RE: "Love" is a four-letter word

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Shawn1066 -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 3:04:42 PM)
I am in the lifestyle for love. If I wasn't in love, then it would all be meaningless. DV's Fox

Hippiekinkster -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 3:13:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MzMia quote: ORIGINAL: Loveisallyouneed quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop Playing with someone that I've given my heart to though, gives it a whole other dimension that I can't even come close to describing. That has been my experience, which is why I wonder why people settle for less. I feel this way also. But, to each their own! I also feel this way. For me, kink is an act of giving, and I cannot give without reservation unless my heart is involved.

GreedyTop -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 3:16:56 PM)
I guess part of why I can do 'casual' play is because I'm more into the SM than the DS.. But again... if I LIKE someone enough to play with them, then they are already in my heart..so maybe, it means that I love them in some manner... (even if I'd never consider them as a permanent partner)

Loveisallyouneed -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 3:44:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop I guess part of why I can do 'casual' play is because I'm more into the SM than the DS.. But again... if I LIKE someone enough to play with them, then they are already in my heart..so maybe, it means that I love them in some manner... (even if I'd never consider them as a permanent partner) Funny, it is probably because of the sm side of me that love -has- to be involved on both sides. Quite simply I cannot hurt anyone unless I know her well enough, and love her enough, so as to feel assured her need is sincere and an expression of her love and respect for me. Giving pain is as intimate an act as giving pleasure, involving at least as much trust, if not moreso. I just can't do that casually.

MzMia -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 4:29:17 PM)
Bob, thank you for starting this topic. I have been known to start similiar ones every now and then. It is time to bring BDSM'ers that only seek "love based/loving" relationships out of the closet!

ThinkingKitten -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 5:13:50 PM)
Love is like a butterfly....... the harder you chase it, the more elusive it becomes, therefore it's safer to just not even mention it. Try and lull it into a false sense of security ya know? Pretend it's not what you're after, but then spring the trap? (None of that's ever worked for me BTW.... chasing or ignoring).

MzMia -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 5:23:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThinkingKitten Love is like a butterfly....... the harder you chase it, the more elusive it becomes, therefore it's safer to just not even mention it. Try and lull it into a false sense of security ya know? Pretend it's not what you're after, but then spring the trap? (None of that's ever worked for me BTW.... chasing or ignoring). I don't think "Love" is something that you normally need to "chase". Many don't grasp that great close friendships are good building blocks for loving relationships. Why would I want a relationship with someone who could not be bothered to get to know me, understand me, and trust me, FIRST? THAT is how I roll. Which is probably why I am single. But I will not settle for less. I have been divorced 4 years, my ex-husband is still one of my best friends. People are usually mystified by the fact we are great friends, I tell them, he was a good friend BEFORE we got married.

Loveisallyouneed -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 6:59:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThinkingKitten Love is like a butterfly....... the harder you chase it, the more elusive it becomes, therefore it's safer to just not even mention it. Try and lull it into a false sense of security ya know? Pretend it's not what you're after, but then spring the trap? (None of that's ever worked for me BTW.... chasing or ignoring). I wonder how many share your pov, TK. It would certainly explain some of the behaviour I've witnessed in some who have responded to my profile.

batshalom -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 7:15:00 PM)
Hm. I've found just the opposite of your hypothesis - read the "ask a submissive" forums and you'll find the prevalence of love-related discussions. It would be more difficult for you to inconspicuously hang out with a gaggle of subs in RT, but from my experience I can tell you that love seems to be the reason most women stay with their Doms / Masters. As for myself, I would not / could not submit to someone I didn't love. It's too personal, too intimate, too intense, but then I am into the D/s dynamic for the relationship and not necessarily for the play.

Lumus -> RE: "Love" is a four-letter word (2/17/2008 7:31:40 PM)
Love vs Lust - which one is the Dominant feature? Or are they both switches? Meh. I love first, fuck later. It's my predilection. Never fucked my girl, but she's most certainly my girl. And hopefully, after a year of trying to be together, she'll be up before the end of the month. [:D]

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