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RE: Labels. - 9/15/2005 6:28:39 PM   
BalletBob


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Hey Nella, Did you ask for Cookie Monster? I GOT COOKIES ! As for Labels, Riot Girl, I also use and LOVE Labels...Labels are good to me, labels are good to me, labels are good to me......OOPS. Sorry, I was in a label trance there.

Labels are indeed handy like Emerald said, and helpful at time to get a general idea. Like some people at work, labeled me a goodball, when in fact, my label says Silly Person. Lables are like words we don't like...so we just ignore the ones that offend us, and consider where or who they are coming from.

Wish I was labeled, Don't open till Christmas, BalletBob

PS Riot Girl..I think your Stephen King should be labeled: SICK PUPPY ! HA HA HA




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RE: Labels. - 9/15/2005 6:32:51 PM   
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labels...labels.....I don't need no stinkin labels....wait is that supposed to be badges???

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RE: Labels. - 9/15/2005 6:35:14 PM   
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Cookies, you got cookies, yum yum... hey wait, i better not, i need to loose weight.

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RE: Labels. - 9/15/2005 7:14:56 PM   
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Hi Nella, You can eat my cookies if you give me Garfield. WAIT A MOMENT....EAT MY COOKIES ? That either doesn't sound right, or could be VERY PAINFUL ! You don't have Loranna Bobbit there, Nella?

In My Cookies and making Nella Jelious, BalletBob




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RE: Labels. - 9/15/2005 8:07:00 PM   
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I like labels too, mostly as a guide, and I think they help to keep me from stepping all over, erm I mean eating salt when I feel like having sugar. M

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RE: Labels. - 9/15/2005 10:03:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

i mean i'm like Dominant with the other slave, not really a slave, but a slave with Master, alot of vanilla interaction, but with alot of slave rules. i just dont know quite where i fit. i am confused. though i doubt many others have this problem, i thought i'd throw it out there anyways.


I don't see those as labels, but as roles. We all play many roles, or wear many hats as the saying goes, and damn if they don't get confusing to me too at times! What I find the toughest is having to make the switch quickly. If I'm with Master and right then I am his slave and suddenly get a phone call from a teenage daughter who brings out the mother-having-to-be-bitch role, and then hanging up the phone aggravated and *poof* going back to obedient and cheerful slave.

Maybe you are just adjusting to some new roles or changes in roles and having to make that switch between them. Hopefully, in time, you will become more comfortable with it all. (At least that's what I keep telling myself anyway, lol.)

Blessed be,

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RE: Labels. - 9/16/2005 7:45:37 AM   
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LOL you all are wierd. Funny i thought i was the only one who liked labels. Nice to know its a whide spread phenomenon. i dont specially go around with "labels" labeling things. i do it mentally. LOL My Dad's on the other hand has his sock draw literally labeled "white socks" and so on. ha! Labeling to me is just an organizational tool.

i organize OTHER ppl in my head. "vanilla" "lifestyle (and all its sub contents)" ect ect. then it breaks down. to sub catagorgies with in the larger catagory. Course there is just the "misc" catagory for those who wont fit into any OTHER catagory. Always need a Misc. Stereo types, dont really belive in. A General rule for all catagories.. whether its blonde, brunette, red head. but like my books, each in the catagory is an indivual. Not all the same. Ppl arent robots and my books arent duplicates of the same book.

Labels to me are like a base. Sort of like when i lived in Hong kong. My base was my best friend, tonya. I'd show up at the clubs with her.. and take off going about doing this and that.. coming back.. going back out.. and whether we went to the same place at the end of it all or not didnt really matter. She was my base. Whether i was down the street at the local park, or over in the stadium, or in a different club, or sitting on a roof, or hanging out with this group.. i always came back to her.

So like ppl, and like me, i need a base. Something to come back to. No matter which part of my personality i indulge, i always have a base to come back to. Its not that i havent a base for "kelly" but a base for kelly IN "bdsm" i dont know what to revert back to. If that makes any sense.

