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LadyPact -> Alternative methods (2/16/2008 6:20:56 AM)
I posted something similar to this in another section, but it hasn't seemed to go over too well. I'm thinking this might be a better forum. A quick bit of background as to what prompted the post. This past week, on Valentine's Day, I chose to brand My sub. This was something that neither of us had experienced before, so I would have to say both were rather excited about it. Each of us was very much looking forward to the occasion. Without going into too much detail, I'll fast forward to the event, or rather, the post event. After I had put the mark on his shoulder, I leaned forward and kissed the brand. I told him to turn around and face Me, so I could kiss his forehead, which is something I often do. When he did, I looked in his eyes and saw that he was quite far gone into subspace. While I'd gotten a great little rush from applying the brand, it had taken him well over the top. There had been no play or scene prior. The only pain involved was the actual brand itself. This prompts My question. What things have led you to space that might be different than what some might expect? Have you ever had an experience, such as a branding, that took you directly to space? Has your D ever done something to you for the first time that might not be seen by others as 'play', but still brought the same result? What can take you to subspace that isn't necessarily a scene? Thank you for your participation

daddysliloneds -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 7:47:33 AM)
for me, subspace is 70% mental and only 30% physical; so it isn't going to be 'the act' that gets me there, it's how i 'feel' mentally and emotionally, if that's any help to you.

LaMspeach -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 8:15:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact .This prompts My question. What things have led you to space that might be different than what some might expect? Subspaces are all different for me. I can get all spacey feeling just being in his presence and being allowed to serve Him. Don't get me wrong it isn’t the same kind of space I get from endorphins. It is a content, happy dreamy feeling that I get from knowing I am in the exactly place where I belong. quote: Have you ever had an experience, such as a branding, that took you directly to space? Yes, when Master took me to be marked me with His tattoo. smiles After the Tattoo artist finished I remember her tapping me and telling me I can get up and just smiling up at her in a dreamy like state. She asked it I was ok and said “oh yeah, I am just hot” She went on to ramble about how women take tattoos so much better then men and got me a water. I asked if Master could come back with me (in Philadelphia no one is allowed to be in the area while you are being tattooed) She said No, so I got myself together enough to get up but as soon as I saw Master the tears started. I don’t think it had anything to do with the pain. For me I think it had to do with the deep bond I felt at that moment. quote: Has your D ever done something to you for the first time that might not be seen by others as 'play', but still brought the same result? Yes quote: What can take you to subspace that isn't necessarily a scene? Lots of things give me that content dreamy feeling. When he allows me to lay at his feet with my head on his lap. Him using me for his sexual pleasure only.

TysGalilah -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 8:33:32 AM)
I can relate to what Peach shared about getting tattooed. When I recvd my tattoo the artist asked about 5 mins into it if i was okay. Guess it was the look on my face> but he just smiled and said "Ohh, I guess so" " I'll try not to check in too many times, you let me know if you need me to stop ok ? " I remember nodding but not speaking much at all. grinning.. Sometimes, when I am on the phone with Tyson and talking about something upsetting to me > I tend to go on and on and he will stop me " ok now shhhh. stop..take a breath and be silent and listen to me" works every time and I go immediately to a place of calm and intense listening and awareness. Alot of my subspaces during play are primal...rather aggressive and animalistic reactions rather than the floaty place. But Tysons voice will put me in that soft floaty place. Oh..and do you count hair pulling as sceneing? doesn't have to be during any kind of play....just out of the blue, if he grabs a handfull of hair and tightens it around his fist> I feel like my eyes roll back in my head and I get very quiet and attentive.. ok now I'm hot... sheesh.

camille65 -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 8:36:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TysGalilah Sometimes, when I am on the phone with Tyson and talking about something upsetting to me > I tend to go on and on and he will stop me " ok now shhhh. stop..take a breath and be silent and listen to me" works every time and I go immediately to a place of calm and intense listening and awareness. Bingo! ok now I'm hot... sheesh.Tis a bit warm in here.. I agree [:D] ETA jeez I forgot to say, LadyPact I was so happy to read about your Valentines Day, it sounds like it was a truly wonderful time for you both. I am a bit envious too!

LaMspeach -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 8:54:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TysGalilah But Tysons voice will put me in that soft floaty place. Oh..and do you count hair pulling as sceneing? doesn't have to be during any kind of play....just out of the blue, if he grabs a handfull of hair and tightens it around his fist> I feel like my eyes roll back in my head and I get very quiet and attentive.. ok now I'm hot... sheesh. His Voice and hair pulling does it for me also * sighs* It he pulls my hair and whispers something in my ear i am gonner for sure. There doesnt have to be anything else to it. No pain, no other play, nothing. When i am rambling on and on he will usually say something like. "Quiet, now listen to me." Sends me right into that warm content place.

