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EvilGeoff -> An Appeal For Your Help (9/13/2005 9:36:49 PM)

Ladies and Gentlemen, Leather Friends and Family,

I've returned from my recent trip to Baltimore and the NCSF annual meeting
with a renewed sense of purpose and a fire in my belly. I also have mixed
feelings of desperation and hope. Desperation because until this weekend I
did not realize how close to the financial edge that the NCSF is operating,
hope because there is a light at the end of the tunnel, which I will explain
later.

With a humble heart I come to you this evening to ask a huge favor of you.
Not for myself, not for the families who have lost everything in the recent
hurricane disaster, not for a leather family in need.

I'm asking for your help on behalf of a nation that doesn't even realize it
needs help.

I'm asking on behalf of the millions of our leather brothers and sisters who
remain silent about their desires and lifestyle choices out of fear of
reprisal.

I'm asking on behalf of the millions of poly-family members who can't insure
the partners they can't legally marry.

I'm asking on behalf of the millions of swingers who have their clubs raided
and shut down and their members arrested because of over-zealous prosecutors
looking to make a name for themselves.

I'm asking on behalf of YOU, my brothers, sisters, friends and family in
leather.

In the United States today we live in a social climate that is increasing
conservative and with federal and sometimes state and local agencies that
are finding it easier and easier to cave in to pressure from ultra
conservative, religiously based special interest groups. Because of the
great strides our gay and lesbian friends have made in their struggle to
have their rights recognized, to get out of the closet and achieve
mainstream tolerance, we, the leather, poly and swing communities, have
become the new "boogeyman". We who practice alternative sexuality are "the
enemy". We, who have done nothing more than decide for ourselves who and
what makes us happy and whole, are the next big target because we are
"different".

Folks, the NCSF, the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom, stands as both
sentinel and voice for our alternative lifestyle communities. In 2004, the
NCSF responded to over 740 requests for assistance. To date in 2005, NCSF
has responded to well over 300 requests, ranging from the highly public
lawsuits against the Communications Decency Act and the increased
restrictions of U.S.C. Title 18, Section 2257 (the record keeping
requirements extending to secondary providers of sexually explicit content),
to child custody, divorce, and domestic violence cases that never make the
paper. So far this year, the NCSF has performed 46 Educational Outreach
presentations to swing, poly and BDSM groups, and civil authorities.

The NCSF has always operated on a shoestring budget but this year, expenses
have increased while income has decreased. Two of the NCSF's _MAJOR_
fundraising efforts this year (including BR!) aren't happening. That's a
loss of over $20,000 dollars in 4th quarter income alone. Using current
budget figures and what's in the bank, NCSF has just a wee tad more than 1
month's operating capital. Yes, it's that bad. NCSF has helped our
community until there is nothing left to help with.

There _is_ a light at the end of the tunnel. There are exciting plans
underway now for some major changes that should provide additional funding
AND additional opportunities to build bridges within our diverse
communities. I don't have much more information than that, but this won't
happen until mid-November at the earliest. And NCSF needs our help NOW to
get through the next few months.

How can you help? There are several ways:

1) JOIN THE NCSF AS AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER. As a member of T3WD or other
Coalition Partner group, you can join for as little as $10.00 a year. Go to
the NCSF web site, http://www.ncsfreedom.org/membership/CP_Indiv_app.htm and
fill out the application. Be sure to list T3WD as the Coalition Partner you
are a member of, unless you are the member of another NCSF Coalition
Partner. If you do not belong to a group that is a Coalition Partner, go to
http://www.ncsfreedom.org/membership/Indiv_app.htm Membership is $25/year,
but remember, this goes almost entirely to education, outreach, and
services. The NCSF only has 1 paid employee, EVERYONE else is a volunteer!

2) Donate directly to the NCSF. Donate to either the General Fund or to the
Communcations Decency Act Defense Fund. The attornies fighting that battle
are doing it pro bono (for free), but there are still filing fees, document
fees, court costs, expenses for expert witnesses, etc. that HAVE to be paid.
Supreme Court battles are EXPENSIVE. Go to
http://www.ncsfreedom.org/howtopay.htm to make an online unrestricted
donation.

