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Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 12:30:36 AM   
sikpup


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I've read here for a while now and now I just need someone to "talk" to. Someone who isn't my Master, not yet. I'm a female slave. I have been with my Master for ten months and I've been in this lifestyle for about ten years.  For reasons that should quickly become apparent, right now I need an anonymous "sounding board" to whom I (and my Master) are also unknown. There are a number of posters here whose experiences and ideas I have come to respect. So thank you in advance for listening.

Ten months is not a terribly long time, no, and we do not live together. Ten months is long enough to figure out that my Master and I are sexually mismatched. This is proving to be more confusing and painful than I would have ever imagined. Yet, I feel so uncomfortable even leveling this much complaint or criticism at my Master. I admire him greatly. He is confident, responsible, strong, and honorable. He's demanding, and can be harsh, but he's intelligent, clueful and realistic and he can also be quite kind.  He's not a warm, physically affectionate man but I have learned that that does not in any way reflect his regard for me.
Every other aspect of our relationship to one another "fits" and is developing to mutual satisfaction. In short, we are rather well suited to one another in almost every way. Certainly if I were counselling a friend in a more conventional relationship I would encourage her to look at the whole of the thing before she made any decision to discard it over sex (particularly at this late-thirties stage of life). 

But....but. Speaking of those more conventional relationships: if I wanted a relationship in which my kinkier submissive itches went unscratched, I'd have one of those. Yes, I'm deeply service oriented but I can (and do) do service-y type things for just about anybody I care for and find satisfaction in it.  If it were just good basic sex and companionship I was into, well, it still isn't terribly hard to get myself laid--and passing few men object to enthusiastic blow jobs!  But there are reasons, after all, that I seek this type of relationship. I desire to submit, to serve. I function best in a relationship structured and controlled by another.  I'm just finding out in a hard way that the non-sexual domination that I crave is less compelling and less fulfilling without the sexual component of it. Sure, I can get pleasure from "just" sex in general, but what really trips my triggers is the whole experience of forceful, dominant, kinky sexual use.  I crave being in sexual thrall.  And as it turns out, it seems to be that which inspires a lot of the feelings that I turn into enthusiastic service and submission to another. I thought I could sublimate it. I thought tight focus on what my Master desires would re-channel these urges. I *think* I please him sexually--he says that I do.  It just turns out that his sexual needs are less...complicated than mine. I feel so selfish, not to mention shallow. These are not feelings I enjoy. But I feel so very undesired. Under-valued, maybe. But why is that? He is getting, I have to believe, since he does not indicate otherwise, exactly what he wants how he wants it, so shouldn't that be enough?? That has been an article of faith with me. I guess my faith is being tested.

Now, I don't expect anyone to be running around lusting after me 24-7.  Who has that kind of free time? My desire and expectations are not that childish. But maybe I am jaded.  I know that my experiences and conditioning with my previous long-term owner are probably as responsible as my own inherent inclinations.  He was very highly sexed, very edgy, very perverted, so I was too. My experiences with other dominant men have differed only in degree and specific kinks. I guess I kinda grew to expect it as part of the package. Who doesn't like frequent, kinky sex?!?  While Master and i were getting to know one another nothing challenged this assumption.
I am attracted to him. I desire him as much as I desire the acts he might commit on me.  He exudes sex and dominance. Just look at him and you can't help but think of rough, nasty, delicious doings. He certainly seemed pretty damned kinky to me from our earliest conversations. He enjoys sadomasochistic and perverted things.  He admires and aquires SM equipment. The first few times he fucked me there were no surprises--he was as kinky and sexually demanding as I had come to expect and yearn for and he's very good. Yet, that was also almost the very last time--ten months ago--that he really showed that side of himself.  So, obviously, he doesn't want frequent kinky sex. Or maybe just not with me. I don't know. He isn't sexually monogamous but I don't know the details of, or care, what he does with others...and others aren't that frequent an occurance either.  It isn't a chastity-as-kink thing. I know there are those who get satisfaction from enforcing or experiencing sexual denial but this is not what is going on.  He is sexual--he just doesn't seem to want much of it. Or maybe I want too much?

