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sweetwenchie -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 4:09:01 PM)

~fast reply~

Being in the center of a competition sounds ridiculous.  Seems a bit too "look at me i have men (or women) fighting over me, i must be so worth it".  In my view, it is a game designed to boost someone's lack of self worth.  There are better ways to work on self worth that does not involve playing games with other's emotions and minds. 




Kana -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 6:30:42 PM)

Nope, I would walk away in a heartbeat. Its either a form of manipulation, a twisted way to get attention or a desire to start conflict, none of which are things I desire either in my life or a submissive.
Its not to tough, either she wants to be with me, or not. Why would I want anyone who didn't want to serve me with all her heart?




antipode -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 7:15:37 PM)

Silly thing to do, compete. If she doesn't know what/who she wants, she is out the door.




MadRabbit -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 7:17:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittensmailbox

 Have any Masters’ fought {Or competed}with  another Master for a sub’s collar?


Oh why...yes, of course. We all dawned upon our armor and strut out at noon to draw swords in the streets while she blessed us with roses from the balcony, waiting to bestow a kiss upon the winner.




kittensmailbox -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 7:32:02 PM)

Thank you all for your replies, however i do feel some might have taken my question the wrong way... no matter, thank you again...




BlackPhx -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 8:25:14 PM)

I suspect RavenMuse that you may be misinterpreting what my Master has said. While it is obvious that Dominants are not polishing up their armor, leaping on a horse and jousting for the chance to attract a ladies attention by their prowess, all people male and female are to some extent in competition if they are seeking a compatible partner.

Before one can consider compatibility with another person, you must first attract their attention. Some do this by going through the profiles or the clubs, munches etc, and talking to or emailing a person they find of some interest. Others post in the forums, display their humor, tolerance, experience and attract attention that way. I suspect very few just stand in the middle of the equivilent of Grand Central Station and expect submissives to just flock to them and petition their attention. If nothing else a goodly majority of the dominants here have at least one picture on their profile, so that visually a submissive may be attracted by look. From the ones I have perused just in the forums, most strike a "Domly" stare, pose, or attitude. Few show themselves at their worst knee deep in crude or buried in tax forms.

First you get their attention. This is common for both Doms and Submissives. Something about that profile, posting, etc stood out and attracted your attention among all the others. That is the the competition, to first get their attention long enough for you to begin any exploration of compatibility. Few of us would like to think (either Dom or Sub) that we are nothing more than generic parts that will fit more than one model, more or less. We each hope to stand out in someway, even if you are 1 in a million that makes you part of more than 6,000 just like you out there, thats an awful lot of competition in the scheme of things as you try to find someone compatible with you. Even sperm, those mindless little bits of encoded chromasomes and protein are in competition with each other to get to that egg. It is a basic part of life and the mating rituals. If you consider that you may not be the only one engaged by a profile, seeking compatibility, etc. and that more than just yourself have contacted that sub via email, you are in fact in a competition for her attention. One of you may get it, none of you may get it, but at least she knows you have some interest and that goes the other way as well. How many have looked at your profile, and others, your postings and decided to contact you or not? We each have something we are looking for, the trick is, something has to catch our attention or we might just by pass the perfect person.  That look, that stare that promise of Dominance, or similar likes, that intellect, or way with words is the peacocks feather that snags her attention over that of another Doms..and you have beaten out the competiton for her attention, allowing you both to begin to learn more about the other.

poenkitten (remembering the Territorial Imperative of life)




WickedNeuro -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 8:25:46 PM)

You might expand on the question if it wasn't answered in the correct context. I can't imagine competing for a sub's attention. I've never actually gone searching for one. Simply interact in whatever communities I have access to and, if I make myself available to it, eventually I will be contacted by an interested party and there it begins. If she is talking to another I might continue contact but in a light, fairly distant way until she chooses to move closer to me. Just my own view on competition.




Noah -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 9:04:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittensmailbox

 Have any Masters’ fought {Or competed}with  another Master for a sub’s collar?


Wow. Look at some of those responses! You sure hit a nerve.

When I met my specialest little bit of stuff (here) she was under a constant onslaught of attention from others. She's with me now (and is still under the onslaught.). Was/is there a competition? Well sure, depending on the sense of the word you have in mind.

I doubt that I've ever gotten to know a submissive who wasn't simultaneously getting to know others. And getting to know can sometimes be a very interactive process. Insofar as you might want to call that competition I'm fine with it.

