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DesFIP -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:13:52 AM)

Actually, I'm not allowed to refer to myself in lowercase. I had some major self esteem issues when we met and he spent a great deal of time building me up, having me refer to myself as a second class citizen would be counterproductive.

In addition, I was an English major. I just find it irritating as hell. Plus it wouldn't come naturally to me, therefore leaving me in the position of thinking about pronouns and not about communicating with him. Anything that interferes with communication and understanding is not a good thing, IMO.



hejira92 -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:17:47 AM)

I don't do the whole slash-speak thing (W/we, Y/you) because it is too burdensome for typing. I do use the capital when referring to Him, but not the lower cap "i". I think it shows respect without being too pompous or affected.
 
Master has never asked for this, but He seems to like it, as I've seen Him use it in His postings.
 
I adhere to the "whatever floats your boat" philosophy. Who am I to judge another's WIITWD?



Mercnbeth -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:18:29 AM)

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So others who are not me, what do you think of D/s grammar.


that it isn't necessary to insult the manner in which other people type or refer to folks they are in relationships with, in order to state a personal preference against the practice.

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I am one who thinks that the whole i instead of I and O/our and you vs You thing is retarded. But Master says that I write to him in lowercases...


this slave doesn't regard any of Master's preferences as "retarded"...they represent HIS wishes and desires, are of utmost importance and are treated with the respect they deserve.
 
if He preferred His slave to communicate as Yoda does...do it she would.  His pleasure is paramount.



kitttty -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:21:20 AM)

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First of all, why would you think anything that Master asks of you to be "silly"--are you not there to please Him?


Umm, cuz the brain in my head thinks it's silly.

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The " i will do it but i think its stupid"--what kind of devotion does that speak of?


Dunno. Maybe obedience means that much more when I do it despite not wanting to.

The pet refers to Master as Master, so she is his pet too. She just doesn't touch him at all. She is used to being dominated by Master through me.

And Master does not do slashy speak- he just likes the i rather than I and You vs you and so on.



sweetwenchie -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:22:34 AM)

The slashy thing is annoying to look at.  If that is someone's thing, whatever, but i do tend to not bother reading if it is filled with that.  As far as upper case lower case, sometimes i do, but mostly i am just too lazy to worry about capitalizing my i.  Work is about the only place i have to worry about proper capitalization.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:26:07 AM)

*shrug* It's like many other things we do...we do it to control and to foster mindfullness. Some like it, some don't. I do a variation of it.

Master Fire



Nats -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:28:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

I see that W/w, stuff as an online game.  How would that work out in real life meetings?  I keep picturing people talking like porky pig....  WWwwwWWwwwe should sssssssttop that.
Kyst


[sm=biggrin.gif] I view it the same way as Missokyst. For some reason I involuntarily roll my eyes when I receive an email like that. It just smacks of online fantasy. On the other hand it could be viewed as a nice gesture of respect from the sender. To each his own, and if you both enjoy it, then do it... just not my thing.



Owner4SexSlave -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:31:40 AM)

I really could care less about the caps of the words, compared to the meaning of what somebody is writing to me.   The case of words don't give me the warm and fuzzy feelings it's the thoughts and the meaning being expressed or exchanged.

If you are Dom to somebody else, it's up to you to express what you want or don't want.  If caps don't matter to you, then have it your way.  If all lower case letters give both you and your pet the warm and fuzzy feeling of D/s, all the more power to you guys.

The one thing here is that your pet is also your Masters as well.   This is a little confusing, because your Master wants his pet which is also yours to write a specific way.   Basically, ask yourself this question who is in charge of who again?

You and your master need to work this out.   It's obvious he wants it his way and not your and your mutal pets way.

I feel a bit like beating myself senseless in the forehead right now, because this whole business of D/s grammar, should not make nor break a D/s relationship itself.   Then again some people like to have the hangers in their closests spaced 1/2" apart from one another with clothing organized and ordered by color and type, or else their whole world will be outta order.  



kitttty -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:36:53 AM)

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I feel a bit like beating myself senseless in the forehead right now, because this whole business of D/s grammar, should not make nor break a D/s relationship itself. Then again some people like to have the hangers in their closests spaced 1/2" apart from one another with clothing organized and ordered by color and type, or else their whole world will be outta order.


Funny because my Master is hyperorganized.

Well, Master is in charge of both of us- I guess I just dont want to ask this girl to do this thing which I think is dumb. I dont mind doing dumb things for Master but Im not fond of asking someone else to do them too.

