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Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:32:15 PM   
LadyHathor


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Status: offline 		Ok, I don't get it--how an intelligent, well versed, educated person can  (A) allow a Dr to prescribe tons of crap and (B) take tons of crap with all the media about how mixing drugs/meds is lethal--
 
Can anyone explain this?

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:34:03 PM   
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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:34:41 PM   
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Ok, I don't get it--how an intelligent, well versed, educated person can (A) allow a Dr to prescribe tons of crap and (B) take tons of crap with all the media about how mixing drugs/meds is lethal--

Can anyone explain this?


Because some intelligent, well versed, educated people don't have a lick of common sense.

(This is also explains Democrats, btw)

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:39:40 PM   
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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:43:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		i've had accidental overdoses of meds (though not bad enough to be hospitalized or had to face long term side effects). i like to think of myself as being at least slightly educated, i hold a BA and am working on my first of hopefully a couple of master's. but at the same time i know that i'm not a doctor and while i know that some things just don't go together i can't know all of the possible interactions without some sort of science degree. it's not my field and i don't have the time to brush up on my pharm skills. i know not to take antihistimins with my blood pressure meds and not to drink to excess with my antidepressant (i take exceptionally low doses and have been told that drinking in small (emphasis on small) amounts on my nonprescription days is fine). but unfortunately yes i discovered i can't take sulfas when i went into a full body rejection. 

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:44:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Ok, I don't get it--how an intelligent, well versed, educated person can  (A) allow a Dr to prescribe tons of crap and (B) take tons of crap with all the media about how mixing drugs/meds is lethal--
 
Can anyone explain this?


I presume you're referring to the Heath Ledger situation.

He had very valid reasons for having prescribed each of those drugs...whether for sleep or depression...etc.

He just did something remarkably stupid...he took them all at once...and in quantities that individually, were exceptional amounts.

Combined, they were killers.

The doctors are not at fault, any more than Chrysler was or is because someone killed someone with their vehicle.

(Occasionally...we all need to take just a smidge of responsability for our own actions....not everyone's a victim in life).

However...if you choose to be....well....

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:48:45 PM   
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If these two pills make me feel better, then 20 of these pills will make me feel alot better


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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:49:49 PM   
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Depression can lead to bad decisions and impaired judgement.

If these two pills make me feel better, then 20 of these pills will make me feel alot better



this is true. and depending on what type of drug (ie an antidepressant), the symptoms might actually be heightened which can make doing this even more appealing.


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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:53:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		i gather he wasn't in the best frame of mind to begin with, hadn't been sleeping, busy with the demands of career and fatherhood, the guy made a fatal error in judgement.  seperately he was overdoing the meds, all together it was a fatal mistake.  common sense doesn't always go with good looks.  unfortunate, but true. 

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:55:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Part of the problem is accidental overdose while under the influence.  For example, taking one medication, it doesn't get the desired effect, take another med, doesn't get the desired effect, now the person is under the influence, possibly forgetting what he's already taken or when he took it, takes some more, recipe for disaster.  Didn't mean to od, but was under the influence and didn't know what the heck he took or when.

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 6:58:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Ok, I don't get it--how an intelligent, well versed, educated person can  (A) allow a Dr to prescribe tons of crap and (B) take tons of crap with all the media about how mixing drugs/meds is lethal--
 
Can anyone explain this?


This is minor in comparrison to others, I know.

Last year I had a sinus infection that I couldn't shake so I finally went to the doctors, I go so rarely and take so few antibiotics that Amoxacillin is enough.  But I was so miserable by the time I sought treatment that when she said she wanted to perscribe bactin I took it because I just wanted to get well.  When I broke out in a rash because it was too much medicine it was a lesson learned.

As far as the headlines-- sometimes intelligent people just want reality to go away and they aren't thinking of the consequenses.

