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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/13/2008 9:53:23 AM

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If you want 1950-s wife better have at least 6 figure income. They do not go to work outside home. The easiest way to find a suitable candidate: search Asian dating sources.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/13/2008 10:01:09 AM

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Watch "Mad Men" on AMC for a view of it also! :) Although, I think it's technically 60s. But it must be early 60s. I am loving that show.

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I caught up with Mad Men on On Demand and it is a great tv show and probably would give a good glimpse into what it entailed. I still remember when one of the main characters unexpectedly had a colleague home for dinner and the wife had to give her steak to the colleague (since they only had two steaks in the house) and eat a salad instead all the while insisting it was because she was on a diet.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/13/2008 10:23:45 AM

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While we may not be completely alligned with the premise found in "taken in hand" we have found the website to be insightful and has had some informatio that has really help our relationship to grow.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/13/2008 10:38:19 AM

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June Cleaver was out done by Edith Bunker in All In the family. June could manipulate like Mad and Ward was always following her direction in handling the Bever, Wally and Eddie Haskell. Edith until the later shows when she passed through menopause was literally a doormat. Everything for Archie and her family, nothing for her.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/13/2008 2:58:25 PM

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for me the 1950's housewife is more a state of mind than to be cleaning and doing all those maids stuff
housewives from that age, grown up knowing their roles, and knowing their places and am not talking maids, but they know they exist for man's sake to be by his side making his house confortable and giving him kids and taking care of them for him to make make them men like their father and make their father proud of them,
she gives everything to her man, softness, pleasure, and above all she floods him in love and sacrifices! and he gives her his protection and love and leadership to lead her thru this world wich is very hard on a single woman, and I am talking real woman with the charachteristic of women, softness and tenderness and caring! of course it's very different from being dumb or mindless but thats not our subject now

anyway that's my point of view, I hope I answered your question and made it as clear as possible

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/13/2008 5:24:12 PM

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I've read that site before, for some odd reason I always get this wierd visceral shiver-up-my-spine reaction to it, for no reason I can discern. Its not the good kind of shiver, either.

So, are you saying you are squicked by takeninhand?

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/15/2008 3:03:42 PM

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It is most amusing to hear all of these descriptions of the 1950s wives. It is obvious that most of you have no idea of what a 1950s wife was like. Going by what you see on TV doesn't get it. The 1950s wife was pretty much like the wife of today except she was better groomed, not as many worked outside the house, if there were children most felt it was the right thing to do to stay home and take care of them, most did not use as much profanity as is used today and most had more respect from their husbands than they do today.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/15/2008 3:06:59 PM

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Maude was the ultimate wife!

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/15/2008 4:16:02 PM

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It is most amusing to hear all of these descriptions of the 1950s wives. It is obvious that most of you have no idea of what a 1950s wife was like. Going by what you see on TV doesn't get it. The 1950s wife was pretty much like the wife of today except she was better groomed, not as many worked outside the house, if there were children most felt it was the right thing to do to stay home and take care of them, most did not use as much profanity as is used today and most had more respect from their husbands than they do today.

Not according to my mother and aunts who stayed home during that time.

Most of them tell me that they didn't feel there was a choice and that they remembered their young days in the work force fondly. They also hated the fact that they had to cut back on things when the one-income had times of stress or when a husband's union was on strike or the business wasn't doing as well and he got cut back hours.

As for their kids, while they did love them they loved when they started going to school full time even more.

I think you're stuck in the same mass media fantasy of what the 1950s was like.

Most people were not upper middle class. They had to make a choice between following the propaganda of the stay-at-home mom and having that American dream.

Many veterans were suffering from mental and emotional problems from WWII not to mention the new ones from Korea.

How many people had fears fed from the Cold War propaganda?

If you look at police records and school reports, violence and crime were on the rise in the 1950s -- they didn't pop out of nowhere in the 1960s and 1970s.

Apparently abuse of medicines, alcohol and illegal drugs was on the rise across the classes.