3) Come to the T3WD Vendor's Fair and stop by the Fund Raiser Table. We'll
be raffling off items, a scene with ME (and yes, I'll bottom for a good
cause, or Top you, winners choice, negotations will follow!), and I will
have some NCSF bumper stickers, window clings, and PINS (I have 10 pins, buy
'em all and I'll get more!). ALL PROCEEDS TO GO TO NCSF. T3WD will send
the check, but you will have something nifty to go home with and the
knowledge that you have done a great good.

4) If you can't come to T3WD's Vendor Fair, get to some event that's doing a
fundraiser like the Folsom Street Fair or Folsom Fringe. Or even better yet,
encourage YOUR group to hold it's own NCSF fundraiser.

Ladies and gentlemen, I wouldn't ask you for this if it wasn't important.
We all need to pitch in and get the NCSF over the hump or we may lose the
most effective voice we kinksters have ever had in our corner.

Yours In Kink,
- Geoff
T3WD - http://www.t3wd.org
NCSF - http://www.ncsfreedom.org




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/13/2005 11:45:40 PM)

Geoff- was great meeting you this weekend and good to see you were inspired too!




lonewolf05 -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 6:14:39 AM)

since "I" am not "leather" folk,........."I" do not underastand any of this. if i said please.......can ya explain all this in simple english? i have no idea what all this is about.......it all sounds greek to me.

and whats with the $10? does that help the cause or is more needed to actually tip the scales?

thanks
the wolf, scratchin his head with his paw.......chasing his tail......





EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 6:31:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

since "I" am not "leather" folk,........."I" do not underastand any of this. if i said please.......can ya explain all this in simple english? i have no idea what all this is about.......it all sounds greek to me.

NCSF is basically a political/activist group that helps raise awareness, education, and support for alternative lifestyles. This can mean running education courses on how to plan a financial future for a polyamorous family, it can mean legal support for custody cases where S&M is a factor, it can mean changing laws to make it illegal to lose your job just because you are in an alternative relationship.

quote:


and whats with the $10? does that help the cause or is more needed to actually tip the scales?

Trust me, in this case, every little bit helps.




ProtagonistLily -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 6:53:49 AM)

quote:

since "I" am not "leather" folk,........."I" do not underastand any of this. if i said please.......can ya explain all this in simple english? i have no idea what all this is about.......it all sounds greek to me.

and whats with the $10? does that help the cause or is more needed to actually tip the scales?

thanks
the wolf, scratchin his head with his paw.......chasing his tail......


One wonders what the hell you are, if you are not 'leather-folk'? You claim to be an owned slave, yet you deny that you are part of the greater leather/BDSM community. You claim to have an alternative lifestyle, yet you seem to be trying to instigate against those of us who are very much like you.

If you want to live in your own little sanitized world and simply close your eyes and chase your tail, that's your business. However, if you actually EDUCATED yourself and learned about who has been advocating for your rights, you might have better things to do than simply chew the burrs out of your fur.

Lily




Elegant -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 7:09:30 AM)

What NCSF can offer you DIRECTLY!

The Legal Education Outreach Program (LEOP) currently has the following presentations available for the SM community (and other alternative lifestyle communities) by LEOP representatives.

Presentations

SM Groups & Law Enforcement: Group Issues
It is important that SM-Leather-Fetish groups understand the relationship between the SM community and law enforcement authorities, as well as the numerous legalities that can affect group functions. Once this is accomplished, groups can dispel myths, educate members, and constructively interact with law enforcement as the need arises. This presentation will focus on three aspects: (1) interacting with local law enforcement, (2) avoiding legal trouble, and (3) group considerations.

The Alleged Domestic Violence Call
It is important for SM-Leather-Fetish practitioners to understand law enforcement and the numerous legal issues that can affect us - specifically the response to an alleged domestic violence call. Once this is accomplished, you can constructively interact with law enforcement officers if the need arises. This presentation will focus on two aspects: (1) constructively dealing with officers, and (2) avoiding legal trouble. This workshop does not deal with the "cycle of abuse" or actual domestic violence; instead it is about consensual SM being misinterpreted as domestic violence by law enforcement.

