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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 9:36:59 AM

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anything other than the nose, ears, and navel...that is pierced...i dont find very appealing...and having been apart of tattoo/piercing sites/forums i have seen them in very ODD places.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 9:44:44 AM

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My girl really would like to have her ankle and the webbing between her big toe pierced. She's been having problem finding a professional that is willing do this, because of the risks involved.

She has been talking about doing this to herself, for lack of finding anybody professionally willing to do it.

Any input of this would be greatly appreciated.

It never ceases to amaze me. go ask a pros advice get a second or 3rd's advice. They all say the same thing don't do it. In other words your hearing what they are saying just not listening. And then think awww screw it I may just as well do it myself. To top if off think to yourself in a "light bulb moment". Let me ask a bunch of complete strangers and hear their views on it. Come on get real the answer is obvious.

I wish you well. BadOne

It's always wise to get advice from those who have actually done the more extreme before attempting the more extreme. Good and Bad experiences, advice, pros and cons. Now it would not be very fair of me to simply say NO to her doing this, without first learning more about this topic, the risks involved and picking at other people's brains, and getting the wonderful links to the resources so far.

Besides, I'm learning a few new things today about all this. I never had a good reason to look into this before.   So if somebody shares their knowledge and thoughts and points me in the right directions.   That's a hell of a lot better compared to being ingorant about the subject.

Yes, people actually do extreme and risky things at times.   It's a bit like trying to fit Edge Play neaty into RACK or SSC.   Hell some people suspend themselves from hooks pierced through their body and live to talk about it.

Hell, I knew this was a edgy topic before I posted it. Yes, so the body mods in question are a little extreme, risky and off the beaten path.    She also has expressed an interest in being branded. There are risks with that as well.

Again, I'm trying to gain a little knowledge so I myself know and understand the risks involved, pros and cons.   Not looking for anybody to make the decision about doing this or not.

Oh crap, wait nobody ride skateboards because they are not safe, there's an element of danger and risk involved.   Wait, everybody must wear their seat belts because of the risk involved in not doing so.   Not everybody plays everything completely safe all the time.

OK, think I'm gonna return to my closet and unscrew the light bulb and try pulling on the chain for awhile, see what happens.   I think it was clear to everybody in the OP that I acknowledged that she was having a hard time finding a pro shop area to do because of the risks involved. Think that light bulb was working just as fine as a 100 Watt one does.

Now I'm just looking around the room to see what's really here, since there's a lot of light to see by now.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 9:48:56 AM

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:: cringe ::

Yeah, that one made me Cringe as well. My answer to that one is NO WAY in HELL.... Double Cringe.. Think I'd rather go play with guns instead or something less extreme.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 9:50:58 AM

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Well, I'm sorry, but it is kinda...not bright.
You ask the experts, who have done ALL kinds of piercings in all KINDS of places.
There are valid reasons they will not do them. Do you think they don't want to do a job for which they will be paid?
But they do not want to be sued for doing something that a reasonable person with piercing knowledge would not do.
Do you have the money for the surgery that may have to be performed if this home-grown ankle piercing goes awry? (as it's almost inevitably going to do)
Do you have the money for a wheelchair when she is no longer able to walk anymore?
There's a big difference with being branded, and someone piercing your ankle.
You do realize your ankle flexes and contracts while you walk right?
And you do realize you NEED your ankles to walk?
Yanno, just tell her to go get a nice tattoo, or a clit hood piercing or something.
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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 10:32:00 AM

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It's always wise to get advice from those who have actually done the more extreme before attempting the more extreme. Good and Bad experiences, advice, pros and cons. Now it would not be very fair of me to simply say NO to her doing this, without first learning more about this topic, the risks involved and picking at other people's brains, and getting the wonderful links to the resources so far.

No doubt which you did when you asked the experts and they all refused to do.

Besides, I'm learning a few new things today about all this. I never had a good reason to look into this before.   So if somebody shares their knowledge and thoughts and points me in the right directions. That's a hell of a lot better compared to being ingorant about the subject.

To my mind you already asked the pros and there explaining to you it's far to dangerous. And you like maybe the "experts" are wrong I think I will "shop the answer until I find someone who agrees with me"

Yes, people actually do extreme and risky things at times.   It's a bit like trying to fit Edge Play neaty into RACK or SSC.   Hell some people suspend themselves from hooks pierced through their body and live to talk about it. Hell, I knew this was a edgy topic before I posted it. Yes, so the body mods in question are a little extreme, risky and off the beaten path.    She also has expressed an interest in being branded. There are risks with that as well.