TysGalilah -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 9:21:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: camille65 quote: ORIGINAL: TysGalilah Sometimes, when I am on the phone with Tyson and talking about something upsetting to me > I tend to go on and on and he will stop me " ok now shhhh. stop..take a breath and be silent and listen to me" works every time and I go immediately to a place of calm and intense listening and awareness. Bingo! ok now I'm hot... sheesh.Tis a bit warm in here.. I agree [:D] ETA jeez I forgot to say, LadyPact I was so happy to read about your Valentines Day, it sounds like it was a truly wonderful time for you both. I am a bit envious too! ::fanning Camille, Peach and myself:::: ! grinz and, yes...LadyPact...congrat to both of you ..how wonderful smiles.. ..

chellekitty -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 10:23:09 AM)
there was one time that the set up for a scene had me gone before the scene could really begin...wrapping my arms in pallet wrap to a st andrews cross...by the time my second arm was attached i was off in la-la land and didn't want to come back....

RCdc -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 10:44:09 AM)
Greetings LadyPact Firstly, Darcy instructed to write and send deep regards and congratulations from Master (and myself) for the wonderful branding to you and yours. As to answer your question, for me - I have fallen into space(or we prefere sub-trance) when Darcy plays Guitar. I have also tranced out when he has been working on photography and I am standing back in observation. We often work together, however Master has a far keener interest in urban than I, and I often wait when he finds something that grabs him, watching him at work and have found myself slip. He has come across to me a few times now and had to 'snap me out' in the middle of the street. Coffee shops are a favourite haunt to rest bring me down.[:)] the.dark.

persephonee -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 11:11:37 AM)
ok now shhhh. stop..take a breath and be silent and listen to me" works every time and I go immediately to a place of calm and intense listening and awareness. Exactly....on the phone...online...in my ear...sometimes just that look...We can be in the middle of play and taking a break, talking politics or what to do about dinner. It doesnt matter when and it doesnt matter if play or even touch is involved. I drop like a stone in an instant. persephone(e)

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Alternative methods (2/16/2008 11:30:35 AM)
Face slapping tends to take me straight there, very deeply. It also tends to make me start sobbing very quickly so you'd need to be prepared for that also. I'm not a masochist so I never go into subspace from pain play, it's always about the connection and the sense of submission towards that person.

LadyPact -> RE: Alternative methods (2/17/2008 11:48:20 AM)
I wanted to thank everyone for their reponses. quote: ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds for me, subspace is 70% mental and only 30% physical; so it isn't going to be 'the act' that gets me there, it's how i 'feel' mentally and emotionally, if that's any help to you. Yes, for this experience, it was definitely more about the mental than the physical. quote: ORIGINAL: LaMspeach Yes, when Master took me to be marked me with His tattoo. smiles After the Tattoo artist finished I remember her tapping me and telling me I can get up and just smiling up at her in a dreamy like state. She asked it I was ok and said “oh yeah, I am just hot” She went on to ramble about how women take tattoos so much better then men and got me a water. I asked if Master could come back with me (in Philadelphia no one is allowed to be in the area while you are being tattooed) She said No, so I got myself together enough to get up but as soon as I saw Master the tears started. I don’t think it had anything to do with the pain. For me I think it had to do with the deep bond I felt at that moment. Thank you for sharing that. It was exactly what I was getting at. Congrats and a smile. quote: ORIGINAL: TysGalilah I can relate to what Peach shared about getting tattooed. When I recvd my tattoo the artist asked about 5 mins into it if i was okay. Guess it was the look on my face> but he just smiled and said "Ohh, I guess so" " I'll try not to check in too many times, you let me know if you need me to stop ok ? " I remember nodding but not speaking much at all. grinning.. Alot of my subspaces during play are primal...rather aggressive and animalistic reactions rather than the floaty place. But Tysons voice will put me in that soft floaty place. Oh..and do you count hair pulling as sceneing? doesn't have to be during any kind of play....just out of the blue, if he grabs a handfull of hair and tightens it around his fist> I feel like my eyes roll back in my head and I get very quiet and attentive.. ok now I'm hot... sheesh. I think you got it spot on. Thank you for sharing. quote: ORIGINAL: camille65 ETA jeez I forgot to say, LadyPact I was so happy to read about your Valentines Day, it sounds like it was a truly wonderful time for you both. I am a bit envious too Thank you. I'm quite pleased with the experience. quote: ORIGINAL: chellekitty there was one time that the set up for a scene had me gone before the scene could really begin...wrapping my arms in pallet wrap to a st andrews cross...by the time my second arm was attached i was off in la-la land and didn't want to come back.... Yes, I can certainly see that happening. quote: ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark Greetings LadyPact Firstly, Darcy instructed to write and send deep regards and congratulations from Master (and myself) for the wonderful branding to you and yours. As to answer your question, for me - I have fallen into space(or we prefere sub-trance) when Darcy plays Guitar. I have also tranced out when he has been working on photography and I am standing back in observation. We often work together, however Master has a far keener interest in urban than I, and I often wait when he finds something that grabs him, watching him at work and have found myself slip. He has come across to me a few times now and had to 'snap me out' in the middle of the street. Coffee shops are a favourite haunt to rest bring me down. the.dark. Of course My regards to Darcy as well. Thank you for the congratulations from both of you. I know there are quite a few folks who understand this was special for us. quote: ORIGINAL: persephonee I drop like a stone in an instant. persephone(e) That is really great from My POV. It was a first here between My sub and I to that extent. quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Face slapping tends to take me straight there, very deeply. It also tends to make me start sobbing very quickly so you'd need to be prepared for that also. I'm not a masochist so I never go into subspace from pain play, it's always about the connection and the sense of submission towards that person. LA, thank you for your contribution. I've known some folks who immediately drift when slapped in the face. (My prior pet was one of them.) I appreciate you adding that.

