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CNJDom -> Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/6/2008 3:03:03 AM)
I hear of this behavior where submissives or slaves (almost totally males) that feel the need or are expected to pay tribute in money or their paychecks to their Mistresses. Is this a benefit of being a Dominant where tribute is where tribute can be had, is it being some sort of ProDomme, or is it a fancy term for hooking with a whip? Is this a manifestation brought on by the submissive/slave population wherer it is an opprotunity to show devotion and such to their Mistress where they feel it is proper and viewed as a gift of submission gladly given? Does anyone hear of male Doms doing this behavior as well or is this mostly reserved for the FemDom population? I'd be interested to know everyone's opinion on this...

MsLadySue -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/6/2008 3:40:51 AM)
This question or variations of it come up often. If you do a search using the word tributes you will find lots of information to satisfy your curiousity.

CNJDom -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/6/2008 8:42:26 PM)
It isn't my curiosity on what tribute is, more than WHY...I don't ask or demand tribute from my subs nor have I ever, but it seems like it's a natural occurance within the FemDom scene. I don't feel that this sort of behavior has the merit that makes it a proper mode to operate in . I did a search of the word tribute here, and I wasn't impressed and couldn't find anything that gave it any validation unless you plan on this as a source of income...there may be a passion there, but in MY eyes not so much a passion for the lifestyle of BDSM but more such as a way to material gain. span.jajahWrapper { font-size:1em; color:#B11196; text-decoration:underline; } a.jajahLink { color:#000000; text-decoration:none; } span.jajahInLink:hover { background-color:#B11196; }

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/6/2008 8:43:48 PM)
It's just another form of service. It's like asking one would require their slave to cook.

AquaticSub -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/6/2008 8:48:29 PM)
It really doesn't bother me. We see relationships where vanilla girls insist that they are kept in a particular lifestyle and men, for whatever reason, are willing to do it. Not much difference. Money tributes aren't my cup of tea, but if it's someone else's and they can get their kink filled... go for it. Like LA says, just another form of service.

CuriousLord -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/6/2008 8:55:42 PM)
People rarely do things for one reason. A pro domme is likely to both like BDSM and money; she wants one or both badly enough to be a pro domme instead of using her time on other pursuits. I'm sure a lot of pro domme's out there are just doing it for the money with very little personal interest in BDSM. I'm sure a lot of them are very into BDSM and making extra money. I have a feeling that many of them are inclined towards BDSM and yet would act very differently if there wasn't profit involved. A lot of male slaves have a supply of money and a demand for sex/BDSM. A lot of women have a supply of sex/BDSM and a demand for money. Seems like a fair match.

CNJDom -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/6/2008 8:59:56 PM)
Y'all are very right: it is just another form of service. But I have to say that on a scale between male and female submissives, I would hazard a guess on the more conservative side that it's probably 100:1 ratio at best where male submissives out-weigh the female submissives in this form of service. Given the idea that there are "some" simularities between submissives on the whole (common denominator being that we are all human), seems sort of odd don't you think on those numbers on this slant?" span.jajahWrapper { font-size:1em; color:#B11196; text-decoration:underline; } a.jajahLink { color:#000000; text-decoration:none; } span.jajahInLink:hover { background-color:#B11196; }

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/6/2008 9:03:23 PM)
It makes perfect sense given the cultural atmosphere and cultural backlash in response to it. Ask how many women really like someone going down on them during their period- you'll probably get a lot closer to 100:1 than you will 100:100 also. Our cultural make up has a tremendous influence on how people in general relate to eachother and express themselves, even within individual relationships.

goddessAVA -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/6/2008 9:05:55 PM)
gummi candies-thats what I want, if only they would take payment for rent in that currency....what's with the obsession with pros, it is totally diff then here, check out maxfisch.com to confirm....yes it is about a mutual session or the Pro Domme would be out of business soon.