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 7:01:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I knew someone who almost died from allergy medicine. She didn't know it took 36 hours to work, and kept taking more, and ended up in a coma. Drugs are so easy to get, I think people tend to underestimate what the side effects can be.

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 7:04:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		And Brittany is educated, intelligent or well versed in anything?  I think she is mentally ill and is not getting treatment.....but dont think she is any of the above

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 7:07:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some people idolize their doctors to the point of doing whatever their doctors tell them to do.  Doctors (and lawyers) seem to have an intimidation factor where people will do anything they're told to do simply because, "My doctor told me to!" 

Some people go to multiple doctors who are all prescribing pills for different things and aren't communicating with each other on what they're prescribing, and that's a recipe for trouble.  In other words, Dr. A could be prescribing pills that could have a negative counter-effect on the pills that Dr. B is prescribing, or they could be doubling the dose of a medication if both are prescibing it.  But if the patient, either intentionally or unintentionally, doesn't tell Dr. A what Dr. B is prescribing, and vice versa, then it could cause some serious problems.

Some people present a well-educated, well-versed face to the world, but are really dealing with psychological problems, such as hypochondria, addictive personalities, Munchausen's (hurting oneself or making oneself ill to justify seeking out medical attention because they crave attention of any kind), even suicidal tendencies. 



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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 7:21:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Ok, I don't get it--how an intelligent, well versed, educated person can  (A) allow a Dr to prescribe tons of crap and (B) take tons of crap with all the media about how mixing drugs/meds is lethal--
 
Can anyone explain this?


MH,
I think that many times the problems lies in the patent not telling their doctors about the other medicines they are taking. For intstance, I have several doctors, if I didn't tell each one what I was taking, then I could be setting myself up for an overdose or an adverse reaction of interacting the drugs. Yes, one does have to take responsibility for their health, including informing each doctor of the other meds they take.
 
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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 7:22:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I take 18 different things a day.   All prescribed by my doc.    I have several major medical issues (diabeties, asthma, hypetension, Kidney, enlarged heart, etc).   And I have others on standby for emergency use.   I would think that it depends on the illnesses.   From there the drug interactions can be severe.   And I think it is impossible to counter every possible side effect by changing drugs.   Therefore I think it is possible to accidentally overdose.   But I also think one should only take what is prescribed for real not immained issues.   I had a friend who overdosed becasue he was taking so much stuff from so many different docs and not telling them about what he was taking.  Although his overdose was accidental, he brought it on himself because he was making up his diseases so he could get welfare drugs for his "disability".   He now is off most of the stuff except for what is real not immagined and holds a real job.   In his case the overdose was a good thing.

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 9:26:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I also would wager that part of success in today's world means lack of privacy.  In order to avoid speculation and paparazzi crap, he may have gone very underground and tried to self medicate.  I think it was more a perfect storm of many factors converging at the wrong time.

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 9:44:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some people like to be stubborn decideing that they know there body better than the Doctors they see.

Let's think about it. How many of us have ignored directions with Tylenol or Advil?

Take two and not more than eight? Are you shitting me? I'm in pain damn it. I'm not feeling better, I guess I need to take some more.

I can't sleep. I just can't sleep damn it. Hell, I'm sure if I take enough, I'll fall asleep.

When having a bad case of stomach cramps and the runs, how many of us decide to just chug out of the Pepto rather than measure table spoons?


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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 9:44:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: darchChylde

Depression can lead to bad decisions and impaired judgement.

If these two pills make me feel better, then 20 of these pills will make me feel alot better



Unless you are exagerating, that IS stupid!!  I can understand taking an extra tylenol, but no, you dont just up your anti depressants by that much, some people will a little, stillnot smart, but that screams self destructive to take 20!

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RE: Accidental Over doses - 2/8/2008 9:52:36 PM   
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Because some intelligent, well versed, educated people don't have a lick of common sense.

(This is also explains Democrats, btw)


Too true. Like how some people just can't help mixing ploitical sniping and back biting with totally unrelated topics.


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