fairerthanshe -> RE: Alternative methods (2/18/2008 3:13:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact This prompts My question. What things have led you to space that might be different than what some might expect? Have you ever had an experience, such as a branding, that took you directly to space? Has your D ever done something to you for the first time that might not be seen by others as 'play', but still brought the same result? What can take you to subspace that isn't necessarily a scene? Thank you for your participation Greetings LadyPact, Congratulations on the branding of your property! It sounds like it was intense for both of you. SJ does a lot of pressure point play with me and it can send me soaring or make me pass out cold. There is a spot on my forehead that he touches for a few seconds and I'm just gone. Granted, he doesn't do this if I am standing up, only when I have my head in his lap. I really enjoy the variety of sensations which pressure point play delivers, and it can be done at any time and anywhere, so he can amuse himself with me no matter where we are. We also do a lot of hypnosis work and it constantly amazes me the deep physical reactions to mental stimulation - it creates such an intense connection between the two of us. I love it. well wishes ~ fairer

ownedandcollared -> RE: Alternative methods (2/18/2008 3:31:39 PM)
...i'm not sure i understand what subspace is?

tsatske -> RE: Alternative methods (2/18/2008 5:58:36 PM)
[:)] Some that a few others have mentioned: being slapped in the face does it fast. Having my hair pulled, also. The sight of a belt being pulled through the belt loops of jeans used to do it, but Master reserves his belt for discipline, which has sort of broken that one. Sitting at his feet. A mention, suggestion or promise of what is to come or might be to come, sometimes can do it. That certain tone of voice, or look. making me beg, telling me no. I kiss his feet every morning and every night, but being given the oppertunity to worship at his feet more extensively will send me into deep, deep subspace. the snap of steel closing around me - shackles, handcuffs, and, for whatever crazy reason, thumbcuffs most of all. Being told to 'shut up' or called a bitch, ect. Interesting, because outside of a consentual M/s relationship, I do NOT tolerate the word 'shut up' at all, I consider it the singular most vulgar word in the English language, with the exception of words used as derogatories aimed at any particular group. In general, anything that carries with it that feeling of being 'put in my place'. Even the act of wearing clothes that Master has selected for me which are vastly different than what I would select for myself. I wear pink so often - a color I declared off limits long ago and NEVER wore before becoming his; that at the last munch, when I was wearing a wine colored skirt and a white sweater, someone mentioned my not having on any pink <grin>. His hand softly at my back when we are out shopping. oh, my goodness, a million things. It's amazing I am ever in my right mind.

chatondamore -> RE: Alternative methods (2/18/2008 9:14:03 PM)
One of the things that will put me right into subspace just WHAM is pulling my hair. That full handful at the back of my head pulling. My eyes roll back into my head and i just fly. I was recently caned, and that didn't put me into subspace like i thought it would. I had built the whole experience up in my mind and was not exactly disappointed, it just wasn't that rush i had expected it to be. Being put in a straightjacket was the thing that i didn't expect to make me fly as high as i did. That was one of the more intense things i've experienced.

LadyPact -> RE: Alternative methods (2/18/2008 9:40:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fairerthanshe Greetings LadyPact, Congratulations on the branding of your property! It sounds like it was intense for both of you. SJ does a lot of pressure point play with me and it can send me soaring or make me pass out cold. There is a spot on my forehead that he touches for a few seconds and I'm just gone. Granted, he doesn't do this if I am standing up, only when I have my head in his lap. I really enjoy the variety of sensations which pressure point play delivers, and it can be done at any time and anywhere, so he can amuse himself with me no matter where we are. We also do a lot of hypnosis work and it constantly amazes me the deep physical reactions to mental stimulation - it creates such an intense connection between the two of us. I love it. well wishes ~ fairer Thank you, fairer. I appreciate you comments and your kind words. My best to SJ.

littleone35 -> RE: Alternative methods (2/20/2008 3:42:40 PM)
All it takes is Master stroking my back that does it for me. Master has to have the best hands in the known universe. Matt's littleone

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