It seems a little childish to say: "If you want to get to know me you must cease interaction others who might also have a desire or an interest in advancing their relationship with you".  Maybe worse than childish. Seems like I've read somewhere that "Isolating you" is a classic sign of abusiveness.

But after all I'll say that if its consensual and feels right to you and your friend, please proceed. I can't tell from the outside what this aspect of your relationship (ban on competition) means to you and so I'm wary of making careless negative judgements.

If by competition you mean something very much more overt, with two dominants taking turns performing like trained seals for someone's attention, well, no. That's not my kink.








CalifChick -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 9:33:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittensmailbox

Thank you all for your replies, however i do feel some might have taken my question the wrong way... no matter, thank you again...


Then perhaps you could expand on it a bit for us, and let us know if this is a real situation or a hypothetical.

Cali




carlie310 -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 9:39:16 PM)

FR~

When I first added my profile, I was overwhelmed by the attention.  It wasn't me, it was the scent of fresh meat.  When the hubbub died down, I was exchanging emails regularly with several people, but didn't once view them as being in competition with each other.  It was more about seeking compatibility and common interests.  Each friendship was separate, and when one got to a certain point, the rest had already tapered off as a natural side effect.

The concept of a competition for a relationship is silly. 




MasterBlueTiger -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 9:41:58 PM)

I wouldn't say I compete. If you're still in the "getting to know each other" phase whether it is online or chatting up at a munch, I have no so such claim to compete for said attention. In fact one could argue to expect that somone to be getting to know somone else. If you only concentrate on one person at a time it may take forever to find that perfectly compatible somone. You could say its Logical.[8D]
But when somone decides they want to take the relationship more similarly, the boyfriend/girlfriend equivelent of the relationship, what ever you wish to call it. Then I would think that person is ready to invest more time in me and less in others, if any at all. I think compatability is the most important. I would rather have somone who willingly wants to be my slave than somone I had to win by some sort of force.
Besides shouldn't my boyish looks, passionate heart, and clever wit be good enough. [;)]




FangsNfeet -> RE: Question please? (2/16/2008 9:55:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittensmailbox

 Have any Masters’ fought {Or competed}with  another Master for a sub’s collar?


Before we met, my sub was chating with other dominant men. I was the one who made something happen for her. If nothing else, you could say my good looks and charm competed for her affection versus what others were offering.





HerLord -> RE: Question please? (2/17/2008 1:10:00 AM)

"I was born in the desert, raised in a lion's den
My number one occupation, stealin' women from their monkey men."   -(As recorded on the Dead's first album)




Justme696 -> RE: Question please? (2/17/2008 2:37:28 AM)

At the OP
I don't invest time in people anymore..that are not sure what they want..So if  a sub has to "chose"  ..then the other D can have her.




Lumus -> RE: Question please? (2/17/2008 2:41:01 AM)

Some so-called dominants have tried drama with me before, and once or twice claimed they could 'take' the girl I had at the time.  My general response to this was, and would be,

"If you can take her, she was never Mine; so play as you will.  Genuine amusement is so hard to find these days."




Alumbrado -> RE: Question please? (2/17/2008 2:42:03 AM)

High school was over a loooooong time ago.[:D]




Justme696 -> RE: Question please? (2/17/2008 2:44:26 AM)

lol then I am propably way younger then you :P
grin

but yes...good remark




RavenMuse -> RE: Question please? (2/17/2008 3:59:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BlackPhx

I suspect RavenMuse that you may be misinterpreting what my Master has said.


I suspect that you are doing the same thing He was and that I am interpreting both of you correctly..... YOU see it as a competition and thus can't accept others do not.

If I am attracting the attention of a young lady it is "Hi. I think there maybe some compatability here, shall We look closer"... that isn't 'competition'... competition would be in refrence to others "Hey they are all wannabes look Me I'm better than them"... which, frankly is the province of insecure folks who need the context of others in order to validate themself and is often more about the 'competative' drive to address their insecurity than about looking for compatability with the girl.








BlackPhx -> RE: Question please? (2/17/2008 4:55:53 AM)

God I love my poen.

In reponse I am well aware you do not see it as competition. Even in my original response I said most dominants would never admit to it or be aware of it and it seems that I struck a nerve unintentionally. I understand you have decided and your mind is closed to alternative view points for consideration. That is fine and your perogative and I will not judge you as being unseasoned or insecure because of it. We can just agree to disagree and to you I extend this courtesy as I ponder the the information I have gathered from this post.


Graciously
BlackPhx 





Alumbrado -> RE: Question please? (2/17/2008 1:07:43 PM)

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we are in the presence of 'Twueness' (tm)...[:D]




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