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Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian to se... - 2/22/2008 9:37:08 PM   
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I am sometimes confused with this topic.

Deep in my heart and soul I know I wish to serve a Black Master or M/F couple, with Mistress being of any race.

Sometimes, I feel it is placing non-Caucasian Doms and Dommes like an object, or objectifing them.  But on the other hand, it is written, I think, on my slave soul to submit to the superiority of a African-American Male.

I'm relativley experienced, but only with Caucasian Masters and Mistresses because of where I'm from, Ireland has only now, in the last 10 years or so seen a diversity of cultures build up in her population, soon these wonderful and new vibrant cultures and voices, which I feel the Irish have welcomed very well so far, will burst forth their own Masters and Mistresses, but it could be a way off as well.

But, am I wrong to think like this?

All advice welcome Sirs and Madams.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/22/2008 9:41:30 PM   
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It's your preference, I don't see anything wrong with it.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/22/2008 9:47:29 PM   
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I feel your pain my pasty brothah....Many times when looking for the "other dark meat" I wonder if I am being racially insensitive.

Of course if I were stuck in Ireland continually playing with the drunks might become rather tedious at some point in time....In all actuality you are probably just trading off vices...Do you really prefer the smell of Guiness to Cognac?

Although the Irish be a rather translucent lot and I can see why the idea of a sunburn and easily identifiable veins could be replaced with dark skin and an inabilty to pronounce "th"....Please think this thang through.

Whatever your pursuits I wish you nothing but the best.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/22/2008 10:19:00 PM   
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Wrong how?

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/22/2008 10:39:54 PM   
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Personally, I see no problem with whatever your preference is. There was a time when I was only dating black guys. I wasnt really attracted to white guys for some reason. That saying, "Once you go black, you dont go back." Not true in my reality. Cool guys are cool guys.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/22/2008 10:49:09 PM   
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Are you doing this for kink reasons, or racial reasons?  If it is your kink, then it doesn't really matter if others don't get it.

If you were trying to make some sort of social statement, that would be a different story.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/22/2008 10:54:24 PM   
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You might get some pushback and frustration- but such is life.  As long as you do see and value them as a person in ADDITION to enjoying the pure object that turns you on, you'll be ok.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/22/2008 11:23:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Are you doing this for kink reasons, or racial reasons?  If it is your kink, then it doesn't really matter if others don't get it.

If you were trying to make some sort of social statement, that would be a different story.

It's my kink, its part of what i get off on as a slave. there is no social statement to be made regarding race, not in the 21st century, we should all know at this stage that 'cool guys are cool guys"....@ Hearcream... thx...  
i'm pretty well educated, grad school, doctorate etc ...  i mention this not only in realation to studying and writing a lot about  race and gender theory, but also coz i chased the PhD as part of being a slave, i want to have something of the material world to bring to a prospective Master, to show that i'm mean the commitment.. if needs be i can work while he studies now...but that perhaps is another thread...

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I feel your pain my pasty brothah....Many times when looking for the "other dark meat" I wonder if I am being racially insensitive.

Of course if I were stuck in Ireland continually playing with the drunks might become rather tedious at some point in time....In all actuality you are probably just trading off vices...Do you really prefer the smell of Guiness to Cognac?


i must be one of the few Irish men who doesn't drink... LOL....   good to see Irish govt coming down heavy on that... we've a sterotype on an international cutlural front as drunks, but hey! did you ever see smoke without fire... or a cig/reefer!



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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Although the Irish be a rather translucent lot and I can see why the idea of a sunburn and easily identifiable veins could be replaced with dark skin and an inabilty to pronounce "th"....Please think this thang through.

Whatever your pursuits I wish you nothing but the best.


Thanks for the good wishes Sir.... i think it is a lot to do with having been with some Black Masters, although none on a more than 'three off' basis as they were travelling through. But it was not just the physicality of what i regard as beautiful skin, build, hair, body shapes etc, it was not completly of the materiality of the physical Black Masters bodies.  They also afforrded me a lot of freedom in my expression as a slave.... for example, sometimes i like to play in the 'sissy boy' arena, not very often, but i do get that itch and need to address my fem side... i've also needed to learn how to please Mistresses, at least orally, and it was only with Black Masters that those needs could be expressed without my fear of being rubuked.  I don't know if its because these Masters were ultimatley travelling through, although one did have a stay of a few months..  "Be free to be who you are as a slave" all of them said to me; or certainly words to that effect.. "you won't be allowed to forget whose Boss", it was a freedom never afforded to me by any European or White American Master's I had been with.  I really don't think that is a political thing, I think its more my coming to terms with having spent most of my life in a mono-ethnic country which is only changing now.
Sorry for such a long reply....
I have to ask you why you mention the 'th' Master






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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 12:02:48 AM   
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You want to submit to a black man.  Go for it.

