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justt13 -> breath play (2/22/2008 9:19:03 AM)

I had my first experience with breath play this past weekend and found it quite scary.  There was no pleasure in it at all for me beyond trying to be a good sub and taking it for my Master.  I'm so eager to please him.  Looking back at it I am proud of how well I managed despite my fear.  I kept trying to get myself to a happy relaxed place while it was happening and I couldn't do it.  I just got scared and fought it.  I'm wondering if other subs could share their experiences and tell me what they find enjoyable about it, what they don't like, and ways to make it manageable.  I'm trying to decide if I want it to become a hard limit or if I could attempt to try to handle it again.  I trust my Master completely, but so far I've found pleasure in most everything we've done so this is a new avenue.  I hate caning, but I'd almost choose being caned over having a bag tied over my head.

All thoughts are appreciated.  Thank you kindly!



GreedyTop -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 9:24:40 AM)

aww.. that sucks..

OK, I LOVE breath play.. but I HATE having bags over my head.  My preferred method is hands around the throat, although that is risky without getting some decent knowledge of the throat structure.
I had one top that used the method of covering my mouth and pinching my nose shut (not recommended while wearing nostril jewelry..LOL).
The hands on method, to me, is infinitely more personal -intimate -... so perhaps ask your master if he'd be open to trying one of those methods?

Sometimes, hearing the top whispering 'sweet nothings' into my ear, as he restricts my breathing, makes it more intense and pleasurable..

Hope that helps!



sweetwenchie -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 9:34:02 AM)

i'm going with GT here!   i adore breath play, but prefer feeling hands around my throat squeezing to having a bag over my head.  The more personal intimate approach excites the hell out of me. 

Have you spoken with your Master since and told him how you felt about that type of play?  There are many ways to indulge in breath play, perhaps finding another way to explore would be more exciting for you both. 

good luck



parttimehotty -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 9:34:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: justt13

I had my first experience with breath play this past weekend and found it quite scary.  There was no pleasure in it at all for me beyond trying to be a good sub and taking it for my Master.  I'm so eager to please him.  Looking back at it I am proud of how well I managed despite my fear.  I kept trying to get myself to a happy relaxed place while it was happening and I couldn't do it.  I just got scared and fought it.  I'm wondering if other subs could share their experiences and tell me what they find enjoyable about it, what they don't like, and ways to make it manageable.  I'm trying to decide if I want it to become a hard limit or if I could attempt to try to handle it again.  I trust my Master completely, but so far I've found pleasure in most everything we've done so this is a new avenue.  I hate caning, but I'd almost choose being caned over having a bag tied over my head.

All thoughts are appreciated.  Thank you kindly!


i had ALWAYS wanted to try this in my vanilla life and when i met my "Trainer" & he was hardcore damn!!!  Fantasy vs Reality............after the 1st few times, he decided to tighten his grip to the point where i was struggling. He whispered in my ear, "Let go, give me control. Trust me". He took it a bit slower for a bit, then when he became even rougher in later sessions, i always remembered him whispering in my ear and trusted him to let go in time and since i'm sitting here typing, i guess he did! [:D]



justt13 -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 9:46:41 AM)

If I remember correctly...He restricted my breathing three times during our session.  The first two were with the bag and the third was with him holding my nose and my mouth and having me look him in the eyes the whole time.  That third time was much more "comfortable" for me as he has most comforting peaceful eyes, but I still ended up fighting against his hand after the time had passed and I wanted to breath.  I'm wondering what the pleasure is for the sub...so could you please share about that as well?  Thanks again!



GreedyTop -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 9:53:52 AM)

honey.. it's NATURAL to fight it... self-preservation and all that :)  As long as he knows WHEN to stop, the fighting is natural.. (and IMO, part of the fun..LOL)



rubberpet -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 9:55:19 AM)

I have done breathplay quite a bit before and LOVE it.  I prefer a bag over my head or having my face buried in soft, dark places on my domme's body. [;)]  I don't like the hands around my throat...I'll snap out of subspace so quick.  The bagging method is a bit objectifying, but there is such a sense of intimacy when I see Mistress looking at me through the plastic that is suffocating me.  To see the evil in Her eyes as She takes delight in pushing me further and further.  Mix it with bondage and there are very few things as intense as that!  Yummy!!!

