sub4sub123 -> RE: Info on SM (2/6/2008 1:10:34 AM)
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Cherry, look up Psychological Dimensions of Masochistic Surrender by Dorothy Hayden, CSW, CAC © It will explain a lot. Current pyschologist also share your view - What is your gender? Female
- What is your sexual orientation? I consider myself straight, but my partner tells me I am bi-sexual.
- Do you identify as a Sadist, Masochist or both? More Masochist than Sadist, but every few months I have this urge to be in control.
- Age group 21-30, 31-40, 41-50, 51-60 or 61+
21-30 - Our text book states that a dysfunctional past can cause a person to practice SM such as abuse or overbearing parents. Did you have a dysfunctional past and if so do you think it caused you to engage in S&M? First, I would like to mention that there are just as many if not more people engaged in vanillia relationships that have been abused than in S&M. My past was a little dysfunctional, not so much as some of the people I know in vanillia relationships, but I feel that SM has helpe me to overcome these issues. I went to counseling for years, and nothing helped. Then when I found this, I gained stregnth. I feel the role-play involved help me to deal with issues that I could not deal with in counseling. It is sort of like rising from the ashes, and finding control in your life,when prior there was no control. I always tell my partner that our relationship is so good because our weaknesses match.
- In our group, we discussed various types of play and some types of play we found acceptable while other types seemed abnormal. Do you feel that some types are abnormal (eg. gun play) while others are not? There are hard limits, that I find totally unacceptable. I am not hardcore, I don't like to be choked, I no longer fantisize about rape (guess I don't need to anymore) I dispise pedifiles, and people that subject things on unsepecting victims. Guns scare me. Just being in the presence of one (probably because I know nothing about them) I think that it has to do with what your kinks are. Most of the people that are involved in this are very intelligent and powerful people who like to express things differently. My friend and I were talking about this and she has a BA in Psychology, I talk to her about everything. She said that the further that people go in their education the more open they are to different sexual experiences from what she learned in her human sexuality course.
- We discussed safety aspects in our group, what sort of safety measures do you have in place so as not to cause harm to another person?
Safe sex is essential, my partner and I make sure that protection is used with another person if it is in the equation, there are safe words- and the most powerful saftey aspect is that I have the power to walk away when ever I want. Most of the restraints are lose so that if I need to get out I can. - Why do you feel you engage in S&M?
I feel that all great people have submitted. It is an internal urge, most religions preach to submit to some sort of god to reach the rewards in heaven. By committment, and submission, all things are earned. It is the act of being selfless, trying to reach perfection. Every great person that ever lived started by submitting, hard work, integrety, honesty and learning the importance of valuing what they accomplish without recognition from others. I am applying to law school in Oct of this year, and I feel that the committment and dedication I am and have learned is an essential componet to my sucess and completion of my goals. Out of all the people in my family I am the first to go to college, and that in itself is an accomplishment. I feel that the discipline I have learned through this experience is the reason for my sucess. - Do you feel that S&M is an abnormal practice? Why or why not?
I guess it really depends on how far it goes. If it interfers with your soical contacts, or your ability to have an occupation then yes. If you take it to the point that someone is severly harmed and requires medical attention, the yes. If not, then no. With me, no, I do not have any of those problems. - Have you sought professional help regarding your involvement in S&M or thought about seeking help? Why or why not?
Prior to my involvemnet I sought professional help, but when I discovered my likes and dislikes, and it helped me work through things, the thearipist I was seeing stated that she didn't know what happened but that my pyschological state started making drastic improvements. Eventually, she asked about my sex-life, and she stated the rules above, as long as it is not interfering with interpersonal relations, or professional practices, and no one is harmed then it could not be considered abnormal practices. - I want to see things through the eyes of someone who practices S&M, if you could give me one piece of information to help me understand you what would that be? Eleanor Roosevelt said "no one can make you feel inferior without your consent". I feel that I am in so much more control by being able to chose when I want to feel inferior than having that choice taken away from me. Also, when I enjoy it, I no longer fear it. Humiliation is the quickest way to intimidate someone, when you enjoy humiliation, you are no longer intimidated by the humilitation, it becomes a thrill and a new power within yourself. You begin to recogize the difference, and when you do, you have the abilty to turn the situation around. It helps with congitive illussions which is a very powerful skill in the area of law. If you can successfully communicate without feeling intimidated, you are confident in yourself, and you can stay calm when others would get upset, these are the keys to great mediations and trials. Most religions preach some sort of self sacrafice, and it is self sacrafice that enables you to grow within yourself.
- Last question---thoughts, feelings or any information I did not cover that should be included?
The education and income levels of SM people in the professional world. You will find that many of us are educated, and encourage others to get an education, that we are sucessful, and admirred by those around us that have no knowledge of what our fetishes are. Also, it should be noted that not all forms of SM are sexual in nature. It doesn't always start out that way, and in most cases, it is held back, until the reward is established and it is finally allowed to be released. I see this as an area of growth it would be interesting to find out the before and after effects and influences of lifestyle.
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