Zoning for SM & Swing Groups and Businesses
Zoning and permit issues are commonly used by local governments to attack the businesses or parties of SM and swing groups. It is much more difficult for police, prosecutors and courts to prosecute crimes" such as indecent exposure, lewd conduct, etc. Therefore zoning and permit violations are used to either move or shut down SM or swing activities because these administrative issues appear to be unambiguous and non-discriminatory. It is important for our communities to have an understanding of these administrative issues in order to safely organize and maintain SM, fetish, and swing events. Zoning and permits vary greatly depending on jurisdiction, so this discussion identifies and addresses the common issues in an overview fashion and suggests how to address the particulars.

Approaching Your Local Authorities
The purpose of this presentation is to help groups educate law enforcement, prosecutors, and other authorities about SM-Leather-Fetish or swing practices. NCSF's goal in presenting this material is to encourage local groups to develop a positive relationship with their local authorities. The content and delivery method of the outreach presentation are designed on a case-by-case basis. We suggest that local groups work together when presenting this information to officials.

Swing Groups & Law Enforcement: Group Issues
It is important for swing groups and businesses to have an understanding of the relationship between the swing community and law enforcement, as well as the numerous legalities that can effect group functions. Once this is accomplished, your group can dispel myths, educate members, and constructively interact with law enforcement as the need arises. This presentation will focus on three aspects: (1) interacting with local law enforcement, (2) avoiding legal trouble, and (3) group considerations.

Life & Death Issues for the Alternative Community
This presentation assists those who practice alternative sexual expression in understanding more about the legal issues involving their relationships. People who are involved in dedicated relationships outside of the traditional "heterosexual-marriage-with-children" often acquire property and incur liabilities together. Yet many fail to realize that these relationships will eventually end; either from separation, or as a result of death or disability. This presentation addresses some of the issues and problems that might be encountered, and gives guidance on how to prepare for them.

Traveling With Toys
While there have always been security issues involved in travel, the current political climate, as well as new legislation, has changed the procedures used to achieve security, as well as changing the allowable items to be carried with the traveler. Security measures have been heightened as never before - to the point of creating a legal risk to individuals who practice alternative sexual expression for traveling with items that are commonplace for us. This presentation will address these issues and provide tips for traveling with toys.

Protecting Yourself Legally
Members of the SM/leather/fetish communities have always had some level of concern regarding the issues of privacy, discretion, and personal security. The Radical Right, employers, ex-partners, and others may pose threats to these concepts. Many times their motivation comes from ignorance, but new motivations like custody of children, and revenge are also becoming commonplace. This presentation provides tips for protecting yourself legally for various circumstances.

Protecting Your Event
There are many considerations organizers must contend with when planning a large event. Large events include educational and social conferences, leather contests, weekend play parties, vendor markets, swing events and club run0s. In light of recent attacks by religious and political extremists, here are some suggested guidelines for protecting your event and attendees.

Doing SM Related Legal Research
The law is interpreted - sometimes to our favor, and sometimes not. For example, while the NCSF firmly believes that consensual SM activity between adults is legal, there are those that have a differing opinion and will intentionally interpret the law in an unfavorable way. Therefore, it is extremely important for the SM-Leather-Fetish communities to have an understanding of the laws that may affect us. Knowing relevant laws will greatly assist our communities in safely organizing and maintaining SM-Leather-Fetish activities and functions. This presentation attempts to help those doing research navigate the sometimes complex waters that we find ourselves in legally.

Child Custody & Divorce: Considerations for Alternative Lifestyles
(in development)




ledastray -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 9:09:56 AM)



This isn't just not a 'good' cause .. it's not a cause at all.





Elegant -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 10:07:05 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ledastray



This isn't just not a 'good' cause .. it's not a cause at all.





Can you clarify your statement please?




Nuke718 -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 11:32:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Elegant


quote:

ORIGINAL: ledastray



This isn't just not a 'good' cause .. it's not a cause at all.





Can you clarify your statement please?