Breathplay, just like anything else scene related, is not for everyone.  Some love it, others don't.  Some subbies love being spanked and paddled, I don't.  It's just me.  My advice is to speak to your master and express your concerns.  Maybe start out slowly, like you controling the bag on your head until you are comfortable with having something on your head to start with.  If you're controling it and it gets a bit scary, you can pull it off.  Just a thought.



GreedyTop -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 9:56:29 AM)

for me, it's the risk factor, the taboo... it's also that I wouldn't do it woth someone I didnt trust, and having that level of trust is a rush in and of itself.
The endorphins/adrenaline don't hurt, either ;)

I've never really analzyzed why I like it so much.. but I'll give it some thought, and if I can come up with a coherent answer I'll let ya know :)



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 10:24:38 AM)

I'll take the route of saying- expecting you to enjoy everything your master does to the same level that he does is fairly unrealistic.  I know slaves who attempt this goal and make consistent effort towards that point, but the recognize and are OK with the fact that they are not there, may never get there and are still good slaves.

If you get down on yourself for not having a "happy" reaction every time something happens, you're just setting everyong up for unnecessary grief.  I understand you want to always be the good happy pleasing girl, but I think what you both want is a REAL long term solid relationship- and that means it won't always be ice cream and lollipops and smiles. 

So accept that first and foremost.  Now, the other issue of learning to enjoy this particular act is another story- I always suggest people try something at least three times before they really make up their minds about it.  So much can go into ONE experience that isn't at all a part of another that you want to allow for variances.  It also depends on how much your master wants to be a part of the process of having you enjoy the kink.  He can go a long way towards getting you in the mood and mindset to accept and enjoy it, but not all masters want to do that.



tigerseye -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 10:27:24 AM)

i adore breath play as well.  i wouldn't be able to deal with a bag over my head cause i am seriously claustrophobic so he puts his hand around my neck (i'm really small so he is able to wrap just one hand around my neck lol). 
for me it's the trust in it.  i have to be able to trust him like mad and know that he'll know how far to go, how far to push it so that i'm not in danger.  once he pushed it a bit farther than i was used to, and fought back a bit...he whispered for me to trust him, at which i calmed down

my advise would be to try it once or twice more, and beforehand talk about it.  let him know about your fears and how you want to do this to make him happy, but you need a little help.
i hope everything works out *smiles and hugs*



kimiikins -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 10:38:27 AM)

There is something to be said about "Loss of Control." I love the loss of control as well as breath control as long as it's not with a bag. I freak out with anything over my head/face.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 10:51:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: justt13
I'm trying to decide if I want it to become a hard limit or if I could attempt to try to handle it again. 


Read this link. http://members.aol.com/Oldrope/breath.htm written by a medical professional. When you're done, ask yourself the following questions.

1. Are you willing to risk your life?
2. Are you willing to take the chance of your master facing lifetime incarceration?



Aileen1968 -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 11:00:37 AM)

I enjoy breath play because of my fear of it.  I get off on that fear.  You don't seem to enjoy the fear from it so I'd probably talk to him and explain that to him.



OmegaG -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 11:01:55 AM)

FR

Breath play is scary, I'm not particularly fond of struggling to breath and it's not something I'd ask for.  With that said; m'Lord likes seeing me struggle to breath, he doesn't want me to relax and just let it happen.  Because of my reaction all it takes is a leather hood that restricts my breathing but doesn't completely stop it to get the desired result.  He also uses his body to restrict or stop my breathing which causes me to stuggle to find a way to breath.  Because it pleases him, I enjoy it.

I guess I'd find out what it is about breath play that he likes, it might be that knowing what he's getting out of it will change your ability to accept it.



ThundersCry -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 11:08:06 AM)

I like...breath play.
 
I had to experience it and was taught...and there was a time I said...no way. Like others have said, with the right partner boundaries and limits change.
 
I use my hands, rope or a modified belt that can be taken off QUICKLY...
 