Desire is neither racially sensitive nor egalitarian.  For that matter, it's not very PC.


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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 12:05:56 AM   
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No, it isn't insensitive. I prefer caucasian males, good for me. Someone else loves asians? Good for them too. We all have preferences, black, white, thin, fat, etc.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 12:20:45 AM   
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quote:

It's my kink, its part of what i get off on as a slave.


Since it doesn't even come close to certain taboo (as in criminalized) areas, I don't see where you should worry about how it is perceived. Keep on till you find someone who shares your views.


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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 9:27:07 AM   
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The only thing I think anyone can really question is the "the superiority of a African-American Male" comment. General superiority of any race is the very definition of racism. Beyond that the idea that you will best be fullfilled by serving a Master of a specific race is simply what you perceve to be the best thing for you. Nobody can argue with that.


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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 9:56:43 AM   
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I met one of the most physically beautiful "men" I have ever seen in front of a crowded grocery store selling poems.  He was a black man, vietnam vet, sitting in a wheelchair..  He had a face and an upper body that if he would of been standing would of made most women in the free world collapse..  When he spoke his voice was like a late night show, pillow talk.. and his being.. dear god... 

I spent a few weeks being his sex kitten...  yep, a sex kitten full of a mix of all of who I am..Never will forget a single second of it or understand it all ever....

I agree with the above posts..  desire is yours.. it is just  yours..   what ever it stems from with in you.. it is right......   we all have to draw our own lines on where we let it stop or continue.. or a definition on why we have that desire at all...... somedays I am a total lesbian.. somedays I crave a strong George Clooney type man on a bike with a pony tail... I need to bite on his leather jacket  or lick his chaps--- then it is me and the taste and smell of leather that is now the couple... wink...-- somedays I crave a manly man in a pretty special girrlie outfit......... so he can be my lesbian lover.. 

again our desires .... are OURS...   I am a healthy pervert, sounds like you are too "realsubdub"

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 10:11:49 AM   
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As long as its desires in atrraction and respect as a person, not some type of speciality thrill.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 11:21:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chocodelite4U

As long as its desires in atrraction and respect as a person, not some type of speciality thrill.


nicely said..I agree with that


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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 12:04:26 PM   
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Judgement of someone based on race or gender is not racism or sexism in any normal sense.  After all, people chose partners based on body size, height, hair color, eye color, scent, clothing, music pereferences, the way they walk, how much money they make, their perference in religion, ideals of family lifestyle,  or any other random thing.

So, no, it's not wrong to want someone of a certain race as a partner.  Of your own race, another, or anything else.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 12:09:35 PM   
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Your personal preferences are what they are and to deny them is to not be true to yourself.  Where intimacy is concerned, I'm not attracted to dark skin; I prefer white or Caucasian.  Whether or not my choices are pallatable to the rest of the world is irrelevant because I simply cannot and will not pretend I like something that I don't. 
 
Does that make me a racist?  Maybe, but I find Asian women quite attractive, too!  So I can either over-complicate my life trying to dissect every preference I have or stick with the simple truth that I know what I like and what I don't - and NO-ONE is more qualified in that department than me...! 
 
Focus.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 12:12:18 PM   
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I sought out a "Daddy" that is African American.  I was up front with him about my preference and asked him if it bothered Him.  He thought it was great and deals almost exclusively with white women subs.  When talking with me He often refers to Himself with references to His skintone, asking things like if I need my chocolate.  I have let him know that it was His looks which initially drew me to Him but His personality that has made me grow so close.  I think it's great to go after what you really want.  You owe it to yourself to try to fulfill your dreams.  Just don't be surprised if you get some backlash.  

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 12:14:33 PM   
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PS-  Look at it this way.  It's shallow to want someone based on their skin color, but not any worse than wanting a woman for her big boobs, or a man for his big penis.

It's really not uncommon.

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RE: Is it racially insenstive and thus non eglatarian t... - 2/23/2008 12:40:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Desire is neither racially sensitive nor egalitarian.  For that matter, it's not very PC.



Very well said.

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