I'll second that. It sounds like you are saying tha people shouldn't give to this organization. BUT you could be saying (altho in a difficult to follow fashion) thats it's bigger than a cause and we all need to pitch in.

I have never needed their servuces, but have attended som of their educational seminars. And I have contributed to the general fund in the past as an individual and as part of a lifestyle group. But I hadn't checked up on the NCSF since returning to my roots recently, and was unaware they were in these dire straits.

They are a great cause, for anybody that engages consensually in any type of non-mainstream sex or love relationship.

Nuke }:-




OrlandoDave -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 2:42:13 PM)

That was a little harsh ProtagonistLily, does someone have to be into leather to be a slave? I have had several wonderful m/s d/s relationships and the only leather I wear is when I'm riding my motorcycle and my slaves/subs have never been into leather either. You say Wolf “claims” this and “claims” that, just because he was asking about the organization? We don’t have to be “part of the greater leather/BDSM community” to enjoy what we enjoy. I have had private personal relationships my whole life, vanilla or otherwise. That doesn’t make my world “sanitized” just because we keep it in the home. Maybe I’m not EDUCATED like you, but the constitution does my advocating, I’m “secure in my home” and no government is going to take that away.
Maybe I just don’t understand your point, since I can reconcile being a conservative, religious AND enjoying the kind of sex and lifestyle that I enjoy.




Elegant -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 3:08:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: OrlandoDave

I have had several wonderful m/s d/s relationships and the only leather I wear is when I'm riding my motorcycle and my slaves/subs have never been into leather either.


Sir,
Being 'leather' is not about wearing leather. It is what is in your heart and soul.


quote:

ORIGINAL: OrlandoDave
We don’t have to be “part of the greater leather/BDSM community” to enjoy what we enjoy. I have had private personal relationships my whole life, vanilla or otherwise. That doesn’t make my world “sanitized” just because we keep it in the home.


This is true but do realize that in being here at CM you have moved a part of your private life into public and made a step outside your home. What happens if our government decides that sites such as CM are illegal and must be shut down?


quote:

ORIGINAL: OrlandoDave

... but the constitution does my advocating, I’m “secure in my home” and no government is going to take that away.Maybe I just don’t understand your point, since I can reconcile being a conservative, religious AND enjoying the kind of sex and lifestyle that I enjoy.


May I suggest that you visit the NCSF website and browse the many news articles regarding people who 'kept it private' but have been persecuted by law enforcement officials, religious right organizations, ex-spouses, miffed partners etc. http://www.ncsfreedom.org/

The Constitution is but a piece of paper. People advocate and hopefully people will advocate their right to what is written on the Constitution and the Amendments.








EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 3:09:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: OrlandoDave

That was a little harsh ProtagonistLily, does someone have to be into leather to be a slave? I have had several wonderful m/s d/s relationships and the only leather I wear is when I'm riding my motorcycle and my slaves/subs have never been into leather either. You say Wolf “claims” this and “claims” that, just because he was asking about the organization? We don’t have to be “part of the greater leather/BDSM community” to enjoy what we enjoy. I have had private personal relationships my whole life, vanilla or otherwise. That doesn’t make my world “sanitized” just because we keep it in the home. Maybe I’m not EDUCATED like you, but the constitution does my advocating, I’m “secure in my home” and no government is going to take that away.
Maybe I just don’t understand your point, since I can reconcile being a conservative, religious AND enjoying the kind of sex and lifestyle that I enjoy.

Dave, I can understand your issues with Lily's harshness..she certainly can be and makes no apologies for it (we're kinda similar like that), but Lone has a large history of being petulant and elitist about his asexual/non affiliated status and almost only says "That's not me, doesn't apply to me" and only on very rare occasions makes an actual contribution to the discussion.

I think it's great that you can do what you do in private, and no you certainly don't have to go to a club to be kinky or wear leather to be a slave. But NCSF is there to help people who have REAL legal trouble, who have REAL medical needs- because for many of us, even if we OURSELVES are completely content with our orientations, we must interact with those who are not, and those who would try and take away what we feel is right for us to have. That is why I support NCSF, even if I were never kinky, if I ever had a son or daughter who wanted to BE kinky, I'd want them to be in a world where it would be a bit easier for them to simply be who they are.