How did the country respond? More propaganda about all those dangers, more television and movies about the ideals. Perhaps if the nation has actually done some soul searching and adjusting of sexist and racial stereotypes then the reported turmoil of the 1960s and 1970s wouldn't have happened.

I think that most people prefer to live in their fantasy world though than actually challenge themselves and serious analyze their world. Better the devil you know than the one you don't?

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/20/2008 11:25:02 PM

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Thank you all very much for your answers it is very helpful to me, I am slowly learning more and more and this is something I really did wish to learn about. As i did not grow up any where near the 1950's, my grandmother did but alas i cant ask her anything anymore, hard talking to a headstone, it doesnt really give you answers (i dont mean to sound rude there it is my the way i say it so I dont start to cry) so these have all been helpful to me. Thank you very much

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/21/2008 12:26:19 AM

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i'll go for the 1950's housewife if she wore the sexy stockings with the line back form and the reinforced edges mmmmm... Women also used to look like Women with all there curves and contour... The splendor of the Female with all its Grace!!

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/21/2008 7:51:10 AM

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Well, i was born in the 1950's and my mom was a 1950's wife, with 5 kids altogether. It certainly wasn't a glamorous life. She was expected to stay home and take care of the kids and the inner home, and make it as comfortable for my father as possible. On the other hand, my father worked (sometimes 2 jobs), took care of all the "manly duties" (fixing things, mowing, shoveling, etc, and the household discipline), and he expected a hot meal when he got home. He didn't get up in the middle of the night with us kids nor did he ever change a diaper. And my father had final say over all household matters. And this was basically the same with my relatives, the families in my neighborhood, and with others we associated with (although i'm sure there may have been some who did it differently, but i never knew them).

my mother never graduated from high school and had worked a couple of short term factory jobs before she was married. i don't know that she particularly "chose" her ultimate lifestyle....perhaps she would have preferred venturing out more...but it just wasn't done then....not how they were raised anyway.

It's funny that at my age now, i would not mind this type of existence. i tend to have a strong interest in the Taken in Hand dynamic, Domestic Discipline and the Daddy/girl stuff....moreso than M/s.....but i certainly can't say that has always been the case. I guess you just never know which path life will take you down in the end....and i guess it's just different for all of us.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/21/2008 9:23:00 AM

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I've read that site before, for some odd reason I always get this wierd visceral shiver-up-my-spine reaction to it, for no reason I can discern. Its not the good kind of shiver, either.

So, are you saying you are squicked by takeninhand?

Yes, I was. I'm not saying it's invalid or anything, but it gives off too much of a dogmatic/brainwashing energy that disturbs me down at a core level. Too many gender preconceptions attached to it as well, as far as I can tell very little mention of choice or consent is mentioned either.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/21/2008 9:52:14 AM

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Mom was educated (College Grad, B.A. in Social Services at a time when few Blacks or Indian Women were educated) and was a 50's wife for the first part of the 50's She was uprooted everytime my father changed colleges ( English Professor) no matter how much she liked her job. Despite working just as hard as he did, she also handled all cleaning, cooking (until he discovered she could burn water) and all other household duties including my basic care once I was adopted. Once they were divorced, that full burden fell on her, including trying to get the child support he was ordered to pay. There is very little that I admire about my mother, but her ability to make her way in the world without my Fathers help at a time when single mothers were looked down on and women were paid 1/2 of what a man doing the same job was is something I do admire in her. That she managed to do this in both the south and the north as a professional woman while Indian/Black says a whole HELL of a lot. Life was not easy for her, or for the racially mixed, or any one before the movements of the 60's and 70's in Equal Rights.

The 50's ideal wasn't very far from what you saw in several of the shows mentioned. It was just a lot easier to deal with if you were white, upper middle class to upper class and could afford for him to have only 1 job.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/21/2008 9:59:25 AM

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... and you have to wear house dresses and pearl chokers and remind your husband when you feel he's being too hard on the Beaver.