I have tried, really tried, to turn these feelings off.  I  remind myself time and time again that it is his pleasure, after all, that I am  to be focused on and if what gives him pleasure is as easy as basically vanilla sex, well, there are certainly far worse things I could have to accept.  I do feel gratitude and pleasure the times he has sex with me. I am mindful that there is certainly more to life, and our relationship, than sex and sadomasochism, and that I'm really not so young any more that I should be discarding an otherwise satisfactory long term situation just cause I'm not getting all my jollies.  Dominant men of his caliber  aren't just crawling out of the walls. Yet I don't know if, had I been able to foresee this, whether I would have entered the relationship.  Is that fucking (heh) shallow or what? But bottom line, the lack is becoming deeply felt; t
he little physical things that can be motivators and triggers for feeling deeply submissive, for me, are just not there. I'm kind of...irritable. Not myself. Distracted. I have thoughts of doing things I most certainly should not do. (Seeking outside sexual satisfaction is very much not an option. Sadly, I also can't masturbate--not because he requires that I don't, he doesn't care. I just really am not able to do so. It's boring.) It seems so trivial, but I long to feel a fist grasping my hair or the back of my neck, or my throat. I long to feel that utterly overwhelmed, used, sore in places I didn't know I had, sex still riding my body the day after feeling--no, not all the time, but yes, sometimes. I yearn to feel desired.

Yet, I am a slave. That means something to me. I serve him. I like and respect and honor him.  I have committed myself to him and he expresses no dis-satisfaction with me.  This should be enough. Period. But my sense of myself as a sexual being is vanishing and I can't help but mourn its loss. With it, I fear, will eventually go my desire to serve and submit. Will what will then be a basically vanilla relationship with the exceptions of where I sit and how decisions are made be enough to sustain me? Will I even care?

Thanks for listening. Sorry for the length. I suppose I could have said something more succinct like "Master doesn't fuck me enough...any suggestions?" So, obviously, I open all this up to him. I'll open all this up to him because he has the right to not have his slave hiding rather important things from him and because it is the right thing to do. (Though I'm open for suggestions about how to do this without cowarding out) But, honestly, I don't expect anything to change.  I'll have to make the decision to live with it, or to leave. And that will hurt, so is it even worth it?  It's a bitter irony, isn't it?  That which I am being asked to submit, that element of my needs/desires which will require the deepest amount of denial of my self to another's wishes, that which has been the most challenging act of accepting the control of another over in ways that do not meet my needs in any way may very well prove to be that which ultimately vanquishes my desire to do so.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 12:37:49 AM   
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Copy and paste this in an email to him, then talk about it... He will listen....

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 12:56:50 AM   
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quote:


 have tried, really tried, to turn these feelings off.  I  remind myself time and time again that it is his pleasure, after all, that I am  to be focused on and if what gives him pleasure is as easy as basically vanilla sex, well, there are certainly far worse things I could have to accept.  I do feel gratitude and pleasure the times he has sex with me. I am mindful that there is certainly more to life, and our relationship, than sex and sadomasochism, and that I'm really not so young any more that I should be discarding an otherwise satisfactory long term situation just cause I'm not getting all my jollies.  Dominant men of his caliber  aren't just crawling out of the walls. Yet I don't know if, had I been able to foresee this, whether I would have entered the relationship.  Is that fucking (heh) shallow or what? But bottom line, the lack is becoming deeply felt; the little physical things that can be motivators and triggers for feeling deeply submissive, for me, are just not there. I'm kind of...irritable. Not myself. Distracted. I have thoughts of doing things I most certainly should not do. (Seeking outside sexual satisfaction is very much not an option. Sadly, I also can't masturbate--not because he requires that I don't, he doesn't care. I just really am not able to do so. It's boring.) It seems so trivial, but I long to feel a fist grasping my hair or the back of my neck, or my throat. I long to feel that utterly overwhelmed, used, sore in places I didn't know I had, sex still riding my body the day after feeling--no, not all the time, but yes, sometimes. I yearn to feel desired.


