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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 6:59:36 AM   
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        Why yes, Mutt, I can tell you the difference.  Since I was interested in possible explanations and interesting theories, instead of "my license is bigger than yours," though, I'm not going to bother.  I think Paricutin is sufficient basis for me tossing the possibility out there in the first post.

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 7:03:29 AM   
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Why is Mt. Saint Helens different from Kilauea?   


I'm not a geologist, but I do play one at archaeological sites sometimes. I guess the main difference that comes to mind is that St. Helens (and the other volcanoes in the Cascade Range) sits over a subduction zone where basaltic oceanic crust from the Juan de Fuca plate is diving under granitic North American plate crust while Kilauea and the rest of the Hawaiian volcanoes/islands result from basaltic oceanic crust of the Pacific plate passing over an upper mantle "hot spot".

So the Mt. St. Helens continental type volcanoes produce lavas that are predominantly rhyolitic (rhyolite is the extrusive, surficial form of granite) emitted from cinder cones and other pointy types of central vent cones (I don't remember what they're called), and the Hawaii type oceanic eruptions produce more viscous basaltic lava that is extruded at a more consistent rate, resulting in shield volcanoes (cuz they look like shields).  

That's all I got.

Bob

ps...(not aimed at you, Muttling) geologists, volcanologists, and climatologists all say "I don't know" about the same amount of times. Climatologists just draw more heat because their observations stand to affect the profits of people and corporations who don't give a fuck about you, me, your mom, or your kids.

(edited because I forgot to mention that basaltic lava is thicker than granitic.)


What happens here then when you are drenched in rhyolitic vs. basaltic lava?
Which one is gonna fry you faster? 

And does a license avert this frying?

See my point you all?

How you doing Bob, ain't seen you much but I ain't been much meself.

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 7:17:34 AM   
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Hi Ron. I am okay, you? I've been pretty busy, in a good way, with work stuff and I live with six cats so life really couldn't be much better.

I don't know which would fry one faster but there is surely at least one M.A. or M.S. thesis dealing with this vital issue.

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 7:24:13 AM   
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What happens here then when you are drenched in rhyolitic vs. basaltic lava?
Which one is gonna fry you faster? 




      Since the rhyolitic is much more likely to produce an explosive pyroclastic flow, while the basaltic will more commonly produce the 'river of lava,' I'd say getting caught in the viscous stuff would be the slightly slower and more horrible death.

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 8:03:20 AM   
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So when it burnt you off at the ankles couldn't you just stump it the fuck on outta the tectonicage?

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 9:11:13 AM   
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   Volcanoes come from molten rock finding it's way to the surface. 




Sooooo      WHERE does this happen?   What happens geologically to allow molten rock to find its what to the surface????


Heck, can you tell me how many different kinds of volcanos there are and where each different kind forms?


Why is Mt. Saint Helens different from Kilauea?   


Basically magma finds its way to the surface through weak spots in the earth's crust. (cracks, fissures, etc in the crust)
Volcano types: In a general overview, we have cone, cinder, composite and shield volcanoes. I could describe in detail each though I'd have to reference my old notes, though this is coming from just a geological technologist  *grin*

edited to add: unfortunately not well versed in volcanology, my area of knowledge is more towards the mining and mineral exploration aspect, with a side interest in gemology!



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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 10:43:41 AM   
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WHO LET THE ROCKS OUT?

Porphyry! Porphyry! Porphyry!

The Bahamen

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 6:35:41 PM   
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      The next time somebody starts whining that all we ever talk about is politics, I'm going to link them to this thread.

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 6:50:29 PM   
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cool.. I learned some stuff today :)

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 6:55:12 PM   
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WHO LET THE ROCKS OUT?

Porphyry! Porphyry! Porphyry!

The Bahamen


That quite a pyroclastic way of staing things!


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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 10:17:35 PM   
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So I might actually get some oceanfront property in Arizona eventually ?

That was not a joke.

T

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 10:38:38 PM   
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        Absolutely, Termy.  And whatever is left of LA and San Diego will wind up as an island off Seattle...  Of course, that will take a few million years.

       One theory is that much of CA may be in the process of becoming part of the Pacific Plate, and that the San Andreas boundary will be 100 miles or more further inland.  The Landers/Big Bear events in 1992 could have been the first step in that.

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 10:40:19 PM   
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Ya know why CA will never fall into the ocean?


'Cause AZ SUCKS!!

*ducks n runs*

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/14/2008 11:58:45 PM   
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Ya know why CA will never fall into the ocean?

'Cause AZ SUCKS!!

*ducks n runs*


Yeah, and that's why it's always so windy in New Mexico. Because Arizona sucks and Texas blows.

Bob

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/15/2008 12:20:27 AM   
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LOL

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RE: Is there a geologist in the house??? - 2/15/2008 7:00:50 AM   
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       Just a note for anyone coming late to the conversation.  The link in the OP is active, the beginning stages of the event will start dropping off today.

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