LadyLolly -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 12:25:54 AM)
I hear of this behavior where submissives or slaves (almost totally females) that feel the need or are expected to have sex, oral or anal or otherwise with their Masters. Is this a benefit of being a Dominant where sex is where sex can be had, is it being some sort of Cocksman, or is it a fancy term for Male Whore? Is this a manifestation brought on by the submissive/slave population where it is an opprotunity to show devotion and such to their Master where they feel it is proper and viewed as a gift of submission gladly given? Does anyone hear of female Dommes doing this behavior as well or is this mostly reserved for the Dom population? I'd be interested to know everyone's opinion on this... _____________________________ Women can get laid, even the not so attractive ones that are not interesting, wealthy or erhmmm tight "there". Men have always provided what women need because men want what women have - D's or S's. _____________________________ And before every jumps on my butt - just trying to make a point. I'm well aware not ALL men are about sex anymore than ALL women are about cash.

MsSaskia -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 1:30:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CuriousLord I'm sure a lot of pro domme's out there are just doing it for the money with very little personal interest in BDSM. I'm sure a lot of them are very into BDSM and making extra money. I have a feeling that many of them are inclined towards BDSM and yet would act very differently if there wasn't profit involved. I've gotten emails from tons of women over the years asking me to teach them how to be dominatrices. Nearly all of them that are blind emails mention the money first. A smaller number of them say they think it'd be fun. A much smaller percentage say they hate men and think it'd be great to earn money by hurting them. I've never taken anyone on from a blind email and I'm definitely not going to be starting now. If I went to the trouble to train someone that clueless, it'd be a complete waste of my time and they wouldn't be able to keep clients because it'd be absurdly obvious they were going through the motions. There are obviously women (and men) who go pro because they think the money's going to be really easy. They have no clue what they're getting into, but someone told them they look great in a fetish outfit and maybe offered them money to play, so suddenly they're pros. No training, no nothing. They don't last long at all. Every pro I know who's been around for longer than a year is in it because they're into it, and just about every pro I know is very much into this in their personal life, where finances aren't involved any more than they are in any other relationship. Even the ones who don't necessarily play with people other than clients have still dedicated all their resources, time and energy to doing what they love and are good at, and not everyone puts that kind of dedication into their chosen career.

Faeorie -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 1:53:38 AM)
Eh, I'd probably end up doing it for the money. Sounds awful doesn't it? But perhaps that's why I would never go pro and charge someone to dominate them. Though if there are any slaves or subs out there who want to be used as a personal bank account, I mean if you just crave it msg me please, I could sure use the help with bills, lol. Shhh, don't tell me such a sub doesn't exist, I have to keep my hopes up. ... Are there such things as submissive "sugar mommas/daddies"?

RedMagic1 -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 6:06:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Faeorie if there are any slaves or subs out there who want to be used as a personal bank account, I mean if you just crave it msg me please, I could sure use the help with bills, lol. It's a kink called "financial slavery." Advertising for it is prohibited on this site. Also, a money domme who used to post here was recently outed. She lost her web business and who knows what else. You could Google "Goddess Mine" and there is also a thread in the archives here about it. She was married, worked as a school teacher, and moneydommed on the side. But hey, you already know how safe online relationships are..........