Those that have never lived in the 50's think it's just a wonderful way to live. You did not choose to be a wife and mother, you were expected too. It was considered a negative reflection on the husband if his wife had to work outside the home. It's also why Valium was invented.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 2/23/2008 12:03:20 AM

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I do not consider racism, sexism and leaving out "stupid and biased parts" of history very smart. You must know your history, the good and the bad, learn from it and not repeat the same mistakes.

Some of us subs actually have college degrees and majored in history, imagine it!

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Hmmm, wonder how african-americans feel re: 1950's housewife style or the 1950's period? Not a great time for women or minorities. It does not seem to co-esixt with the idea of a man that wants somone to exchange in "intellectual discourse" or any of the other similar likes and dislikes in the same venue. 1950's household is a fantasy which you can keep.

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Ah, thankfully, we the have the option of leaving the stupid and biased partswe don't like in the past while the the goods one are kept. The virtues of knowing and understanding history

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 8/19/2008 3:37:35 AM

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Well i will agree with MistressofGA and EvilBreit to me They are both right answers. Women in the 50's life had it easy. Housework is the easy part of taking care of the home. i have lived a 50's lifestyle my whole life even before i knew that i was a submissive. It is natural for me to serve the Man as it should be. But as some have said it is much more than the housework. He needs a reason to come home every night knowing that He has someone waiting for Him at home who loves Him. Give Him something to smile about at work when He looks at the clock on the wall knowing it is almost time to go home. Having an elaborate meal on the table for Him so that when He walks in the door He can smell how a home should smell, and know that His wife did it all to please Him. A woman should take pride in knowing her husband or Dominant is proud of her, it is with that pride that she wants to please Him more and is more submissive in her behavior. But the sitcoms are exactly what they are sitcoms, a script of how Men wanted life to be. Therefore it is a good comparison as that is what some Men want in their relationship. This is just my opinion of how i am and what i believe a womans rold is so take it as such. Thank You for reading it.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 8/19/2008 6:07:24 AM

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My mom married my dad pretty much because he wanted her enough to keep other men away. She had 4 kids, all of us were 4 years apart... which according to her was like their sex life.
He wanted her, but she was not that sexual. She has deep furrows in her brow, along her mouth which is nearly always tightly clenched even though it has been a long time since my dad died.
People promote this happy life of living for their mate, but I didnt see that. What I saw was a trap which they could not escape from until women started working.
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RE: 1950's Wife? - 8/19/2008 6:51:20 AM

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Some people seem to have the idea that there is a strict interpretation of the 1950's household lifestyle. For me, it is more about taking what one wants and adapting it to today's standards and demands. i love the idea of the pearls, prim and proper demeanor, thought out and nicely prepared meals, tidy orderly home and making sure i am well-kept and presentable. But i also work, and have my own financial responsibilities.

i also wanted to address this:
As an African-American, i see no great fault with the 1950's household lifestyle. Ironically enough, though politically and societally turbulent....as far as the black family UNIT, (ie, household) the 1950's were preferable to today. Less broken homes, poverty, and at risk children. More of a stress on higher education, and bettering one's standard of living. So the 1950's black household is actually looked at with a bit of nostalgia. Besides, it would be ignorant to think women and minorities are finished dealing with bigotry and intolerance in the 21st century.

Like with any other facet of wiitwd, the 1950's household, or TIH, Head of Household....anything closely related to that, just as much as M/s D/s TPE...whatever you do, is what the individuals in a relationship make of it.

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RE: 1950's Wife? - 8/19/2008 8:06:29 AM

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I am sure there are many posts on this site about this topic, some of which I have read and not understood. What does it mean to be a 1950's wife? I thought it ment the stay- at-home mother and wife, to cook and bake cookies and clean the house. I am sure there is more to it then that. Any and all help would be great.

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Yeah My Mother is a typical 1950's housewife she did all of this plus handled the finances and made sure Dad did exactly what she wanted. Of course you didn't see that on the outside it was just their little secret. On the outside it appeared as if he was "the man" and she was "the little woman". Most of the older couples I know have it setup that way.

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