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RE: Labels. - 9/16/2005 8:09:05 AM   
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Riot girl, just don't let your label be a straight jacket.
I label myself a dominant. But i won't hesitate to chain myself up to someone elses cross to learn something new from the "bottom up".
My pup...isn't into pup play he just reminds me of Marmaduke and it stuck. He used to get mad when i told him he had a top streak a mile wide in him. He was and is a good boy. But he came to see my point and has grown quite a bit as a switch. He's also a big brother...My puppy isn't into pup play either. He just has that whole body wiggle when he's excited and worms his head up under my hand when I'm not paying attention. And just as I was certain he was as bottom as bottom gets he calls me for permission to have a guy lick his boots and thinks he wants to dom the guy. Labels are bouys, not anchors. Have fun.

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RE: Labels. - 9/16/2005 10:15:54 AM   
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In our household, we would call you the First Handmaid or First Servant--the one that all the other servants answer to, but who, ultimately, answers to me.

(the choice of which name depends on whether you were dedicated to the esoteric or pragmatic path in our household--though there is only one "First", the label will gravitate to show the primary affiliation of that individual. The titles are also not gender-relevant. All dedicants primarily bound to the esoteric path are handmaids, all dedicants who serve the household on strictly or primarily pragmatic terms are servants.)

Perhaps in your household, it would be something like Senior slave, Overseer, or first slave.

PS: I like labels, too, though I am careful to use others' labels for themselves when speaking with them about their situations, rather than using my own terms. It bothers me when people force their own labels onto other people's situations which they may or may not understand well enough to label. That is my only real hardship where defining and labeling are concerned.


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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

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Problem is. i lost my label. i NEED my label, its how the world goes round and round in my head (ketchup too) And if you dont like labels, thats fine, not asking anyone to live how i live.

i mean i'm like Dominant with the other slave, not really a slave, but a slave with Master, alot of vanilla interaction, but with alot of slave rules. i just dont know quite where i fit. i am confused. though i doubt many others have this problem, i thought i'd throw it out there anyways.



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RE: Labels. - 9/16/2005 10:19:13 AM   
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Hehehe i want Garfield for myself, i love cats.

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RE: Labels. - 9/16/2005 2:59:18 PM   
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Thanks all for taking the time to read and reply. No worries, no straight jackets. LOL must of forgot my orginal quote is "i am not one thing, but all things, and capable of everything" Like even though i labeled myself as a sub/slave.. i didnt hesitate to Dom her. Quite liked it actually.

thank you LadiesBladewing for an alternative label! i will prolly be speaking to Master later and will be able to figure out what he finds appropriate. Thank you, i do appreciate the suggestion! i also agree with forcing "my" lables upon other ppl. i try as well to use theirs. Its like names almost. i wouldnt create my own names for others. Nicknames, and ones that are "okay".. but my general rule with ppl is.. if it floats their boat and makes them happy... more power to them. Doesnt mean i have to agree, or LIKE their labeling, but how i feel about it doesnt really matter does it? Pretty much with all in life. We all, have a certain way we do things, feel about, agree with.. . Like right and wrong. i MAY think something is wrong, and YOU may not, just because i disagree with you doesnt particularly matter. My life is my life, yours is yours. We will all live the way that makes us happy (hopefully) my happy doesnt neccasarily make you happy and vise versa. i've a friend who used to cheat on his wife. Non stop really. Personally, i think cheating is wrong. So i dont do it. And i think he was wrong. But so what? What he does isnt my business. i suppose what i AM TRYING To say, is its non of my business what other ppl do, label themselves as, believe, think or say. Nor do i have to agree with them. My opionon on their life should not matter one wit.

ehhh.. but i do desperately need my own label. LOL aye and i could careless what others label me as too. i was once labeled as "the girl in the corner booth always off her rocker" i NEED a label, hopefully Master will know!

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RE: Labels. - 9/16/2005 3:19:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

So nobody likes labels, except for me. i LIKE labels. Its how i organize my bookcase. Its how i organize everything. Its how when i look in my head, i make the pieces fit into the overall puzzle. i like specific labels, heck i label things as i see fit. My book case has hardbacks and paper backs and tall books, short books, and books about this. Yes and i look at these books, and i SEE its got a hard back and i say to myself, that there is a hardback book. Its label has a definition to me, and easy one that most others would agree with. i've language books.. and they go in my "language" section. Never had anyone disagree with me about my french books being labeled wrong and in the wrong section. Some of them do have multi lables, multi layered laybels. "Hardback, non fiction, parenting, tall" "paperback, tall, fiction, stephen king"

And i group things together and i know PRECISELY where it all fits. Where it goes. Top shelf and second from the bottom shelf. i even group my sections with other LIKE things. As in my gambling books arent near my reglious books. LOL

i label everything in life this way, to a point. My dishes, my animal cabinet, whatever. People too and even i. Most dont like labels, but i do. Call it a personal prefence, but i do think that most have some sort of "labeling" that goes on in their head. Person walks down the street.. its a male.. goes in the male group and so on.

