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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 11:44:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		The other thing to remeber here is that everyone is damaged goods to some degree.  To some it might be a hard limit.  You certainly have hard limits.  Consider the quality of goods of fools talking in public like that.   They seem to be faulty goods. Damage implies being worse than before.  If a man goes bald, he is damaged(in some eyes).  If a man is stupid he just is that way.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 11:53:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		The term 'damaged goods' is meaningless, but, in all honesty, a single mother isn't on the agenda of some men. 'All a matter of personal taste.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 11:56:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I wouldn't give a flying duck's fuck about two dickheads sitting on the bus. For all you know, they can't date anybody because they have halitosis. Or impotence. Or both.

Fuck them. Or more to the point... don't  .



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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 11:58:09 AM   
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ok, so i'm sat on the bus heading for school and there's two fellas sat behind me and i can hear them talking over my earphones.  they were discussing single mothers.  i wasn't listening intentionally, but when i heard what they were saying, i couldn't help it.

they were saying how they would never date a single mother because they were damaged goods.  all they were good for was a casual quicky and if they were dumb enough to get pregnant in the first place, it was their own fault.  they were generally ugly women, overweight and useless layabouts living off benefit.

ok, so i'm a single mum and i'm somewhat overweight.  yes, i receive benefit but i am looking for work if can get it.  whether or not i'm ugly depends on perspective.  so does that make me damaged goods?  is a casual quicky all i'm worth now?


I'd be glad that I didn't make those trogeldytes initial screening process, less work on my part where they are concerned.

Everybody is comsidered "damaged goods" by someone, either they got married too early or too late (or never at all), they had too many kids or not enough, they work too hard or don't work hard enough, etc...

I've never been told that I'm damaged good because of my children, I've been told that I'm damaged goods because I never got married to their fathers-- I tend to disagree, I might not have been as discerning about who I got pregnant by but I didn't compound the problem by marrying men who would make our lives more challenging.

anyway...

You know what you've done and why you made the decisions you did, as long as you feel you made the right choices then what does it matter that these two wouldn't date you (in my words the fact that they are so closed minded maked them a bit damaged).  There are men who don't feel that way, there are men who see the challenges of single parenting an asset as it tends to refine the parent.

There are men who will appreciate you part and parcel.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 12:17:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

The term 'damaged goods' is meaningless, but, in all honesty, a single mother isn't on the agenda of some men. 'All a matter of personal taste.


And such men will never be aptly called "motherfuckers." (Do we really "taste" different?)

The presumption is, however, that the existence of the child or children will necessarily carry an impact on the relationship. I don't know that that is always the case.

If that presumption is incorrect, maybe what "some" men want is a virgin.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 12:29:18 PM   
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There are idiots and assholes in the world.  You just met two of them.

In all probability, their weekly dates each have five sisters......




LMAO!!!  

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 12:31:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee
If that presumption is incorrect, maybe what "some" men want is a virgin.


Remembering back to my childhood, "damaged goods" referred to a woman who was no longer a virgin but was still unmarried. The implication was that a woman who didn't wait for marriage to become sexually active was a slut and tramp. Many times the only way to tell was by an unexpected pregnancy.

Nowadays the term covers a lot of conditions, including disabilities. Any woman who doesn't meet the criteria a man has set as his "ideal woman," and that lack is not genetic, is "damaged goods."

Just remember that to some men you meet their criteria exactly.


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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 12:48:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		2 guys sitting alone together on a bus?  sounds like they go home alone to no one.  at very least you go home to your loved one.  i would be more likely to take you seriously about choices.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 12:49:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't give a tinkers dam what theses assholes had to say, in fact probably the only sex they could manage would be in their very small minds,why are their so many single mothers raising children on their own?Because some jack ass man  left them behind to do so.....It makes me sick to think of all the men that left children behind to go on their merry way...I have two to wonderful step daughters that I raised from a wee age because their father just took off to sights unknowen..I am the only father that they have known and I wouldn't have it any other way..AS always just my two cents...bounty

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 12:51:50 PM   
kittinSol


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Status: offline 		If a guy has 'illegitimate' children, is he damaged goods also? After all, he is liable for them.

But I suspect these two unfortunate individuals on the bus probably never got their end away anyway.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 12:54:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

The term 'damaged goods' is meaningless, but, in all honesty, a single mother isn't on the agenda of some men. 'All a matter of personal taste.


And such men will never be aptly called "motherfuckers." (Do we really "taste" different?)

The presumption is, however, that the existence of the child or children will necessarily carry an impact on the relationship. I don't know that that is always the case.

If that presumption is incorrect, maybe what "some" men want is a virgin.


Yes, that is the presumption. Single mothers have a huge responsibility in their lives, which means a serious amount of time taken up.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 12:55:46 PM   
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Thanks for telling me!

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 2:17:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't mind single Moms as long as their U.M.'s aren't too young.
If dating them involves a babysitter then no thanks.
If their U.M.'s "are my universe" then what do they need me for?

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 2:22:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had three when I met HoneyMaster. If someone isn't interested because I have um's than, they would not be right for me anyway.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 2:31:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee

~makes a note~

Thanks for telling me!


No problem! Always glad to shed some light on the matter!

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 2:57:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just don't relate well to very young U.M.'s.
If they're 12-14 then it's fine because they don't want to be around adults at that age anyway.
"Hey kid, here's $20 bucks, go to the movies or something."


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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 3:27:11 PM   
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No you are not "damaged goods"
but
single motherhood is a very serious  problem with many phsychological social and economic problems in attendance. Thats what I think !


Actually I find this to be a huge generalized statement---in certain ages, certain ethnic brackets--yes-across the board---I disagree.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 3:28:32 PM   
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I wouldn't give a flying duck's fuck about two dickheads sitting on the bus. For all you know, they can't date anybody because they have halitosis. Or impotence. Or both.

Fuck them. Or more to the point... don't




That pretty much sums it up.

K

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 3:28:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ladyraven1

ok, so i'm sat on the bus heading for school and there's two fellas sat behind me and i can hear them talking over my earphones.  they were discussing single mothers.  i wasn't listening intentionally, but when i heard what they were saying, i couldn't help it.

they were saying how they would never date a single mother because they were damaged goods.  all they were good for was a casual quicky and if they were dumb enough to get pregnant in the first place, it was their own fault.  they were generally ugly women, overweight and useless layabouts living off benefit.

ok, so i'm a single mum and i'm somewhat overweight.  yes, i receive benefit but i am looking for work if can get it.  whether or not i'm ugly depends on perspective.  so does that make me damaged goods?  is a casual quicky all i'm worth now?


I don't think that single mothers are overweight or ugly or anything like that.  On the other hand I constantly tell my single brother to stay away from women with children - not because of any sort of character defect - but that I don't think its worth his time to have that burden.

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RE: Single Mums = Damaged Goods? - 2/5/2008 3:35:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		A few years ago, the Conservative party in England used single mothers as a tool for furthering their policy on destroying social benefits. Single mothers were demonised; all of society's ills were placed on these women's backs.

They're a vulnerable group, so they make perfect scapegoats, and they're an easy target for craptalk. That a couple of cunts have managed to destabilise the original poster's self-confidence by saying something stupid about single mothers is testimony to that.



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