With the bolded passage, therein lies what you really need to answer. Yes, communication is key, but communication also requires having something TO communicate  With a lack of self-clarity in this, how and what you communicate will be drastically different from one or the other.

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Yet, I am a slave. That means something to me. I serve him. I like and respect and honor him.  I have committed myself to him and he expresses no dis-satisfaction with me.  This should be enough. Period. But my sense of myself as a sexual being is vanishing and I can't help but mourn its loss. With it, I fear, will eventually go my desire to serve and submit. Will what will then be a basically vanilla relationship with the exceptions of where I sit and how decisions are made be enough to sustain me? Will I even care?


To be blunt, even posting this is enought to answer your last question, because if you didn't care, you would have not posted here to begin with. 

If the answer to the first bolded question above, was yes, the second below it is the next question to answer.

The dynamic, like conversation, is not a one-way street.  Is he even aware that you feel like this?  Going by the post, I'd say the answer is 'no', and unless he has magical abilities, he's no mind reader either.  Your unfulfilled need will remain unfulfilled unless the person that can and does have the ability to fulfill is aware of that need, period.

My magic 8-ball doesn't peer far enough into the future to care to take a stab at guessing what happens after that.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 1:00:39 AM   
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I know how you feel sweety. My Master says that I am supposed to get my pleasure from serving him. Only. He says that it is almost blasphemy for me to say "what about me". I did say that once and he still rubs my face in it from time to time. So I have come to the conclusion that he is going to do whatever he wants and I better accept it and forget about my own desires and wants and needs so that I can serve him in his wants and needs. I find this very difficult. But I am trying very hard.

My suggestion to you is to either do as 'breatheasone' suggested and put all that in an email. Or tell him face to face what you want...of course you have to figure out how to do that in a very submissive manner.

I wish you luck in your endeavor to find happiness. I truly hope you get what you want from your Master.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 1:17:03 AM   
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puppy,
You come second but a mismatch is a mismatch.There is a difference between narcicism and a fully realized master slave relationship. Get down on your knees with your petition and then consider the future with him.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 2:13:44 AM   
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quote:

The first few times he fucked me there were no surprises--he was as kinky and sexually demanding as I had come to expect and yearn for and he's very good. Yet, that was also almost the very last time--ten months ago--that he really showed that side of himself.


I'm not sure how much you two communicate, but is it possible that he doesn't realise how much you enjoyed that side of him?  You said 'the first few times', so presumably after that it changed...did you ever mention that you enjoyed one over the other?  Just a though.


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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 2:21:38 AM   
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I see the loss of initial BDSM activity in Doms on a fairly regular basis. It's always confusing and wrenching for the submissive partner, and I've never seen one become contented with it. I don't know what you can do except to tell him how much you loved that time, and how much you crave it now. But, unless he also craves it, the mismatch will be here to stay. So perhaps a conversation about his needs and desires can be less threatening than one complaining that you're not getting what you need. You should soon find out what you really need to know from him, and use that as a jumping off point for either fresh ideas or a difficult realization.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 2:45:29 AM   
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I would definitely tell him what you are feeling.  I would suggest this in a respectful conversation, rather than an email.  I certainly understand sexual mismatch, but in my case it was with my husband, with whom I had a relationship which was in all other ways fulfilling for 6 years, but didn't meet my BDSM needs at all.  It felt trivial.  I though about how I had made this commitment, how deeply I loved him, and at first thought I should just get over it.  Eventually, though, we had several very open conversations and I was able to play with a Master.  Over the years that has evolved to be a sexual relationship and my husband and I have become poly, even adding a third to our relationship. While it isn't the same problem, so I am sure the solution will be different in your case, it remains that my situation only changed due to honest, loving, direct communication.

Blessings on your journey.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 2:56:18 AM   
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There are many days I come here and realize how lucky I am. I am a slave to him but he sees to it my needs are met, he also created those needs .... what seems like very long ago now I was in the mind set where as long as their needs were met I was very content. But I had  become almost sexless.... and honestly I  thought that was fine ... When I came to him  that was just totally unacceptable. At times I would literally get in trouble for things such as trying to  hold off an orgasm, not letting out the the sounds  that accompany  enjoyment.  Fire & pashion is so much a part of this for us now I cant imagine  going back to not having it. I cant say your masters ways are wrong ... but I have also always said a slave needs the same care one would give his car or lawn mower for that  matter .... 