Problem is. i lost my label. i NEED my label, its how the world goes round and round in my head (ketchup too) And if you dont like labels, thats fine, not asking anyone to live how i live.




Sounds like OCD to me...

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RE: Labels. - 9/16/2005 4:06:57 PM   
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yeah i'm told its organizational OCD and i've been told i've OCD traits <sticks out tongue>

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RE: Labels. - 9/16/2005 4:18:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

So nobody likes labels, except for me. i LIKE labels. Its how i organize my bookcase. Its how i organize everything. Its how when i look in my head, i make the pieces fit into the overall puzzle. i like specific labels, heck i label things as i see fit. My book case has hardbacks and paper backs and tall books, short books, and books about this. Yes and i look at these books, and i SEE its got a hard back and i say to myself, that there is a hardback book. Its label has a definition to me, and easy one that most others would agree with. i've language books.. and they go in my "language" section. Never had anyone disagree with me about my french books being labeled wrong and in the wrong section. Some of them do have multi lables, multi layered laybels. "Hardback, non fiction, parenting, tall" "paperback, tall, fiction, stephen king"

And i group things together and i know PRECISELY where it all fits. Where it goes. Top shelf and second from the bottom shelf. i even group my sections with other LIKE things. As in my gambling books arent near my reglious books. LOL

i label everything in life this way, to a point. My dishes, my animal cabinet, whatever. People too and even i. Most dont like labels, but i do. Call it a personal prefence, but i do think that most have some sort of "labeling" that goes on in their head. Person walks down the street.. its a male.. goes in the male group and so on.

Problem is. i lost my label. i NEED my label, its how the world goes round and round in my head (ketchup too) And if you dont like labels, thats fine, not asking anyone to live how i live.

i mean i'm like Dominant with the other slave, not really a slave, but a slave with Master, alot of vanilla interaction, but with alot of slave rules. i just dont know quite where i fit. i am confused. though i doubt many others have this problem, i thought i'd throw it out there anyways.



Greetings,



My Master and I have talked about this very subject alot lately. How we would label ourselves, how he labels us,and how others label us. I personally have not ever been a fan of labels. Labels seem to confine people. I also see ALOT of people screaming, " well you can not be this or that because you do not do it like everyone else!"


qoute: And i group things together and i know PRECISELY where it all fits. Where it goes. Top shelf and second from the bottom shelf. i even group my sections with other LIKE things. As in my gambling books arent near my reglious books. LOL

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What happens if something or someone does not fit into your label?

My Master has defined us perfectly. We are mutts. Although I am atrained as a gorean slave, have lived rt as a gorean slave, he is not a gorean Master, we implement many of the gorean philosophies, but we also break some blantantly. We are also best friends, fiance's, parents, then you add in other labels such as goth,and wiccan.

Labels have their place, however; I define me. My Master defines me, us. Not the label that others put on myself, him, or our relationship.

Nika{Phoenix}
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RE: Labels. - 9/16/2005 7:54:41 PM   
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quote:

What happens if something or someone does not fit into your label?


create a new one

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RE: Labels. - 9/17/2005 6:20:06 AM   
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If you can answer one question……..: “Who Am I?” then you know where you stand in the Wheel of Life. Then labels have a greater meaning for you. If you can not answer that question with complete certainty and complete self knowledge, (many people are never able to answer it, then labels can be terribly misleading and the cause of so many hurts because you didn’t know the label’s contents relationship with YOU.

I’m a Virgo and have a predisposition to place everything into their correct boxes and stack them in their appropriate places (In my mind). For me a label is nothing more than a brief overview of the contents of the box so I can be prepared for it to appear in a general way and not have too many unpleasant or pleasant suprises.


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RE: Labels. - 9/19/2005 10:52:26 AM   
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That is a great point Ironbear. I am not a fan at all of labels. I tent to think of labels being rigid and constricting. I think of labels as black/wite and what do you do with grey? If your labels are just a general and loose overview of what is to come then I guess that I am in favor of that. I'm not sure how many others think about how they label things the same way though

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