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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 7:28:29 PM   
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i've heard the term micromanagement used to describe the same as you are describing here; i have also talked with some people who's Lifestyle is TPE and T/they describe it much as you have. Through talking with O/others on various sites around the net, i've learned that what you describe is difficult to find and for some reason there is a low opinion of it. i don't understand the reason for that, unless you want to call it "women's lib" or something of the sorts. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to designate roles and responsibilities in the Lifestyle; it's all a matter of individual choice and what the Dom and sub in the relationship agree upon. The terms "micromanagement" or "TPE" are just general labels; you don't have to conform exactly to their guidelines - and don't let A/anybody tell you that you are wrong or not real if you refuse to conform to T/their ideas.

Just out of curiousity .... how did you come to prefer this type of relationship ... micromanagement? Does it have something to do with the way you were raised - maybe in a male head of household family where your father made all the decisions while your mother cooked, cleaned, and took care of the family? Are you (as the general census thinks, if i'm not misreading) simply a spoiled Barbie doll type? Or maybe you've had something happen in your life - something you feel that you really screwed up, and now you don't trust yourself to make good decisions? Just curious because these are some of the reasons i've heard from other subs/slaves who prefer to be micromanaged.

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 7:28:57 PM   
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Micromangement is a strange thing-it makes slave of two people-not just one.


Not necessarily.

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 7:43:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Micromangement is a strange thing-it makes slave of two people-not just one.


It sounds like a tedious waste of energy to me.



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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 7:49:03 PM   
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Well that all depends on how you look at it. If its something that you find interesting then it would not be. Anything you enjoy is not a waste of energy.

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 8:08:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist
Micromangement is a strange thing-it makes slave of two people-not just one.


Really?  And you know this how? 

Micromanagement is quite a hot thing to be part of ... all my boys have some element of micromanagement in their lifestyles with me...it's what I enjoy and what they love. 

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 8:49:32 PM   
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How can there be 'some element' of total obsession with every detail?

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 8:58:47 PM   
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Out of curiosity, is this micromanagement thing/fetish limited to scenes with a definite start/stop times? 

Kinda makes a differernce if its limtited to scenes or not.

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 9:06:58 PM   
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from what i have seen micrmanagement tends to occur is TPE 24/7 relationships more then in a scene with a start and stop point.

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 9:27:19 PM   
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Are we talking like the master has to literally brush the slaves teeth for her and paint the toes for her to get exactly right?

Cuz that really does mean someone is well off financially and doesn't need to have a life outside the house.

But most doms have a few areas they micromanage and others they delegate off (that's still what you define as TPE).  A few doms really DO micromanage down to the last details, but that's just their kink.

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 11:24:16 PM   
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It can not really only occur at sessions,,,or it really would not be micromanagment



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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/3/2008 11:43:40 PM   
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Micromanagement is the only term I've ever heard used for it, and in my experience tends to be far into the power exchange. My only experience with micromanagement was in being told what to do and when to do it, how to dress for this or that, I never actually had anything done for me. On the contrary I was made to draw up my own planner and jot in it all the directions I was given.
I like to please but in that context on a day-to-day basis I found it a bit tedious for my tastes.

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/6/2008 3:59:19 AM   
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It's called Micromanagement, and for many it's the ultimate high or extreme of TPE M/s relationships.  It requires a lot more of a Masters time, thought and engery on their end.   Many people find "Micromanagement" to be a dirty word, and many people are simply not cut out to manage or be managed in this fashion.   Personally, I've always loved it for training!/  Dare I admit it openly in public, it gives me fuzzy feeling.  The trick is get into a routine and daily ritual when doing it.   I've never been in a 24/7 relationship with somebody who Loved, craved or enjoyed it for prolong periods of time. 

Dare I admit it, it would be interesting at working at it in a 24/7 TPE relationship!  It's part of my darker side I have not fully lived out, yet often gravitate towards and have to keep in check at times. 

I tend to take as much control as one can submit to me.  Submission is a somewhat relative term for me.   Different levels of submission based on the level of power exchanged.  I've yet to be with anybody who craves and was willing to be fully micromanaged.   Tempting thoughts for this morning.