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 3:12:10 AM   
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You are who you are and you need what you need, there is no justification necessary. You need to lay it all out to him and take it from there.

I said this elsewhere today, but even if this this is the greatest man in the world, you should not comprimise your self, your basic feelings desires and needs, it can only lead to problems.

I wish you the best, you are obviously struggling with this and I hope you get the outcome you desire.

Just a thought but if he is not monogomous, is there any chance of you geting your kinky sex fill elsewhere, while still answering to him as your Dom (all above board and out in the open of course)

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 6:11:49 AM   
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He definitely needs to know.
And trust me, your sexual satisfaction is just as important-to keep your relationship healthy-as his is.
It might be easier to email it to him.
I do know that there are times I have to use email to express myself, because when I speak to Him about something important, I may get too shy, or lose the words I wanted to say.
Another thing I would suggest, is to send him lots of kinky stuff (images, cards, ideas for new toys...etc.)
Good luck to ya!

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 7:49:33 AM   
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"Would you have me sacrifice my own happiness, to ensure yours?" (Maybe not quite in those words)
I asked that of someone once when faced with a mismatch. I was happy that his answer was a very somber "No." I was willing to do it too, but I talked to him about it first. It resulted in the end of our relationship, but we remained friends after. It was nice to know he cared about my well being, above simply getting what he wanted, despite the fact I was willing to do just that. Now I ask that question whenever I hit a seeming incompatibility. Will one suffer for the other, or will there be compromise? If both are willing to bend, then it can move forward, if one is not, then it's time to break off instead of bashing your head in against the unyeilding condition.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 8:28:41 AM   
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Males as we get older have a lessened sex drive. Since his age is not posted that is a unknown, he might want to get his testosterone level checked.
As I have delved deeper and deeper into my Sadistic/ Bdsm side I find that I get more "sexual" gratification from the submission of others then from "sex", Ok I do still love it but the power/control issue and feelings I get when I grab my slaves hair and tell her to cum is MUCH more satisfying then if we had sex.
So have I mellowed over the years from my swinging era.. perhaps
Have I a lower sex  "drive" due to age. In my case no as I am on testosterone patches and altho I am over 50 I have the testosterone level of a 18-20 yr old.
Am I on a power trip.. Yes
Do I like it and want more.. YES

In he finding you he may be on that same trip.. And its nice..

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 8:46:27 AM   
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Real dominants are psychic and if he hasn't read your mind by now, he never will.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 9:04:37 AM   
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There is so much rationalization in your well crafted writing, it is kind of hard to weed out what's what. Putting your master on a pedestal, as you do, isn't going to help you, and clearly, your needs are not being met. I am not really seeing "the big issue" here - you're one type of slave, he is another type of master. I am not a huge believer in trying to change a partner, that is hardly ever successful, you cannot put a desire where there is none. So: if he doesn't meet your needs, find someone who does. There is someone out there, and a bit of determination and effort on your part will find him. Whether or not your current master is a superb human being is neither here nor there - and, FWIW, I ensure that when I aquire a new slave I understand why she is here, what her needs and expectations are, as those always exist. An M/s relationship, like all relationships, needs to have two way traffic, and if you yourself feel there are needs of your that must be met, well, then go  make sure that happens. Only you can.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 11:15:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sikpup

I've read here for a while now and now I just need someone to "talk" to. Someone who isn't my Master, not yet. I'm a female slave. I have been with my Master for ten months and I've been in this lifestyle for about ten years.  For reasons that should quickly become apparent, right now I need an anonymous "sounding board" to whom I (and my Master) are also unknown. There are a number of posters here whose experiences and ideas I have come to respect. So thank you in advance for listening.