There is nothing so intimate as taking ones breath away right after the command to cum has been given...for me.
 
I will say, and others have touched on this point as well , that in the back of my mind there is always that thought of...what if she does not come to,as sometimes they do and will pass out for a matter of seconds. Not a thought I enjoy but it does make me aware of paying very close attention.
 
It is not always about taking away ones breath...there are many froms of breath play...
 
Read up....enjoy.
 
D



justt13 -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 11:23:35 AM)

I do plan on talking to Him about it.  We always do before the next session.  I like to have a little time to think as I usually can't clearly articulate what I want to say right after a session.  But I will ask Him about what He enjoys.  I wanted to have other opinions and thoughts to add to my understanding before I brought it up with Him.  I like some fear and suspense in play, but I didn't like getting to the point where I actually felt fight or flight set in...since when you are bound to a table you have neither of those options available.  With anything else when I get fight or flight feelings and I'm bound I realize I can't go anywhere and just start to relax and accept/enjoy it.  But without breathing...I didn't really know how to react...besides try to figure out a way to fight against it.  I think He enjoyed seeing my struggle knowing that He was the one who could release me from that.  The feelings of safety and comfort from Him when it was over almost made it worth it...but not completely.

I love the CM community...it's so nice to hear of other experiences and help me understand my own experiences...thanks so much...your wisdom is invaluable!



AAkasha -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 11:26:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rubberpet

I have done breathplay quite a bit before and LOVE it.  I prefer a bag over my head or having my face buried in soft, dark places on my domme's body. [;)]  I don't like the hands around my throat...I'll snap out of subspace so quick.  The bagging method is a bit objectifying, but there is such a sense of intimacy when I see Mistress looking at me through the plastic that is suffocating me.  To see the evil in Her eyes as She takes delight in pushing me further and further.  Mix it with bondage and there are very few things as intense as that!  Yummy!!!

Breathplay, just like anything else scene related, is not for everyone.  Some love it, others don't.  Some subbies love being spanked and paddled, I don't.  It's just me.  My advice is to speak to your master and express your concerns.  Maybe start out slowly, like you controling the bag on your head until you are comfortable with having something on your head to start with.  If you're controling it and it gets a bit scary, you can pull it off.  Just a thought.


Just curious rubberpet as I know you are in a long distance relationship - is the bag play you are doing with your current Mistress (via web cam or phone) or something you did in person with someone else? If it's remote, how do you work around safety?  Very hot!!!

Akasha



Wildfleurs -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 11:42:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: justt13

I had my first experience with breath play this past weekend and found it quite scary.  There was no pleasure in it at all for me beyond trying to be a good sub and taking it for my Master.  I'm so eager to please him.  Looking back at it I am proud of how well I managed despite my fear.  I kept trying to get myself to a happy relaxed place while it was happening and I couldn't do it.  I just got scared and fought it.  I'm wondering if other subs could share their experiences and tell me what they find enjoyable about it, what they don't like, and ways to make it manageable.  I'm trying to decide if I want it to become a hard limit or if I could attempt to try to handle it again.  I trust my Master completely, but so far I've found pleasure in most everything we've done so this is a new avenue.  I hate caning, but I'd almost choose being caned over having a bag tied over my head.

All thoughts are appreciated.  Thank you kindly!


Personally I love breath play, but I definitely have different types of breath play I enjoy more than others.  Being dunked underwater and bags over my head are probably my least favorite forms of breath play - I find I have to spend a lot of energy just not freaking out.  While on the other hand if he puts his hands, a noose, or whatever around my neck I just lay back happy and dumb like a lamb waiting to be slaughtered.

Edited to add: What I enjoy about breath play is that for us its very much a physical manifestation of the control he has over me.  That he controls me down to the breath I have - deciding when and if I can breathe or not.

C~



littleone35 -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 11:45:11 AM)

Master and i don't do breath play we both decided it is too dangerous and too much could go wrong.  That being said Master still takes my breath away every time i see him.

Matt's littleone



breatheasone -> RE: breath play (2/22/2008 11:47:34 AM)

Ditto what littleone says....BTW I have asthma so I have my own buildt in breath play! LOL



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