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FangsNfeet -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/15/2008 10:02:30 PM)

It's a general rule that Horror Movie remakes are okay to do.

Dracula in 1992 had an aswome cast. Gary Oldman and Anthony Hopkins. And to think, Keanu Reeves actually acted in it.

I'm a big fan of most of the Strokers Dracula movie makes.  However, I still question Clint Eastwood playing the villianous role.

When it comes to Frankinstien, I really do think that Rober De Niro did one hell of a job playing the part.

At the top of my head, I can't think of a Horror Movie that is better off not be remade due to it being such a big clasic.






sweetwenchie -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/15/2008 10:07:48 PM)

i think with the advancements in special effects, and having had a few decades to see perfect the art of fear the majority of horror movies that have been remade were done quite well.  Other than The Fog.. which was deplorable!  It was not the changes he made, those seemed to be him having a large number of years to look back and see what he would have done differently, it was more that it seemed to wander too much, was disjointed at times. 

For the most part though i agree with you, horror movies are a genre that does not seem to suffer as much when being remade.



GreedyTop -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/15/2008 10:08:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sweetwenchie

lol  Yes, there was a remake of The Blob done in the late 80's... had Kevin Dillon in it, the original had Steve McQueen, came out in the late 50's

Okay, so i'm a movie nerd [8|]


Somehow, I can't see a remake of the Blob being better than the original (although, admittedly, I haven't seen it).
Some movies just should NOT be done in color... LOL



sweetwenchie -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/15/2008 10:10:06 PM)

The remake was...  very 80's.   i think that is all i'm going to say about it!  lol 



GreedyTop -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/15/2008 10:13:26 PM)

loll wenchie..'nuff said ;)



happypervert -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/15/2008 10:17:58 PM)

I'll take Warhol's Frankenstein over the original.

Also Herzog's Nosferatu over the original.

And not movies, but I really like the new Outer Limits shows. I wouldn't say they are better than the originals, but they aren't cheap imitations like a lot of remakes either.

Otherwise, can't think of any good remakes.



Hottiegurl -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/15/2008 10:31:06 PM)

I love old movies.  I get mad when they put color to them.  Only thing I like is when they are put on widescreen.  I am a wuss to watch scary movies but I do like "The Day the Earth Stood Still"  Patricia O'Neal and Michael Rainey were great.  I dream in color and have enough nightmares I do not need any more help.
 
I just love Turner Classic Movies.  Use to like American Movie Channel but they put commercials in grrrrrrrrrrrr.  Plus they are putting newer films on.  I still watch but not as much.



Honsoku -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/15/2008 11:00:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

I think most people don’t like remakes because the original takes on a nostalgic aura. We watch the originals in our younger days (there we are in the theater with our friends, jacked up on Jolt cola and Milk Duds – life was good) and so they takes us back there when we watch them again. A remake doesn’t have that nostalgic aura and so seems like a cheap copy in comparison.


This is certainly a factor. Though, speaking as a person who frequently sees the remakes first, I have found that I enjoy the originals over the remakes the vast majority of the time. However, my tastes are a little strange.



Level -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 2:58:10 AM)

One that has gotten rave reviews is 3:10 To Yuma; I still haven't seen the new one yet.
 
A horrible idea was having Steve Martin do a Pink Panther movie.... [:o]
 
The Longest Yard remake sucked.....




slaveboyforyou -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 3:24:55 AM)

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One that has gotten rave reviews is 3:10 To Yuma; I still haven't seen the new one yet. 


I liked 3:10 to Yuma.  It was really well done IMO.  But I have never seen the original one.  I never even bothered with Steve Martin in Pink Panther.  I totally agree with you on the Longest Yard; it was a total turkey.



Manawyddan -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 4:03:21 AM)

I usually prefer the originals to the remakes.

I don't think Superman and Batman (and Dracula, also mentioned) are good examples, though. These aren't remakes of specific films; they're the latest in a whole chain of adaptations of major media properties. Some of them have been good, some have been bad. And that'll continue to be the case for further Supermand and Batman projects down the road.



RealityLicks -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 4:23:26 AM)

Sometimes directors remake their own films, like Michael Mann did with Heat - which was a TV movie first - or like Roberto Rodriquez did with El Mariachi/ Desperado.  Michael Haneke has just remade Funny Games with Naomi Watts and Tim Roth because he made the original 10 years ago in Austrian German and wants it to have a wider audience.

I don't think there's anything wrong with remaking someone else's idea as long as significant and desirable changes are made.  Although, to contradict my own argument, I loved Antonioni's Blow Up but thought Brian De Palma's Blow Out, while slight is fun in its way, so why not?

My favourite remake has to be The Beat That My Heart Skipped by Jacques Audiard.  Its a remake of Fingers by James Toback and one hell of a thriller - a bit reminiscent of early Scorcese.



FangsNfeet -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 5:45:02 AM)

Comic book heroes and Master Villians from horor films almost have to be remade now and then. Comic Books themselves almost have to be reborn to keep up with modern times. The Punisher can no longer say he fought in the Viet Nam war. Comic Book series get re written now and then meaning that a movie remake may be in order.

As for Super Man, it's interesting how Smallville has almost destroyed the old shows of Super Boy and The Adventures of Louis and Clark. It wasn't untill the early 80's that Lex Luthor went from Mad Scientist to Power Hungry Corporate Businessman.

I have to say that Justice League and JL Unlimited makes more sense to me than re watching the Justice Friends.