I don't consider general body piercing edgy or extreme. I will concede others might.

Oh crap, wait nobody ride skateboards because they are not safe, there's an element of danger and risk involved.   Wait, everybody must wear their seat belts because of the risk involved in not doing so.   Not everybody plays everything completely safe all the time.

Yes I know it's called acceptable risk. Tto my way of thinking if a couple of experts tell me no that's what I call Unacceptable risk. But that's just me.

OK, think I'm gonna return to my closet and unscrew the light bulb and try pulling on the chain for awhile, see what happens.   I think it was clear to everybody in the OP that I acknowledged that she was having a hard time finding a pro shop area to do because of the risks involved. Think that light bulb was working just as fine as a 100 Watt one does.

Heres the thing just maybe the pros are concerned about the liability involved that could put your girl in the hosp and their insurance company cancels them cuz you sue them. And your like I'll do it myself. Which I don't take issue with. Just be prepared to take you girl to the doc for antibiotics due to the infection. Or worse yet quoting Steel

This is a site dedicated to the HORROR storied from doing HAND webbing which is a more durable piece of skin which is less affected by toxins through sweat. Meaning it is harder to get an infection on you hand then your foot. "one slip could cause a Palsey Rupture (Not the Proper Term it's what the doc called it when my friend pierced his own tongue and severed the vein in the middle of his tongue) Half his face droped and lost musscle control he looks better now but he never returned to what he was like before."

Hows that light bulb burning now?

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 10:34:17 AM

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Well, I'm sorry, but it is kinda...not bright.
You ask the experts, who have done ALL kinds of piercings in all KINDS of places.
There are valid reasons they will not do them. Do you think they don't want to do a job for which they will be paid?
But they do not want to be sued for doing something that a reasonable person with piercing knowledge would not do.
Do you have the money for the surgery that may have to be performed if this home-grown ankle piercing goes awry? (as it's almost inevitably going to do)
Do you have the money for a wheelchair when she is no longer able to walk anymore?
There's a big difference with being branded, and someone piercing your ankle.
You do realize your ankle flexes and contracts while you walk right?
And you do realize you NEED your ankles to walk?
Yanno, just tell her to go get a nice tattoo, or a clit hood piercing or something.
Seriously.

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Christina, I already flat outright told her no way that I did not want her to do this to herself. I also promised I would research this subject a little. She has seen pictures of Ankle piercings before.   So logically, this means that if somebody has done it and is doing it, it can be done.  When we talked about this, she said nobody had the experience in doing these types of piercings along with the risk factors involved.   She did not get the ideas for these piercings out of the blue. She has seen hand webbing done before, that's where she got the idea for doing this to the webbing of her feet between her big toe.

As others have pointed out webbing peircing not lasting for long as well.

Sure, some professionals in many trades don't do jobs they can't handle or don't like the risks involved. Basically this makes them responsible people. There are also those who do take on higher risk jobs/work that know their stuff.   Just because a couple of pro shops in the local area turned it down does not mean it can not be done.   I'm just exploring this some more, seeing if there is anybody out there that does this, has had it done.

It's interesting I have found some good sucess stories and some really bad ones so far.   This is regarding Ankle peircings.   Have you ever had your ankle peirced, I somehow don't think you have. Do you do peircings for a living? It's obvious from some of the things I have read on the net today, that Yes.. some professionals will take money and pierce ankles. If anybody peirces her ankle it will be done by somebody who's done it before.   If an expert ankle peircer tells her, I'm sorry.. I won't peice your ankle because (insert reason).   OK, I'm all for the whole idea being axed completely.   Right now, I'm just gathering information and learning. Which to me sounds like a bright idea so far.

I'm totally against doing this home grown style. It was my intent to do some research today, to see if there are pro's out there that will do it. We do not live in a very metro area, where there are a lot of body mod professionals hanging around. Any professional will work to the best of their abilities (some times that's even questionable) and experiences.

If she even attempts to do this at home, I'm gonna be pissed off. I've not fully made up my mind one way or another on all this yet. I need to go back to reading some more horror and success stories. At least if I say, NO I don't want you to do it, I'll be able to share with her some of the real life horror stories. If I feel comfortable in giving the Green Light, we both will have talked about the risks involved, issues involving healing and infection and what it will require.   Basically, she needs to accept and agree to the conditions surrounding healing and keeping things clean. I will be keeping a check on things as well. IF and IF this gets done, it's gonna be by somebody who has done these type of piercing before.    Also, need to set up a game plan about aborting the piercing totally if it's not healing properly or infiction starts to set in.