There has been times, when I was not prepared for micromanagement games in past relationships.  Where if I had been, I perhaps would not have been so annoyed.  Basically, if it had become a routine it probally would have went over smoothly with me.   Having somebody interupt me to make a small decision for them, when I was in the middle of something else, not prepared nor even thinking about dealing with it, was bothersome.    Hence why I call it play the Micromanagement game, where if I have not been responsible for making a decision or choice over something 80-90% of the time.  Don't expect me to magically suprise me with it when I'm in the middle of some matter more important at the time.    I suspect this is in part where many Dom/Masters have a problem with this.   Just a matter of getting into an establish routine and set level of power exchange.

Many sub/slave enjoy having smaller levels of control over themselves in a M/s relationship.  However, getting a routine set in stone about when to brush your teeth, take a bath, and when to do what actually might free up more time compared to consuming it.   Plus it gives more of sense of order in life.  Plus, having control over somebody else diet makes people more aware of eating better foods.   People often eat all kinds of crap without regards to thier own health, if one has the power over anothers diet, it might make them be more aware of how their own choices.   So, I'll toss this thought out there for everybody to eat up.  

I know I'm at risk of taking some heat by other people on the message board, but Micromanagement does have it's Pro's as well as Con's. 

Mentally, it also reinforces the TPE dynamic and can keep it in check and test it.   Yeah, Yeah, Yeah... see somebody make a post about it being "Barbie Doll Syndrome".   I'm sitting here laughing about the fact, I came up with an tatoo branding concept for a set of "Barbie Doll" Tattoo's... awhile back.  Some slave girl in the UK was looking for humilation branding Tattoo's.   My idea involved a set of tattoo's as follows..    1. Matel Logo   2. Barbie Logo   3. UPC bar code   4. For Ages 18+   5. Type of Barbie
(Slave Barbie, Slut Barbie, Bondage Barbie, or something similar).   6. Price of Barbie..

You can read my post here:  http://www.collarchat.com/m_1009839/mpage_4/key_/tm.htm#1017429

Damn it, I knew there was something to this tattoo concept I came up with.   I appear to be suffering from "Barbie Doll Syndrome", crap I wonder how long before there's cure.  Perhaps this can't be cured, I guess I'm screwed and have to live with my twisted up kinks and BDSM mindset.

Hope nobody is spewing their morning cup of coffee on their monitors this morning reading this post.

Micromanage is something I have re-explored in introspection this last year afer this thread... 
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=1000693

Anways, my thoughts on micromanagement and Barbie Dolls at the moment. 



                

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/6/2008 4:20:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Micromangement is a strange thing-it makes slave of two people-not just one.


Basically, though.. that's applies to all forms/kinds of relationships, just not a micromanagement issue.

Hell partial power exchange D/s relationship require time and engery for both people.  Doms become a slave in a strange way as much as subs become a slave to the Dom.  It's a commitment.   However, micromanagement in many ways if done properly and there is a routine and ritual established, just might in fact save time, reinforce the D/s relationship and be a good thing.   Along with power comes awareness of things.   How many Guys do you know, know much about cosmetics, womens clothing, various hair styles, and blah blah blah...  How many people are consious about the food they eat.   Would not somebody having control over these things make them more aware and consious of the opposite sex, as well as the welfare and health of another person.   So many things people take for granted.   It basically pulls a person from outside themselves and makes them focus upon somebody else besides themselves for awhile.   This could be a great thing, if you actually give it some thought.   It could be very bad, if micromanagement is not properly done.   Micromanagement good verses. Micromanagement bad.   Just some food for thought today.  

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/6/2008 4:23:03 AM   
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Another term for "micromanagement fetish"?....

sure.......

"Democrat" :)

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/6/2008 4:25:55 AM   
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I think it's just called Micro-management. You just happen to like it to a slightly higher than usual degree.

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RE: A micromanagement fetish...is there a name for this? - 2/6/2008 4:27:29 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Are we talking like the master has to literally brush the slaves teeth for her and paint the toes for her to get exactly right?

Cuz that really does mean someone is well off financially and doesn't need to have a life outside the house.

But most doms have a few areas they micromanage and others they delegate off (that's still what you define as TPE).  A few doms really DO micromanage down to the last details, but that's just their kink.


God bless 'em if they can run TWO complete lives successfully. I prefer to see myself as a shepherd, as opposed to a human wheelchair.

< Message edited by DS4DUMMIES -- 2/6/2008 4:30:16 AM >


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