Ten months is not a terribly long time, no, and we do not live together. Ten months is long enough to figure out that my Master and I are sexually mismatched. This is proving to be more confusing and painful than I would have ever imagined. Yet, I feel so uncomfortable even leveling this much complaint or criticism at my Master. I admire him greatly. He is confident, responsible, strong, and honorable. He's demanding, and can be harsh, but he's intelligent, clueful and realistic and he can also be quite kind.  He's not a warm, physically affectionate man but I have learned that that does not in any way reflect his regard for me.
Every other aspect of our relationship to one another "fits" and is developing to mutual satisfaction. In short, we are rather well suited to one another in almost every way. Certainly if I were counselling a friend in a more conventional relationship I would encourage her to look at the whole of the thing before she made any decision to discard it over sex (particularly at this late-thirties stage of life). 

But....but. Speaking of those more conventional relationships: if I wanted a relationship in which my kinkier submissive itches went unscratched, I'd have one of those. Yes, I'm deeply service oriented but I can (and do) do service-y type things for just about anybody I care for and find satisfaction in it.  If it were just good basic sex and companionship I was into, well, it still isn't terribly hard to get myself laid--and passing few men object to enthusiastic blow jobs!  But there are reasons, after all, that I seek this type of relationship. I desire to submit, to serve. I function best in a relationship structured and controlled by another.  I'm just finding out in a hard way that the non-sexual domination that I crave is less compelling and less fulfilling without the sexual component of it. Sure, I can get pleasure from "just" sex in general, but what really trips my triggers is the whole experience of forceful, dominant, kinky sexual use.  I crave being in sexual thrall.  And as it turns out, it seems to be that which inspires a lot of the feelings that I turn into enthusiastic service and submission to another. I thought I could sublimate it. I thought tight focus on what my Master desires would re-channel these urges. I *think* I please him sexually--he says that I do.  It just turns out that his sexual needs are less...complicated than mine. I feel so selfish, not to mention shallow. These are not feelings I enjoy. But I feel so very undesired. Under-valued, maybe. But why is that? He is getting, I have to believe, since he does not indicate otherwise, exactly what he wants how he wants it, so shouldn't that be enough?? That has been an article of faith with me. I guess my faith is being tested.

Now, I don't expect anyone to be running around lusting after me 24-7.  Who has that kind of free time? My desire and expectations are not that childish. But maybe I am jaded.  I know that my experiences and conditioning with my previous long-term owner are probably as responsible as my own inherent inclinations.  He was very highly sexed, very edgy, very perverted, so I was too. My experiences with other dominant men have differed only in degree and specific kinks. I guess I kinda grew to expect it as part of the package. Who doesn't like frequent, kinky sex?!?  While Master and i were getting to know one another nothing challenged this assumption.
I am attracted to him. I desire him as much as I desire the acts he might commit on me.  He exudes sex and dominance. Just look at him and you can't help but think of rough, nasty, delicious doings. He certainly seemed pretty damned kinky to me from our earliest conversations. He enjoys sadomasochistic and perverted things.  He admires and aquires SM equipment. The first few times he fucked me there were no surprises--he was as kinky and sexually demanding as I had come to expect and yearn for and he's very good. Yet, that was also almost the very last time--ten months ago--that he really showed that side of himself.  So, obviously, he doesn't want frequent kinky sex. Or maybe just not with me. I don't know. He isn't sexually monogamous but I don't know the details of, or care, what he does with others...and others aren't that frequent an occurance either.  It isn't a chastity-as-kink thing. I know there are those who get satisfaction from enforcing or experiencing sexual denial but this is not what is going on.  He is sexual--he just doesn't seem to want much of it. Or maybe I want too much?