A little hard to believe nobody else is doing this, when there are diagrams and material like this on the net itself.
http://www.bodyjewelleryshop.com/body_piercing_information/location_types/surface_ankle.cfm

Basically this tells me to allow for 8 weeks of healing time to occur. This might not be practical because of the type of work she does for a living. So this whole idea may just remain as an idea.   She would have to agree to not doing certain activities for period of time, and perhaps even sacrifice other activities for just having these piercing.   Issues that perhaps she has not even thought about.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 10:34:49 AM

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many people have brought up BME which is a great site for some of the more extreme stuff. the problem I have had with it is that it is often less moderated. being someone can put up there "experience" and others will read it and say "well that is what this person did so I'm going to repeat that" but like I said it is STILL a GREAT RESOURCE...

another resource that I love is www.tribalectic.com they have a professional piercer message board that you must register and be approved for as well as a public side. this is good becuase it keeps alot of pro's around the public boards and any poor information gets disproved pretty damn quickly.

this topic has come up on both boards and not as with your experience already: many many professionals were quick to prove WHY it would not work.
the Idea of piercing going throught the ankle(behind the achilles tendon) is just not realistic. as in: DON"T FUCKING TRY IT if you have any sense about you.
the idea of not going through some part of the ankle but rather just piercing some skin. well that falls under "surface piercing" and you can easily search BME or Tribalectic about the pro's con's and tips and advice about it. but realistically you have very little chance of it lasting more then a year. the mechanical stress of the area(especially combined with irritants such as socks and shoes and stockings and pant legs and well Walking... would make it almost impossible to not migrate.

similarly the toe web piercing would be the same. the mechanical stresses combined with the harsh dark humid enviorment would make it almost impossible to heal. assuming you didn't do major damage in the piercing itself.

now for the sake of argument: if you really wanted to have some form of Bod Mod. I would stear more towards tattoo cutting or branding for the toes/webs still hard to heal and would require some time off the foot and a lack of socks/shoes for a little while. but still much better then forcing to body to heal a wound being held open by a piece of metal getting tugged on and kicked around.

for the ankle tattoo or scarification are good options but you would be more wise to look into transdermal implants. having a small metal disk inserted under the skin with the jewerly that screws into that would be much more realistic to something in that area. it would still be a Large challenge and would require alot of research on the human body and biomechanics to decide where the best location to place such an implant would be. but at least there is a chance.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 10:37:59 AM

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You can probably find someone willing to do it for money, but that doesn't make it a good idea or them a good piercer. One of the reasons I adore my piercer is because she will flat out refuse to pierce something that shouldn't be pierced. Just because you can pinch the skin and put a needle through doesn't mean you should put jewelry there.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 10:42:00 AM

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Owner.. I don't know how close you are to NJ.. but check out http://www.pleasurable.com/html/info_and_hours.html

I've dealt with them a couple of times, and they seem to know their stuff. If there's anyone in the area than can do what your girl is looking for, they'd probably know about them.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 11:00:10 AM

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Skylly7000,

Thanks for link and the advice and suggestions. I really appreciate it.

Some people seem to have the misconception that I've 100% made up my mind, to go an do something stupid like piercing her at home, and have the misconception that I have actually talked with any professional body piercers.

Thank for pointing towards a more reliable website that has a professional piercer message board.

Yes, the ankle piercing would be a surface piercing. Thanks for mentioning transdermal implants as well.

Thanks for understanding that all I was asking for was just information, and good reliable resources.

Cheers back at you.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 11:01:24 AM

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Owner.. I don't know how close you are to NJ.. but check out http://www.pleasurable.com/html/info_and_hours.html

I've dealt with them a couple of times, and they seem to know their stuff. If there's anyone in the area than can do what your girl is looking for, they'd probably know about them.

Thanks Babe...