I hardly think its an issue to make a big deal of. Not a deal breaker or something but since our pet is new to us, I dont want to scare her off with this strange writing requirement. Maybe she will think we are too kooky for her.



sambamanslilgirl -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:40:01 AM)

personally i like lower caps because it makes typing on the laptop with nails easier for me esp while going 85 to 90 wpm. the only time i would cap a letter if it's in reference to Daddy.  we don't have a set protocol or whatever about how i should cap my letters while typing ...we're quite informal about BDSM formalities.

that being said - T/those W/who T/type L/like T/this D/drive M/me C/crazy!!

I/it T/takes T/too M/much T/time J/just T/to S/script A/a S/sentence -W/what A/a W/waste O/of E/energy!!

and you can certainly quote me on that too!

oy!



colouredin -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:41:31 AM)

I just say if it makes him happy isnt that the most important thing? If she runs off at that maybe she isnt worth all the hassle anyways? I mean surely the fundemental part is to please your Master, if she is your pet then surely she wants to please you. Therefore by your asking her you are making him happy which makes you happy which should make her happy phew I hope that made sense. 



crouchingtigress -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:42:37 AM)

Greedytop: I personally agree esp when the person is posting publicly, because it is annoying...but there are times it can be both endearing and useful when directed properly in a intimate exchange.



missunderstood88 -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:45:36 AM)

The use of X/x capitalization is very annoying to me.



GreedyTop -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:46:24 AM)

yes, good clause, CT.. PRIVATELY, yeah.. in a public forum, where many find the slashspeak to be silly at best, or annoying..well....



LadyHibiscus -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:51:04 AM)

The slashspeak thing annoys me.  The lowercase......well.......whatever works!  I don't look on a person differently if they don't capitalize their personal pronouns.  I can even handle folks referring to themselves in the third person, though it's hard for me. 

Obedience is primary to me.  It means that much more if my slave does something I require that they *don't* enjoy doing. 



LadyHathor -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:53:15 AM)

I find it a lot less annoying than bad spelling--put the two together and its drink time for Me! LOL


kittty:


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The " i will do it but i think its stupid"--what kind of devotion does that speak of?


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Dunno. Maybe obedience means that much more when I do it despite not wanting to


You do it, but you still have a side soliloquy with yourself that it's stupid---that to Me is not absolute obedience as it should be for the joy, the question of silliness should not enter into it, IMHO.



WalterRego -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:57:42 AM)

I understand that it is hogwash, but almost every wordprocessing program I've ever used will automatically change i to I. Thus having to backspace, type a small i next to the Capital I , then erase the capital I makes me aware of it, of the person being addressed  - and even more importantly, what I am saying and thinking. And then I tend to rephrase my thoughts and way of thinking. Instead of writing, "I would like" I may go back and change it to "Would You like or would it please You." That consciously reminds me to put Her first.  To think of I and even i as the subject of a sentence, as little as possible.  So in that sense, using and being aware of using a lower case i has a salutory effect, more on my way of thinking than my writing.

There are so many different variations and so many people have their own preferences that I always ask at the beginning of a relationship if it matters ( as well as how does She want to be referred to: Lady, Mistress, Ma'am etc.) Even so I am not rigid about it, sometimes I go back and forth in an e-mail.

But what I'm really curious about is what does "pet" mean to you? Same as, less than sub or slave? Something different? And how does pet use her paws to type anything in the first place?



colouredin -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 10:59:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor


You do it, but you still have a side soliloquy with yourself that it's stupid---that to Me is not absolute obedience as it should be for the joy, the question of silliness should not enter into it, IMHO.



I dunno there are times when I think, oh gosh I so dont want to do that but then do it anyways. For example Sir was feeling down a few days ago and decided he wanted to put marbles up my nose "for a cheap giggle" and I thought oh how embaressing then blushed and found him some marbles. I dont think that you can stop your internal thoughts like that.



AquaticSub -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 11:00:26 AM)

I think it's silly and probably wouldn't enter into a relationship where it was required. It is too much of a turn-off. I've heard all the reasons for doing it and I simply don't agree with them.



crouchingtigress -> RE: W/we, I vs i- D/s grammar (2/18/2008 11:03:17 AM)

wonderful insight walter...lovely to read.

however i am afraid to answer your question about pet on this thread. i think it might derail the topic of slashy speak...but i would happily reply to a thread you start on the topic as that i do definatly treat subs and pets differerntly.[;)]



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