I have tried, really tried, to turn these feelings off.  I  remind myself time and time again that it is his pleasure, after all, that I am  to be focused on and if what gives him pleasure is as easy as basically vanilla sex, well, there are certainly far worse things I could have to accept.  I do feel gratitude and pleasure the times he has sex with me. I am mindful that there is certainly more to life, and our relationship, than sex and sadomasochism, and that I'm really not so young any more that I should be discarding an otherwise satisfactory long term situation just cause I'm not getting all my jollies.  Dominant men of his caliber  aren't just crawling out of the walls. Yet I don't know if, had I been able to foresee this, whether I would have entered the relationship.  Is that fucking (heh) shallow or what? But bottom line, the lack is becoming deeply felt; t
he little physical things that can be motivators and triggers for feeling deeply submissive, for me, are just not there. I'm kind of...irritable. Not myself. Distracted. I have thoughts of doing things I most certainly should not do. (Seeking outside sexual satisfaction is very much not an option. Sadly, I also can't masturbate--not because he requires that I don't, he doesn't care. I just really am not able to do so. It's boring.) It seems so trivial, but I long to feel a fist grasping my hair or the back of my neck, or my throat. I long to feel that utterly overwhelmed, used, sore in places I didn't know I had, sex still riding my body the day after feeling--no, not all the time, but yes, sometimes. I yearn to feel desired.

Yet, I am a slave. That means something to me. I serve him. I like and respect and honor him.  I have committed myself to him and he expresses no dis-satisfaction with me.  This should be enough. Period. But my sense of myself as a sexual being is vanishing and I can't help but mourn its loss. With it, I fear, will eventually go my desire to serve and submit. Will what will then be a basically vanilla relationship with the exceptions of where I sit and how decisions are made be enough to sustain me? Will I even care?

Thanks for listening. Sorry for the length. I suppose I could have said something more succinct like "Master doesn't fuck me enough...any suggestions?" So, obviously, I open all this up to him. I'll open all this up to him because he has the right to not have his slave hiding rather important things from him and because it is the right thing to do. (Though I'm open for suggestions about how to do this without cowarding out) But, honestly, I don't expect anything to change.  I'll have to make the decision to live with it, or to leave. And that will hurt, so is it even worth it?  It's a bitter irony, isn't it?  That which I am being asked to submit, that element of my needs/desires which will require the deepest amount of denial of my self to another's wishes, that which has been the most challenging act of accepting the control of another over in ways that do not meet my needs in any way may very well prove to be that which ultimately vanquishes my desire to do so.

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I don't know how to do the quote snippy thingies like so many do with ease so I just bolded the parts that stuck out for me.  It almost sounds, to me, like the age-old marriage vs. sexual relationship thing.....along come the kids and the sex life gets relegated to the back burner, on Saturday nights, as something that "Honey, I think we're supposed to be doing this"  instead of the ol' rip-roaring sex anywhereanytimeanyol'whichway that it was "in our younger days".  Another phrase comes to mind is in a rut.   You've been together only 10 months and do not live together, I'm thinking that the great rough kinky sex from the beginning should almost still be there.  He's kinky and into SM and sexually perverted from what you said, but doesn't do it anymore like at the beginning.  He's fallen basically into the rut of having "normal" sex...you do me, I do you, roll on and fuck for 5 then roll off for the proverbial beer and cigarette.  I agree that it must be very difficult to settle for that when you know he is capable of so much more.  I also agree with the other posters that communication is the key.  But you can talk til you're blue in the face if he doesn't want to put out the effort to get past the "same ol' vanilla sex" thing again.  Is it possible his feelings have changed toward you?  That he sees you as more of a loving caring mistress type instead of the rough kinky sex slut?  You also said he wasn't monogamous....is he doing the rough kinky sex stuff on the side and not with you?  That may be a telling situation right there. 

I really have no words of advice but just lots of support.  TALK is pretty much what it comes down to.  A real heart-to-heart and lay it out.  Your sexual needs are not being met when there were all indications at the beginning that they would be.  Are you free to go elsewhere for this?  It seems he is, maybe you should.  I don't know, going around in circles with this.  Hugs to ya and good luck.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/7/2008 11:34:19 AM   
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I was going to mention the vanilla marriage thing. 

In a wierd sort of way, the OP remined me of some of the stories I've heard from 40's and 50's people.  They end up discovering their needs change (or they just fully realize their latent needs, take your pick), a few years down the road and that relationship is no more. It sucks to be certain, but the vast majority have no regrets in making the beak and finding someone who is compatible in all their needs.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/8/2008 12:13:50 PM   
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It sounds as though he can only be sadistic towards people he doesn't care about. Unfortunately he isn't attempting to reconcile this. It's not uncommon. This is why happily married men go to street corner prostitutes for blow jobs, because they think it's wrong to have someone they love who is their cherished wife and mother of their offspring to such a dirty thing.

