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favesclava -> RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town (2/15/2008 11:22:43 AM)

i wear a silver thin collar you may see on my profile. you can wear any slide with it. sometimes i change the pentagram to a dog tag. it says collared forever i wear it backwards at work . all my co workers see is a funky edgy necklace.




OmegaG -> RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town (2/15/2008 11:49:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bound2One

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So I understand the need to conformity, I also am feeling like I'm being teleported to an alien world when talking to him about his concerns regarding perceptions. I'm not getting a good feeling for the town when we go shopping or anything, it seems, well, normal as I know it. But he's lived there all his life and he says it's a different world from the city I live in.


Quite honestly, I think you're overthinking it.  Your BIL sounds like he's looking for a reaction even when there isn't one because he's more into the reaction from what he wears than just wearing it naturally, yk?  There is such a thing as being appropriate when dealing with children, and what he wore wasn't appropriate.  Self-expression is all well and good when it only affects the self ... in trying to make people uncomfortable with his naked ladies t-shirt at school, he just looks like an ass. 

Soo.... I'm not sure I'd take his opinion too seriously.  lol  I'm a suburban mom (gasp! lol)  You honestly sound me - I layer everything over camis and wear jeans, trousers, skirts, whatever, underneath.  Lots of black b/c it's slimming, don't ya know.  I do not wear my collar in public.  That's just a personal decision, but Tiffany is more than acceptable in this burb.  lol  But I do wear a necklace Master gave me which symbolizes our relationship - it's just that noone needs to know about it.  There are lots of options in jewelry - I wouldn't go for the obvious, if you question it one bit.  And as you said, perhaps in time you'd feel free breaking out the big guns, once you're more comfortable with the lay of the land. 

One question, and perhaps I'm just a little clueless on this one - what identifies you as 'goth' to the community?  I ask because the way you describe yourself sounds a lot like me, and I'm curious.





I'm not sure what classifies me as "goth" but I hear that I am alot.  It could be my burgandy hair, it could be that my clothes are unique, it could be because I favor heavy eye-makeup and clunky jewelry, I'm really not sure.  I like clothes and I wear what I like and don't think about what it would classify me as when I put it on.

Today I have tall lace up black boots on, with a long flared skirt (that reminds m'Lord of a hobble skirt) a red cami and a sweater that is reminicint of Victorian style with ruffles on the sleeves and below the waiste (the skirt and sweater are black too).  For example.




OmegaG -> RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town (2/15/2008 12:16:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Hissltora

i can appreciate your concern very well, from my current location in a town of 50 people in a tight knit, rural area of the frozen Northern plains. From what i can gather, your Master is quite like my Owner, concerned with public appearance. Sir is not 'hiding' wiitwd...just has no interest in sharing it with others. It's His dynamic, His life...not theirs.

So, moving out here was intimidating, but the way i currently dress is not real hard...i wear jean skirts or jeans, polo shirts or nice girlie-tshirts. And my collar is reserved for the bedroom (with ums running around) but i do wear a stainless steel anchor link bracelet that NEVER comes off, and a textured-chain necklace with a heart pendant. It sits close to my neck, has a heft to it, and no one thinks twice about it being anything other than a pretty piece of jewelry. It isn't necessarily a lock or anything that makes it a collar, in this house...it's the intent.
 
The same goes for my religion...as an earth witch, I don't want the neighbors to try and convert me, but i don't really want to rub their noses in my life either. You do your thing, and i'll do mine, is the mantra around the rural plains. As long as i don't 'flaunt' my differences and instead focus on how we are all the same, i blend in really well. 
 
Looking back at this, i'm not sure i made any sense, but it's damn cold here and almost to gloomy to think straight.
 
Wish you well and walk tall,
 
slave tora, devoted to Sir N


You made sense to me ;)




Bound2One -> RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town (2/15/2008 12:37:08 PM)

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Today I have tall lace up black boots on, with a long flared skirt (that reminds m'Lord of a hobble skirt) a red cami and a sweater that is reminicint of Victorian style with ruffles on the sleeves and below the waiste (the skirt and sweater are black too). For example.


That sounds very pretty to me!  I guess I could see how the whole package of heavier makeup, burgundy hair, darker clothes, could classify someone, though I wouldn't 'go there' myself.  I'd just figure the woman had a sense of style, yk?  So many people don't and are so bland so that if you're not, it stands out a bit.  I'm generally envious of those who are well put together with their clothes, make up and jewelry, regardless of what their look is - corporate, casual, whatever.  I never quite manage the full package.  lol 




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town (2/15/2008 5:13:56 PM)

Well, you have the advantage of being a female in service to a male. For a very religious town, that's a plus and you can play on it. Also, the lock for your collar can be put in the BACK, so it's hidden by a shirt with a collar.