JohnWarren -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 3:32:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: OrlandoDave
Maybe I’m not EDUCATED like you, but the constitution does my advocating, I’m “secure in my home” and no government is going to take that away.
Maybe I just don’t understand your point, since I can reconcile being a conservative, religious AND enjoying the kind of sex and lifestyle that I enjoy.


I could give you a long list of people who felt they were "secure in their home." It's a warm cuddly feeling and isn't worth squat when the government decides it wants to take a good look at just what is there.

People have lost their children to foster care; they have lost their jobs and have been put through hell because some good moral person decided they were "perverts."

Take a look at the website and see the situations where NCSF has offered its assistance and see if you can't identify with some of those folks.




OrlandoDave -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 4:55:58 PM)

These are good points. I don't know Wolf's history, I just read his post for what it said. If Wolf and Lily have a history, I certainly didn't mean to stick my nose in.
As for my security, it isn’t a warm cuddly feeling, it is something I value greatly and protect, both physically and with the ballot box.
I am not intimately aware of NCSF, but will try to become such.
I respect JohnWarren and EmeraldSlave2 very much, I see your posts almost everywhere and always enjoy what you have to say.
Thanks for responding, and I will look into NCSF more carfully.
Dave




Synocense -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 5:07:42 PM)

Here is a short story that I would like to share....

Just before I began the divorce proceedings from my husband, (we had been separated for several years already) he learned of my lifestyle. Suddenly, I was a horrible mother to our son and a danger to everyone I came in contact with and he was going to destroy my life as I knew it. I contacted someone from NCSF and within a week, the entire situation has been defused. Do you know why? Because an advocate of NCSF worked with me directly and helped me find the right words/tools in which to deal with this matter. Fortunately, they were there, otherwise all of my ex husbands threats could have become a reality.

I am a long time member of Tucsons local BDSM club. We recently, as a group, joined
NCSF. They were there when I need them and it simply feels good to give back.

Syn




EvilGeoff -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 8:28:19 PM)

I just wanted to take a moment to say a heartfelt "thank you" to Emerald (nice meeting you too!), the esteemed Mr. Warren, Elegant, Lily and Synocense for so eloquently and thoroughly explaining what NCSF is about.

Thanks too, to Wolf and Dave, because without your questioning, there wouldn't have been a reason or excuse to further explain what NCSF is and does. We are here to protect your rights as a consenting adult to engage in the kinds of living and loving that you and your consenting adult partner agree to.

Legal decisions like Lawrence v. Texas are important to your privacy, and things like Barbara Nitke and NCSF's lawsuit against the CDA and the fight over the provisions of section 2257 we are waging alongside the Free Speech Coalition are vital if we are to keep the government out of our websites and homes. You do NOT let the camel get it's nose in your tent....

YIK,
- Geoff
T3WD's Rep to the NCSF and damn proud of it!




JohnWarren -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 9:16:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: EvilGeoff
Legal decisions like Lawrence v. Texas are important to your privacy, and things like Barbara Nitke and NCSF's lawsuit against the CDA and the fight over the provisions of section 2257 we are waging alongside the Free Speech Coalition are vital if we are to keep the government out of our websites and homes. You do NOT let the camel get it's nose in your tent....


Damn, thanks for mentioning that. People should be aware that if some of the laws now being challenged are enforced. There's a good chance that CollarMe and sites like it will be a thing of the past.

This sort of thing can affect each of YOU!





BlkTallFullfig -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 9:34:45 PM)

Well thanks all for the information. I can't say I was familiar with the organization and it's mission until reading this, so it was good to learn. M




girl4you2 -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/14/2005 10:33:48 PM)

another thank you for posting the information on this organization.




EvilGeoff -> RE: An Appeal For Your Help (9/17/2005 12:36:49 AM)

I'm really pleased with the attention this has received. Y'all are great!

For those who've joined or donated to NCSF... THANK YOU!

YIK,
- Geoff




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