Of course, eventually the truth comes out and that causes the break up whereas telling his partner of his confused feelings in the beginning could have easily solved it.

You do need to put your needs first, just stuffing down your resentments, frustrations and unhappiness is guaranteed to cause a huge blow up down the line. None of us got into a relationship thinking "Ooh goody, my needs are going to be ignored and I'm going to be repeatedly harassed and humiliated if I dare mention even once how deeply unhappy I am." "What about my needs?" is an appropriate question. Because when the answer is constant ridicule and being told that you are so unimportant that your unhappiness doesn't bother him at all, then you know that the other person is a selfish jerk.

Sometimes there can be compromises made to fulfill both partners needs, other times you just have to admit that you aren't compatible. Plus that bait and switch stuff, he only did it to get you to submit and now that you have, he never plans to do it again is the same as lying in my book.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/8/2008 3:41:53 PM   
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Sounds to me like you finaly found someone you like and cant get along in the sac so you dont know wether to put up with it or not.
Based on what you wrote here (your profile is kind of blank).  You should most likely move on.  The reason I say this is that your Master does not seem to fullfill any of your needs but just keeps you frustrated.  That is a real problem because you allready want to cheat...lol. One of the things a Master is usually aware of is where the sub is headspace wise and although performance may be down in the sexual department on his end dosnt mean that he cant dominate you in ways that are sexually satifying and posibly even humilliating to you yet dont involve him sexually.  A Master in my personal opinion should be able to devote a great deal of time in a slave... after all slaves to me seem very demanding compared to vanilla woman and it just seems like part of the course so to speak. I make it a point to devote at least an hour a day to my sub in some form of Dominant capacity. It really does not take that much and is only about the same amount of time as a lunch break or the same amount of time as getting ready for work in the morning. If a Master cant do that then I think a lot of people, but of course not all, would questions the Masters motives when it comes to a 24/7 relationship like it appears as though  you are seeking. It dosnt really take a whole lot to do something like make you take off your clothes squat on a thick cucumber and hand feed him while he watches the news or simular type things.  I know that does not really scratch the itch and is not entirely what you are looking for the presents of Domination / submition mixed with a constant air of extream eroticicsm is not that hard to produce and can create a form of satisfaction that you sexually belong to him. I might be totaly going off on the wrong angle here but after only ten months you are experienceing these issues how do you think you will feel ten years from now?  Your also really not that old compared to others in this lifestyle.  Shooting yourself down like that because of your age makes me feel as though you could have other issues going on with yourself that you are not aware of or dont really recognize.... you should no better than that.  There are a lot of Doms out there and by the boards it seems as though there are a lot of assholes but from reading what I could of your profile I find it hard to believe that there is not an asshole out there that is right for you. If your Master only meats your mental needs than perhaps he would be better off as your friend (Damn I cant believe I just said that...LOL) .  If your looking for a LTR than look for a satisfying LTR and dont settle for something because you are lonely because doing that will just place in the same situation that made you look for a Dom in the first place and you will have a lot more issues when you are looking again ten years from now.

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RE: Mismatched sexual needs - 2/9/2008 10:06:01 AM   
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Op,

I assume if you have been in this relationship for more then 10 months you have explained your feelings. I understand where you are coming from. I had someone just ask me lately,"In two years from now, not being full filled sexually, could you live like that? Or would you feel like you have given up yourself?" Our earlier mothers were drilled that sexual needs and wants were not our concern. We were to serve the male and they were to care for us in how they feel fit. It seems so for women now to use that rational for our sexual needs. When ever i explain my unhappiness, I have to say..."He is a great guy, but I am never sexually satisfied." If you are like me, at some point you are actually sexually frustrated.

We all have diffrent levels of sexual needs that need to be satisfied. The key isn't to find someone who is at the same level, or at least at the same livable level.

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