My wife is still pissed off at the remake cartoons of Care Bears and Strawberry Shortcake. 

When old TV shows hit the big screen, I can't imagine anyone other than Steve Correl being Maxwell Smart.  It's almost ashame that Don Adams (also voice of Inspector Gadget) is not able to see or make a camio appeareance in this remake movie version.

As for another TV to movie remake, I didn't get the point of seeing Dan Akroyd and Tom Hanks staring in Dragnet.

As for The Fly, I still like the original better than the 80's version. Then again, I could be biest since I'm a Vincent Price fan.

As for other Remakes, I think the Muppets has done an exceptional job on all its remakes versions. Charles Dickens Christmas Story and Treasure Island were nifty.

As for Treasure Island, the cartoon Treasure Planet was a pretty neat twist. After all, it's not hard to belive that Piratcy will continue in Space Travel.

So, does anyone remember the original Little Shop of Horrors with Jack Nicholson or is that to far back after watching the Nick Moranis and Steve Martin remake?






MadameMarque -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 9:36:58 AM)

One remake is a completely mystery, to me: Gus Van Sant's Psycho.

He even used the same shots as Hitchcock - and the same soundtrack.  The main soundtrack is Danny Elfman's orchestration of the unmistakable Bernard Hermann original, screeching strings and all.  And I think Van Sant's great, but all the more reason that I wonder what in the world his intention was.

The justification for a remake is that it be (in some significant way) new or be better - or both.

And off on a couple of tangents:

I miss Anthony Perkins.  Bless his soul.

If you want to see Vince Vaughn play a crazy person, watch Clay Pigeons, instead.  That's one of my favourites, the cast is great, and Vince Vaughn is on fire! he's so brilliant, in it.  I'm pretty sure he ad libbed most of his character's dialogue, or maybe his acting's just that natural.  I may have to start a thread on that movie, alone.

For an additional disappointment re Van Sant's Psycho, there's a great moody piece of music on the soundtrack, at the end, which is not Bernard Hermann's - but it doesn't appear to be on the soundtrack CD.  The Danny Elfman piece they call the finale, isn't it.  Now that I'm thinking about it, I should see if someone can help me rip it from the DVD.

Now what is entertaining, is the collection of new songs on the Van Sant Psycho soundtrack CD (I don't think they used these in the movie, itself).  Fly, by Lamb, is poetry; All of My Life, by Steve Earle, and, ah, Rob Zombie's Living Dead Girl, are just great.

Now I've talked myself into listening to the CD.

Somebody, somewhere, said love is a prison
and no one really wants to be free
 
- from All of My Life, by Steve Earle



Angels come and take me on silver wings
Carry me of to the sky
Angels come and free me from earthly things
And I'll fly, I'll fly, I'll fly
 
- from Fly, by the group, Lamb



Alumbrado -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 10:29:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Massive pet peeve: when Hollywood takes a perfectly good British film and makes a syrupy watery version of it for the American market.

Man does it piss me off [:D] .


Like that 'Inspector Callahan Talks Sternly to Some Hooligans' series they remade as 'Dirty Harry'?[:D]



RealityLicks -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 11:13:46 AM)

No, I thhink its more likely she meant Get Carter, The Italian Job, Kind Hearts and Coronets. You know, films that exist.



Alumbrado -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 11:15:29 AM)

And sacrasm doesn't exist in your version of reality? Riiiiiight...[8|]



RealityLicks -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 11:21:24 AM)

No.  But jokes are actually  funny.



RealityLicks -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 12:20:16 PM)

FR --

I haven't seen Disturbia yet. I'm told its good - but that was a remake of Rear Window.  I was put off by the presence of the catastrophically-named Shia Lebouef.  But the more I think about it, lots of my favourite films are remakes.

Spaghetti westerns started with a remake of a Kurosawa original, Yojimbo and that in turn is a version of an earlier work.  Magnificent Seven is a remake of Seven Samurai, The Outrage is a remake of Rashomon but Kurosawa was clearly influenced by John Ford.

Euripides rewrote Sophocles. Shakespeare rewrote some other guy whose name escapes me. And Shakespeare's popularity makes it clear that a good story, like a trusty steed, can always yield more fruit, in the way of any mixed metaphor.  Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice has been done as at least two high school movies  - in fact high schools eat stories like that, theres' a Romeo & Juliet remake , Valmont, Sense and Sensibility I think. And many many more. Some more.

Anyway, we aren't going to stop them coming and its time I went out for a drink.



Nosathro -> RE: Old Movie Remakes. Are they Better? (2/16/2008 12:43:05 PM)

Actually they are considering a remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still".  I do not think it will go over very well...it hard for people today to fully understand the nature of the movie in the period it was filmed in.  Remember this was at the highet of the Communist scare, The Non-American Activities, Nuclear Weapons arms race, and Black listing.  In fact Sam Jeffers who played in the movie was "Black Listed" at that time.  He was hired in defence of the Black List.
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ORIGINAL: DesertRat

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ORIGINAL: sweetwenchie
That one was a remake by John Carpenter.

The original was black and white, came out in 1951 


Wow, that's the year I came out, too. More Thing trivia: The real name of the film was The Thing From Another Planet, I think. But no one called it that.

Omigod! What if they try to remake The Day the Earth Stood Still??? That would suck. If they even think about it, I bet Gort will reduce this planet to a burnt out cinder.

Bob



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