There are options for you collar. He can go with a very dainty looking lock and you can explain with, "He's got the keys to my heart." He can choose an eternity collar that is put on with an allen wrench which he then carries, but it has not lock, per say. Or, what about some sort of necklace that soldered shut?

Master Fire




Hissltora -> RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town (2/15/2008 7:27:32 PM)

Greetings, MasterFire,
 
i was just thinking the same thing after i retrieved the mail today. i have had a few old-timers (especially the ladies) comment on how nice it was to see the 'young people' returning to family values. i am lucky to be able to fit into that 1950's type household...i cook, garden, raise the kids and tend house whilst He is off makin' the bacon, so to speak.
 
If only they knew the entire truth. :) But then again, i guess that suggests i'm playing chameoleon fairly well. Your suggestions for hiding the locks are very good, but what would one who wore their hair up all the time or had a short cut do?  Not all of womens shirts have collars for collars. [:D]
 
Be well and walk tall,
slave tora, devoted to Sir N





rubberpet -> RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town (2/16/2008 2:52:28 AM)

I know the collar Mistress is getting me is of a chain and lock variety, but I'm not one to give a flying shit what strangers will think of the collar adorning my neck anyway.  It has the same meaning to me as a wedding band, but with a few extra meanings.  I'll be proud and honored to have Her collar locked around my neck.  Besides, Mistress already has plans to lock me in just my catsuit and parade me around on the end of Her leash.  Something tells me if I'm wearing just my catsuit in public and I'm on Her leash, I don't think too many people will really notice just the collar.  LOL




TysGalilah -> RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town (2/16/2008 9:38:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: OmegaG

this has been rattling around in my mind for a while.

I grew up in a small town, but when I was there I didn't care if I "fit in" or not, then I moved to a liberal college town where fashion is a statement not a trend (meaning there is alot of self expression here and I'm fairly moderate in comparison).  The move I am planning on making in a few months is to a conservative smaller town with a strong religious base.  m'Lord wants a collar, he wants it to be a real collar with a lock, not just symbolic but he is concerned about how it and I would be percieved in the community.

It makes me wonder about my appearence as well.  Like I said, here I am moderate, but in the town I grew up in I was and would be now considered edgier, and if I was moving back there I wouldn't care as most who live there already know me and wouldn't be making an initial judgement based on appearance.  But in the new town I would have to meet new people, the nieghbors and such and I would be looking for a job, interacting with the school system.

I've seriously never thought about clothing nearly as much as I am now...

My "style" is basic, I favor black clothes but not exclusively, anyone who's commented on it says that I am normal with a "goth" edge.  I favor layers, camisoles with a jacket or cardigan over it usually.  Jeans, skirts, or dress pants, this fits with the casual business code for working at the University.

I guess I'm wondering if he (and I, now) are making much ado about nothing.  Would people not in the know be taken aback if I had a metal choker looking peice of jewelry on my neck with a lock?  Is it possible that they wouold be uptight about people who don't conform to the social uniform of the local society?

Do I think too much?




Omega,
everyone has already given you great ideas and things to think about...
I wanted to also add that "a collar" doesn't have to be the kind worn on the neck.
Some people, including me, have other forms of a permanent collar...and then a neck worn collar for home or playtime..

Mine is a beautiful earring that Tyson picked out and he pierced into the 3rd position of my left ear. The moment he pierced it there will remain one of the most meaningful moment of my life.  It is his collar and he placed it where he wanted it.  It means possession and a part of him that I always have on me ... and it never comes off.
IMO  it is the significance behind the collar rather than the look or type of collar. 
So what works for each, is really what matters.

Having said that> I agree with others, you might be worried about nothing.. various types of jewelry are now common and don't necessarily standout as much as you might fear they will.







lronitulstahp -> RE: Clothes/Collars in a Conservative Town (2/16/2008 11:32:17 AM)

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 to run the perfect, happy,  2.4 children, one cat one dog and 3 hamsters and a goldfish type home, bake my own cakes and make my own curtains, and upset the other mums because my children's PE kit is so much *whiter* than theirs ....

there is definate appeal in appearing to the world as one lifted directly out of the 1950s ... and being the worst kind of depraved temptress once the washing up has been finished

*skips off whitsling to check on her banana bread* 

Heyyy!!! that's my kink!!!!




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