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 11:02:06 AM

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for you, darlin', anything ;) (well, almost ...LOL)

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 11:06:12 AM

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Well...it was what your posts seemed to be going toward.
Oh, and of course I don't have an ankle piercing!
I read this article: http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/11-surface/A30219/srfnotyo.html
particularly this part:
"Even though it didn't hurt too much, I wouldn't really recommend this piercing to anyone, as surface piercings are almost impossible to heal, it makes wearing boots impossible..."
Honey Master would be MAD!! *lol*

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 11:20:22 AM

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Well...it was what your posts seemed to be going toward.
Oh, and of course I don't have an ankle piercing!
I read this article: http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/11-surface/A30219/srfnotyo.html
particularly this part:
"Even though it didn't hurt too much, I wouldn't really recommend this piercing to anyone, as surface piercings are almost impossible to heal, it makes wearing boots impossible..."
Honey Master would be MAD!! *lol*

he he he... funny you pointed out something that struck me while reading the same article. I'm actually starting to think about how limiting it will make things by actually having these piercings. That one comment in this article made me think about the possible inconviences I would face as well as her. If it cuts into and limits certain types of play time or even vanilla actitivities, I don't think I'm liking the idea too much.

8 weeks of no dancing, careful sex, oh wait no boots. Everything I have been reading about being careful careful.. Oh yeah, like her ankles and toes won't curl up from playing. Plus, mentally how could I be in a proper fame of mind for rough sex and keeping dibs on her ankle and toes at the same time. Somehow, I sense the practical red flag being rasied on this idea. I can imagine us both stopping and staring at one another, realizing it was a totally bad idea if it cuts into activities. I suspect it might do this.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 11:28:56 AM

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i tend to randomly haunt tattoo and piercing parlors, and thus have had the privilege of seeing some very (for lack of a better word) INTERESTING piercings. one of which was actually a between-the-toes piercing. now, i am no stranger to blood and gore (*points to self* biology major, after all) but it gave me the creeps a little bit more than i expected. *shivers* i couldn't take it and had to look away just as the needle pierced her skin.

*shrugs* i guess that's 'cause i have very sensitive feet, and do not like the idea of anyone coming near them with a sharp, pointy objects...

either way, just make sure whatever piercing you get does not interfere with the activities you love

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 1:19:26 PM

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Owner.. I don't know how close you are to NJ.. but check out http://www.pleasurable.com/html/info_and_hours.html

I've dealt with them a couple of times, and they seem to know their stuff. If there's anyone in the area than can do what your girl is looking for, they'd probably know about them.

Greedy,
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OP: Yeah Pleasurable has a great rep. I don't know anyone there personally. but my one thing about piercers and tattoo artists has always been not to judge the shop but the individual. while one would always hope that a good shop would only hire good employees, with this industry its very much independant contractors... and well not everyone is as good as everyone else. (also with Ink people forget to take into consideration that a great ink slinger can really suck at the style you want done..but thats a different conversation now isn't it)

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 1:36:03 PM

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I am not a professional piercer yet but I do have a plethora of friends that are. I also have experience being a assistant throwing hooks for suspensions. That has given me a butt load of experience seeing bad piercings, tattoos, brands etc. If you search hard enough I am sure you will find some one willing to do this for you but as most every one else has said 1. It will migrate 2. The foot has a high rate of contact with bacteria. 3. The anatomy doesn't seem to be able to tolerate a piercing. Not to mention if it were done wrong the damage it could cause looks like it could be permanent and irreversible. http://www.wheelessonline.com/image4/foot49.jpg Just look at the pic to get a better idea of what's involved. Hopefully this will dissuade you from making a bad decision. If not please let us know how it goes

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 3:53:43 PM

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Skully, no. Well, I lived in Philly when I was a kid. The reason I know of PP is because I used to drive trucks for a living, and a company I worked for was based in Wayne. Someone there pointed me to PP.

P2r..I couldn't get that link to work :(

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/19/2008 4:55:33 PM

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Owner, i dont have feet piercings. i *do* wear three toe rings at all times. (actual rings, not "adjustable made for toes" rings. one on the left second toe, two on the right second toe.)

i have issues with shoes at times because of them. i cannot wear thongs (flip-flops) at all, because there's too much irritation. same thing with a shoe that fits a bit snugly, it hurts being pinched. i read what you said about being careful, and yeah, any healing piercing you have to worry about that.

i had nipple piercings that migrated after i changed the barbells for rings, because the rings were too small. i can imagine the risk for migration or rejection would be greater with the surface type piercings, as with the web piercings between the toes.

good luck with this.

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RE: Ankle and between the toe piercings? - 2/20/2008 8:17:26 AM

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Here is the adress of the piercing studio (in belgium) where i had my hood piercing done, they speak english and they are really friendly. Maybe could they give you information about the risks.Unhopefully that is all I can "do" for you.

Hope I helped a little

www.arkel.be

the website is available in english

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