. Sicnerly Thorn.





[sm=applause.gif]  I think you will find a dedicated sub/slave or whatever you desire if you follow this line of thinking.  Human beings that are realistic and truly seek to have a working relationship respond well to other human beings, not roles or dogma.



ThornTheEternal -> Why do (2/4/2008 4:42:42 PM)




Silly question but thought I would ask any ways since I am always curious, why do owned or collared or how ever they want to be labelled subs/slaves not hide there profiles I mean nothing is more annoying than seeing someone you would like to get to know better just to have there profile read at the bottom "sorry i'm collared, owned etc." again just a question for a curious mind.





RedMagic1 -> RE: Why do (2/4/2008 4:56:16 PM)

Best to start a new thread with that question in the "Ask a Sub/Slave" area.



AquaticSub -> RE: Why do (2/4/2008 5:21:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThornTheEternal




Silly question but thought I would ask any ways since I am always curious, why do owned or collared or how ever they want to be labelled subs/slaves not hide there profiles I mean nothing is more annoying than seeing someone you would like to get to know better just to have there profile read at the bottom "sorry i'm collared, owned etc." again just a question for a curious mind.





Why should they hide their profiles? This isn't just a personals site, it's also a site to make friends - as we see by the nifty little box marked "Just friends". When we weren't looking for anyone, I didn't see a point in hiding my profile for sake of someone else. I simply had "just friends" marked so if my profile came up, it was because someone was searching for "just friends" as well as anything else they checked.



ThornTheEternal -> RE: Why do (2/4/2008 5:41:54 PM)




Thank you AquaticSub, as I said it was just something I was curious about forgive me if a offended you in anyway. Sincerly Thorn.





AquaticSub -> RE: Why do (2/4/2008 5:47:04 PM)

It's no biggie. It just doesn't make sense to me that anyone owned should have to hide their profiles just because they are owned, something I've heard from other people as well. Assuming they only have the accurate boxes checked, it's not a problem - you won't pull them up unless you check those boxes too.

Now, I can understand being frustrated with people who haven't checked the right boxes so their profiles still come up.



takenbyjohnr07 -> RE: Why do (2/4/2008 6:54:00 PM)

Mine started with i am taken, etc etc, because i agree with you. i think it might be nice if there was a way to be able to tell if someone was looking or not. Maybe an avitar or a different font of their screen name to name just a couple. i don't know if that can be done though.



Matadorr -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 7:28:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

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ORIGINAL: ThornTheEternal

also on a closing note this thread was for advice, those of you who question why I changed things on others opinions is simple, I changed what I agreed needed to be changed, and I don't find myself asking peoples opinions on if I am Dominate, or not. No I will not be polite 24/7, yes I will take all advice into concideration cause I do know that people in life will always give advice from what they learn, as far as the clown who said this is not a Masterly Thread let me ask you something do you not find asking questions and taking advice Masterly? Is this not how we learn in life? Experience is a great gift that young people cannot have when they begin, no it comes with time, but anyone can ask questions and take advice and if you are strong enough to ask those questions and take that advice it means you are truely Master of yourself for you are willing to be patient and learn. Sicnerly Thorn.



Im not a clown, and you might notice that u simply focused on that comment and negated the rest of my post.

Ur not taking advice here, your questioning your own ability to be a dom based on other peoples judgements. I then proceeded to give you real advice on what will help you be more confident and serlf assured, and you proceeded to call me an idiot...while similtaneously saying you are open minded to all advice to help you become a better 'dom'. Noone can teach you self belief, or allow your masculine side to come out...everything about being a 'dom' comes from within and is shaped by who you are, your values, life experiences and wants/needs...theres no 'technique' or 'right way'...its just 'being urself' and 'being a man' and if ur doing that, without compromise...than your doing it right. If ur clouding urself with self judgement, self questioning, over analysing, or have self-limiting beliefs , or feel a need for vaildation from others, or dont like the person you are and the life you live...yeah ur doing it wrong cose ur not being urself.

This thread = validation from others.




laurell3 -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 7:38:37 PM)


The "natural Dom" line of thinking is silly fantasy.  We are human beings.  We learn by doing, we learn by asking, we sometimes learn by falling down.  Relationships are not intuitively learned and yes, there is great value in learning from others.  Asking for advice is not self-doubt, especially in the context of asking profile information from none other than those one is seeking, subs. Guess what?  I'm guessing he's getting some hints and interest from women merely from being here, being a real human being, being open to conversation and showing this side of him that says I will grow with you and not against you.  I would bet you are not as much with your approach.  We aren't live stock, we are women and men and people before roles.  We do not fit in cookie cutter fantasy models.



sexyred1 -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 8:02:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Matadorr

This thread = validation from others.




