RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not

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eyesopened -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 2:32:01 AM)
A wise man once gave me this truth and i have yet to find an exception: "For that which is truly important, time and money *will* be found." People will tuck away a couple of bucks, seek out vacation time, find babysitters, they will do what it takes only if it is truly important. If someone says airfare is too expensive, they are not online every day waiting for fares to drop. If someone says gas is too expensive, they are not willing to give up lunch for a few days. They are not looking for ways to make it happen because something else is more important than meeting. Simple as that. When my mother had her stroke, i was dead broke, yet i found both the time and the money to go see her. There's nothing wrong with having ones priorities in line. But really, if meeting in person were really important, it can happen.

Chaze -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 3:41:48 AM)
Sweetwenchie: “I do not make a fortune, and have little ones to support, but i would find a way to put money aside to see that person face to face.” I so agree, if money is the issue, then the issue is not the potential partner. Commitments made predicated upon dollars are not commitments, dedication will not be found there either and prolonged internet or telephone interaction equates to nothing more the mental masturbation. Life, passion and desire are about challenge and overcoming what on the surface appears to be obstacles.

MistressOfGa -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 4:27:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHathor *Inspired by thoughts on another thread--the original post is not relevant here as some of the resulting comments that I'd like to hear thoughts about:* To paraphrase: "if two people have been in an online/chatting/ phone relationship for a great deal of time ( lets say 6 months -2 years here for the sake of a stake in the ground) and have not met --chances are it isn't going to happen. Where there is a will there is a way.. Now, I tend to look at the other side of the coin--today in the US, gas is 3.00 a gallon, homes are in foreclosure, credit card debt is over the top, airline tickets are on the rise and train tickets now are almost as much---I believe that there are just people who don't have the money or the opportunity to do it, no matter what the will wants. *Thoughts?* Oh I am deffinately on the "If there is a will, there is a way" side of this. Pup and I had the LDR in the past where he either drove to me or I drovve to him. 200 miles one way, and if he was short on gas money I pitched in, or if I was, he paid for my trip back hoome. When he got his new truck the gas cost went sky high. It was much cheaper for me to drive to Savannah then it was for him to make the trip to me. If there is a will, there is a way? I moved to Savannah to be closer to him, since his obligations with school did not allow him that same opportunity to move closer to me. After I got there, it was just "whoever had the gas money" paid. If there is a will? There is ALWAYS a way. MoGa

lronitulstahp -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 4:35:10 AM)
i had a dom in Europe...(plus two UM's) but we still found a way to spend time IRL...there are amazingly cheap flights to be found...you may have to board at 2:30 a.m on Easter Sunday etc..but it's still possible. Perhaps splitting a fare, or working overtime, or a second part time job to build up a travel fund, depending on your finances...that's where the WILL comes in. If it's really a priority, you'll do what you can to make it happen. And btw... it's not always the Dominant partner's duty to ensure that it happens.

verysweet -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 5:49:07 AM)
quote: To paraphrase: "if two people have been in an online/chatting/ phone relationship for a great deal of time ( lets say 6 months -2 years here for the sake of a stake in the ground) and have not met --chances are it isn't going to happen. Where there is a will there is a way.. I've got a friend who spent the better part of a year and a half ensconced in an online relationship with a man who lived about an hour away. Any time meeting 'irl' was brought up, she was met with resisitance due to his work obligations and never forced the issue. Within weeks of her being relocated several states and hundreds of miles away, he suggested she drive back up and meet him--of course he knew that would be impossible for her. In hindsight, I don't think either of them 'really' wanted to take it to the next level. Some things are better left in a private message, so it seems. My SO lives about 3 hours away, and in 27 months I've had only a couple of instances that made it difficult or impossible to see him on a scheduled visit -- and I have extremely busy 'little ones' and other obligations. So yes, where there is a will, there is definitely a way---sometimes many.

TotalState -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 8:09:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHathor Now, I tend to look at the other side of the coin--today in the US, gas is 3.00 a gallon, homes are in foreclosure, credit card debt is over the top, airline tickets are on the rise and train tickets now are almost as much---I believe that there are just people who don't have the money or the opportunity to do it, no matter what the will wants. *Thoughts?* Now I may only have lived in the US for a couple of years, but even I know how to take a greyhound bus. And chances are, it's not going to make anyone broke.

BlackPhx -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 11:31:20 AM)
I personally have driven, taken a greyhound or flown to meet just about everyone I have talked with seriously online about a relationship. In one case I went to meet a couple in Stockton CA, I paid for 1 way, they were supposed to pay for the ticket home. The airline, messed us up badly, to the tune of putting me in a hotel over night and then shipping me out on another airline with 3 lay overs the next day. Thanks to that I had to take a train then a bus up to Stockton instead of the pick up at the airport we had planned. Things went well for 2 weeks and then blew up badly with a major breech of trust on their part and they renegged on the ticket home. Many people from the alt.Torture newsgroup, worked hard to get me back home, passing me from host to host a week with each, until I hit Vegas, I spent a week there, meeting people I had chatted with for what seemed like ages and made the last of the trip by grayhound back to Florida. I don't regret the effort made to meet these people and hope they found their perfect slave, do regret the failure on their part not to keep their word about the ticket, but then again I would not have met some fantastic people going cross country the hard way. On a very limited income I have met with potential partners in NY, CA, WI, IN, FL, La, TX and Canada. and trust me I do mean limited. Most times it means I have had to take a temp job to pay for the tickets, but I refused to ever not have a return ticket in hand again. It can be done. If there's a whip, there's a way!!! poenkitten

Dnomyar -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 11:54:34 AM)
There is a bottle deposit law here in Michigan and I have a friend who takes her vacations from bottles she collectes. You can collect and sell newspapers to the scrap yard. Same with Metals. Mow lawns, shovel snow. Where there is a will there is a way.

Chaze -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 5:13:47 PM)
You could sell gigger all day long to the broads wanting to scratching their ass. Hell you could get rich selling to the waddlers posting on these boards.

SirJohnMandevill -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 6:35:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHathor *Inspired by thoughts on another thread--the original post is not relevant here as some of the resulting comments that I'd like to hear thoughts about:* To paraphrase: "if two people have been in an online/chatting/ phone relationship for a great deal of time ( lets say 6 months -2 years here for the sake of a stake in the ground) and have not met --chances are it isn't going to happen. Where there is a will there is a way.. Now, I tend to look at the other side of the coin--today in the US, gas is 3.00 a gallon, homes are in foreclosure, credit card debt is over the top, airline tickets are on the rise and train tickets now are almost as much---I believe that there are just people who don't have the money or the opportunity to do it, no matter what the will wants. *Thoughts?* No, I can't agree -- at least, not for me. I need the emotional connection only a face-to-face meeting can bring. I flew out to meet my submissive this weekend after exchanging e-mails and talking on the phone for several months. To accomplish that, I sold more than $400 worth of stuff on EBay for the airline tickets and hotel. If I want a realtionship badly enough, I'll do whatever I have to do to make it happen. Les (Purveyor of Fine, Handcrafted Kink)

subtee -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 6:39:31 PM)
Yay and good on you! I wondered where you've been. Go SJM!

adoracat -> RE: Where there is a will, there is a way, or not (2/12/2008 7:00:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse If you live 100 miles apart and your car gets 25 mpg, thats only about 4 gallons of fuel in the U.S. or about 12 dollars each way. That is not breaking the bank. Anyone can cut a few corners in there everyday life to save 12 bucks a week...If you really want to.. very true. if you arent on a very limited income at the moment. Daddy is, and i know all the reasons he's having difficulties. but thank you. :) kitten

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