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-teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 8:09:29 AM

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http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080212-ap-teen-sirens.html

i never heard of sirens only under 20 can hear

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 8:16:48 AM

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There's a fallacy at the heart of this.

Perhaps some people over 20 have lost a portion of their hearing, in the upper registers, from listening to too much loud music for too many years. But there are those who have not lost that portion of their hearing, and for them a ssiren in the upper registers is going to be, not just annoying, but painful.

>>edited to add: So the sirens will drive away children, the tone-deaf, and those who just don't like loud music. Rather too broad a spectrum, IMO. Better to spend the money on providing activities for these young people.<<

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 9:12:57 AM

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Yep, they've been using those for years now.
The work pretty well.

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 9:39:46 AM

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As much as I hate to say this- but .... ,,,err were do I buy one?

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 9:40:58 AM

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it might not be any worse then tire spikes if you drive the wrong way into a parking garage.

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 9:44:58 AM

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For the sake of interest, I had one of the 'mosquito' high pitched tones on my mobile phone for a while to observe it's effects.

True, it does work and does affect the younger and appears long range. Something I could just about hear got me the wrath of a bar maid in my local pub.

When I asked of the effects of the noise, which I was surprised had travelled so far,( from the beer garden at the back of the pub to the bar at the front). I was told the lady had felt it rather than heard it and it bringing on a sense of nausea, something quite horrible with the feeling of need to get away.

So yes, the 'mosquito' siren does work in deterring under twenty year olds, but the question is , is it right, why should someone who is of that age and might be minding their own business be put through this torment.It is indescriminate in it's effects.

Oh, animals can hear it too, the pub cats, normally a lap parasite runs away fast in distress.

If these things are to be banned in public, sad to think it might be the effect on animals which might cause the ban.

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 10:16:28 AM

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alot of things are not fair. do you think the powers that be will have any hesistation in using this? no. tasers, pain guns, it is a brave new world. those with knowledge will survive those w/o might not.

cancer dump sites in poor nrighborhoods. leaded toys but not in my house. monsanto that fricken modifies crop seed so as to make ecoil if royalty isnt paid. thats the world as it is becoming. we can argue and discuss ethiscs...at the end of the day we as a culture are heading this direction..likeit or not. it all trickles down. rfids.

ugliness isnt anything new.

i can see a practical use for this. i had some ''' playing chicken outside my place a busy street. i aint cleaning upthe blood.

anyhow i suppose one could wear ear plugs. as intrusive as the modern world is- it is logical

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 10:39:00 AM

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Also in this day and age is people taking action against those things that offend them.

The high piched tones can be located, the bar maid I offended, I asked how she knew where the tone, which incidently was ten seconds long, was coming from.

Simple says she, just follow the tone, the more offensive it gets the nearer you are.

Strikes me as something emitting these sounds will be found and destroyed if they become common place.

I know, if it were me who was so afflicted, I would seek and destroy the cause.

A threat of getting barred from the pub was effective enough for me to see the error of my ways and there delete the tone as being trouble I did not want.

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 11:21:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SubbieOnWheels

There's a fallacy at the heart of this.

Perhaps some people over 20 have lost a portion of their hearing, in the upper registers, from listening to too much loud music for too many years. But there are those who have not lost that portion of their hearing, and for them a ssiren in the upper registers is going to be, not just annoying, but painful.

>>edited to add: So the sirens will drive away children, the tone-deaf, and those who just don't like loud music. Rather too broad a spectrum, IMO. Better to spend the money on providing activities for these young people.<<

I thought it was a well known fact that hearing deteriorates as we get older, I've protected my hearing but I can't hear women when they are talking to me in their high pitched voices.

The only thing wrong with this device is that it is indiscriminate so even young children and babies will be affected.

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 4:39:00 PM

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What if a family walks in with thier kiddies.. should thier kids feel the discomfort while they shop because the shopkeeper can't be bugged with teenagers? I know if I ever found out that some shop keeper was usuing such a device I would personaly slap the shit out of him. I have a 10 year old. He doesnt deserve to be treated as a second class citizen because some one doesnt like kids. I also can hear alarm systems and high pitched frequentcys so it would prob. drive me away as well. I do not think it is fair at all. If you do not like kids in your store... post a 2 at a time limit like the stores here do. No one deserves to be picked on because of something they can not control such as thier race, age, creed, color.. ect. I think elderly people shouldnt use the public toliets... they always piss on the seats.. and never flush.. but you dont see me wanting a ban. It's ridiculous.

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RE: -teen-sirens.html - 2/14/2008 5:14:16 PM

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..public spaces should be public spaces. the whole topic makes me wonder that maybe this happens where we dont know about it. I am sorry if I sounded snotty. The modern world is perplexing. I spent a few hours trying to print 1 page. No success. The ice floating on the river is pretty.

I shudder to think of this world in 20 years. lovely a freaken car alarm now blaring

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