Actually, I don't think so. I think he was very mature in asking the original question. It is far more mature to ask questions than to assume you know everything, is it not?

Confidence is one thing and everyone finds confidence attractive. Arrogance is not the same thing and it is easily discerned.



Matadorr -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 8:39:33 PM)

Whatever, you can incinuate that im arrogrant all you like, it doesnt bother me.  To the other guy who claims we learn by doing, and knowledge...I never said you cant learn about things, but this thread was a thread about his competency and his ability to be a dom due to age, thats not a skill...thats asking for others opinions about himself.

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ORIGINAL: laurell3


The "natural Dom" line of thinking is silly fantasy.  We are human beings.  We learn by doing, we learn by asking, we sometimes learn by falling down.  Relationships are not intuitively learned and yes, there is great value in learning from others.  Asking for advice is not self-doubt, especially in the context of asking profile information from none other than those one is seeking, subs. Guess what?  I'm guessing he's getting some hints and interest from women merely from being here, being a real human being, being open to conversation and showing this side of him that says I will grow with you and not against you.  I would bet you are not as much with your approach.  We aren't live stock, we are women and men and people before roles.  We do not fit in cookie cutter fantasy models.


But judging from your statement, knowledge is the source of all power. So therefore somone who  knows alot about BDSM is instantly the greatest dom alive am I correct?  Exactly...thats not what u were saying...its about balance like everything else, and u decontextualised my post to frame it as inbalanced as I just did yours. Dont make things black and white when comeone expesses an opinion.

Natural dom, is not a silly fantasy. Every MAN and WOMAN, has a strong self, a confident beautifull, powerful self, and not everyone lets that out, and lets it manifest as it should, whatever that form takes for each individual. A man who is DOM inside himself, and knows it...needs to let that out and show it...some can do this easily and they r 'naturals' or they effect women sexually in a dominant manner easily. If you think that cant exist, id like to know on what solid evidence.



Matadorr -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 8:50:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Matadorr

Whatever, you can incinuate that im arrogrant all you like, it doesnt bother me.  To the other guy who claims we learn by doing, and knowledge...I never said you cant learn about things, but this thread was a thread about his competency and his ability to be a dom due to age, thats not a skill...thats asking for others opinions about himself.

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3


The "natural Dom" line of thinking is silly fantasy.  We are human beings.  We learn by doing, we learn by asking, we sometimes learn by falling down.  Relationships are not intuitively learned and yes, there is great value in learning from others.  Asking for advice is not self-doubt, especially in the context of asking profile information from none other than those one is seeking, subs. Guess what?  I'm guessing he's getting some hints and interest from women merely from being here, being a real human being, being open to conversation and showing this side of him that says I will grow with you and not against you.  I would bet you are not as much with your approach.  We aren't live stock, we are women and men and people before roles.  We do not fit in cookie cutter fantasy models.


But judging from your statement, knowledge is the source of all power. So therefore somone who  knows alot about BDSM is instantly the greatest dom alive am I correct?  Exactly...thats not what u were saying...its about balance like everything else, and u decontextualised my post to frame it as inbalanced as I just did yours. Dont make things black and white when comeone expesses an opinion.

Natural dom, is not a silly fantasy. Every MAN and WOMAN, has a strong self, a confident beautifull, powerful self, and not everyone lets that out, and lets it manifest as it should, whatever that form takes for each individual. A man who is DOM inside himself, and knows it...needs to let that out and show it...some can do this easily and they r 'naturals' or they effect women sexually in a dominant manner easily. If you think that cant exist, id like to know on what solid evidence.

If I wanted to become a great baseball player, would I ask 'do u think im too young to become a great baseball player?' ...would that show the drive, motivation and self belief of a champion? Or would I ask 'how can I become a better baseball player...because I know I want to become great'. BAlance. Self belief + constant learning. I never said it was a choice of extremes, I simply said this thread is about other peoples opinion on him and his ability, when his opinion is the only one that matters.




Matadorr -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 8:53:51 PM)

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RedMagic1 -> RE: Young Masters (2/4/2008 10:10:30 PM)

Dude.  I've had at least six women message me in the last 48 hours because of things I have posted on these message boards.  All were positive contacts, thanking me, etc.  One said that I was making her wet, and was now on her short list.  Now that's a higher number than usual -- but I've been posting more than usual.  And it's not just me.  There's a Dom about your age whose current real-life sub contacted him because of posts he had made on this message board.  He's still a regular here.

Meanwhile, you're getting women telling you that you are arrogant and immature.  Results speak for themselves.



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