newlychaste -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 7:41:00 AM)
I had started a thread on a similar topic, called "Financial Domination: Solved," and I think that it's close enough to be valid over here. There's an "interest search" function on Collarme. Why not just change the terms of service to, "financial domination encouraged--just list it as an interest," and include a NOT function on the interest search? If I could narrow my snooping to only people that weren't interested in dominating my wallet--which I make it a point to keep empty, in case anyone asks--I might actually be able to browse profiles that might interest me. :) And it will make it easy for "money piglets" to find their wallet rapists a little easier. The concept of financial domination repulses me on a basic level. As a first-time homeowner interested in a serious relationship, it bothers me to have to hide several profiles, just to skim through what seems to me to be a new borderline sort of begging. The distinctions among financial domination fetishism, demands of tribute, and professional domination are important. Unlike professional domination--where money is exchanged for the time of someone with the expertise and tools to render a valuable service--dominants demanding "tribute" for their time (or that their slaves be "generous"), I think I'd call "unprofessional domination." I appreciate CuriousLord's comments in regard to supply and demand, but disagree with the comment that "A lot of male slaves have a supply of money and a demand for sex/BDSM. A lot of women have a supply of sex/BDSM and a demand for money. Seems like a fair match." I suppose what bothers me the most about the whole thing is this: if a man or a woman simply wants sex, he or she can hire an escort. If a man or a woman wants a BDSM session, he or she can go to a professional. Is financial domination a service rendered--like cooking--or is it just veiled panhandling? I feel like there's something even deeper that I can't quite get at, here. I'm just plain too tired to hash it out any further. --- "The dude abides."

Padriag -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 7:58:27 AM)
Heh... my employee's accuse me of financial domination. I sign their paychecks, they do things MY way! LOL Somewhat ironically the same has been true of many of the submissives I've been involved with. They lived in my house, ate my food, while I paid the bills, and took care of things. Its the old golden rule... I have the gold, I make the rules. But whether its me using my financial success, or someone paying for their kink, I think the reality of it all boils down to this... if you have something someone else wants more than you do... you end up making the rules. That means that my employees do things my way because they want that paycheck. A Prodomme may end up doing what a client wants because the client pays particularly well. A submissive man ends up paying tribute because he's a slave to his kinks. A dominant man may end up working to please a submissive woman because he's too afraid of losing her. Labels are easy, looking beyond them to understand what is really happening is the tricky part.

newlychaste -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 8:11:51 AM)
quote: Labels are easy, looking beyond them to understand what is really happening is the tricky part. Not a bad point. Wikipedia's article put me on a thought: even blackmail could be considered a service. So what is the defining characteristic of financial domination? Just getting paid to be a jerk? Don't get me wrong, I like verbal humiliation as much as the next guy or girl, but I also enjoy kissing. Fuck, man. What I really want is someone that I can pay to kiss. Seriously. Why has that never been thought of before? Or does it exist, and I'm just not aware of it? And if so, where does one go to find such a thing? --- "The dude abides."

TracyTaken -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 8:29:49 AM)
quote: I suppose what bothers me the most about the whole thing is this: if a man or a woman simply wants sex, he or she can hire an escort. If a man or a woman wants a BDSM session, he or she can go to a professional. Taken from another angle, many, many male Doms simply want sex and a BDSM session. Many female submissives want something deeper and more permanent. It can be a lot of work sorting through who wants what from whom. If there is a market for someone's kiss, that person can charge for kissing. It sounds to me like what you want can't be bought anyway, even if you were willing to pay.

parttimehotty -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 9:11:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsLadySue This question or variations of it come up often. If you do a search using the word tributes you will find lots of information to satisfy your curiousity. Yup, that's what i did because i was going to try & save LA the trouble, but there were just too many ;(

liks2plzlf -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 11:40:57 AM)
Sounds a whole lot like marriage with benefits. As a sub male seeking a 24/7, live in, committed relationship, I expect to surrender my income to her.Obviously this would be someone I cared for very much, and would want to make her life nicer, and easier. I would have to believe she cared about me beyond a paycheck as well. Even in my vanilla relationships I liked to be able to help her if she needed or wanted it. It could be cheaper in the long run to just visit a pro domme, and only endure what I wish, when I wanted. Just would not be the same and not a TPE.

miatmslave -> RE: Submissives and slaves that pay tribute (2/7/2008 1:47:19 PM)
in my experience its mostly women that ask for tributes but i have been with a couple male doms that did it as well. it really varies though. each dom or domme is different. some would be offended because they think its like prostitution. some demand it because they believe their time is money. others just want a one time tribute to show your not a fake. everyone has different reasons. same goes for the subs that pay it. some like to, some just do it to be with the domme.

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