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Reluctant Domme - 2/23/2008 2:56:00 AM   
Sal1942


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So, I think I have a problem. Not too long ago, I met a guy on CM, and we became good friends, and started dating. I'm 19, and though I had already had an interest in being Domme when we met, we kept the sex pretty vanilla at first, b/c i was a virgin. Now, we're engaged, sickeningly happy, but there is one issue. I'm not entirely positive that I'm truly a Domme. He's submissive, and I enjoy taking control during sex, but not all of the time. Sometimes, frankly, i'm just too lazy to whip out the crop and cuffs, I just want plain old vanilla sex. In fact, sometimes (i classify myself as a switch) sometimes i want him to dominate me, he can do it, he just prefers submission. I guess the problem is that I'm inexperienced, (and he knows this) and I feel like I should be trying harder to Domme, but I don't know what I'm doing, and I don't want to seem lazy. Outside of the bedroom, we're vanilla, 100%. Which is another thing that kind of blurs the line for me. It's difficult to separate the 'Domme' persona from the 'young woman in love' persona, and i'm not sure how to blend them.
I plan on talking to him about this, he's very understanding, I just thought I'd check and see if i could get any feedback before I do.
Thanks bunches!
By the way, this is a false account I created specifically so I could ask this question, so that's whynothing is filled in on my profile.
Hope to hear back
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RE: Reluctant Domme - 2/23/2008 4:12:35 AM   
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I like the phrase “sickeningly happy”.  That’s how my hubby and I are, too.  J

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I guess the problem is that I'm inexperienced, (and he knows this) and I feel like I should be trying harder to Domme, but I don't know what I'm doing, and I don't want to seem lazy.



I felt this same way when I first got together with my Al.  I was afraid I wasn’t meeting his expectations – or my own, really.  I tried to be more domly.  It didn’t work and it wasn’t any fun.  He was happy with who I was and content with the way our relationship was progressing.

If you’re sickeningly happy with your fellow and the relationship is working well for both of you, does it matter whether you’re “truly a Domme”?  He didn’t fall in love with a label, he fell in love with YOU.  Your relationship is going to change and grow as it goes along and you get to know each other better.  How you fit together will change, too, as you discover more about each other.  You can certainly guide things down a certain path or try to cultivate a particular dynamic, but since you’re both happy with each other and with your relationship, your goal should be to enhance what you have rather than to try to change it. 


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ORIGINAL: Sal1942

It's difficult to separate the 'Domme' persona from the 'young woman in love' persona, and i'm not sure how to blend them.



That will work itself out.  It’s weird moving into a serious relationship – changing from a “me” into a “we”.  It takes a while to figure out who you are in that context and where all of the pieces fit, but it will come.



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RE: Reluctant Domme - 2/23/2008 4:31:53 AM   
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If you stay together long enough, the vanilla sex will eventually need a "kick" to keep the excitement going. 
I think you will find the right time for the cuffs and crop.  Just don't rush it.  Enjoy the place you're at and when the honeymoon period wears off and you need to spark it up a bit....then let that little Domme go at it.
Meantime, read and educate yourself so that when you feel up to it, you will have more knowledge about what to do.

Truth be told, I won't even play with people your age.  I think you should be out living life and learning to live it on it's own terms before delving into a world of power exchanges and psychological head fucks.  The TNG may have access to information and skills much earlier than prior generations but no matter what you learn in a book, or seminar, or whatever, you just cant get 30 years of life experience in 20.  You just can't.

So enjoy your youth and innocent love.  The rest will come fast enough.
Good luck.




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RE: Reluctant Domme - 2/23/2008 8:32:11 AM   
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I agree with Mistress Vnus, 19 is awful young. Trust me, you are both still growing. Don't worry about being Domme enough for him, or you. Maybe a monthly play session to explore the depths of your dominance and his submission is all that is needed at this point.

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 2/24/2008 7:50:26 AM   
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Who ever said every scene must begin with sex?  Why not scene first and use it as a sexual catalyst?  Or separte your sex from scening? 

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 2/24/2008 3:01:16 PM   
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So if I understand you correctly:  you're in love, you're enjoying the sex, he makes you happy and, when you want him to dominate you, he's willing to accomodate?  Further, he's communicative and understanding, and so are you, yes?

I'll be honest, I'm having trouble seeing the problem here, beyond worrying about labels.

My advice?  Stop worrying about labels and just enjoy.  You've got a long life ahead of you, and plenty of time for experiementation.

Who cares if you're 'officially' the domme, or he is, or you're both switches?  Do what comes naturally, do what you enjoy, and if you feel that people are pressuring you to label the relationship, tell them to shove off.

If you both prefer it vanilla outside of the bedroom, there's nothing wrong with that!  If you find, after a time that you prefer it otherwise, change it!  (and if later still you find you want something else, change it again!).  Talk with him about what you want, and about what he wants.  Be ready to make some compromises, if they seem necessary.  But always stay open to the possibility of the relationship dynamic evolving to both of your mutual satisfactions.

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 2/25/2008 11:59:38 AM   
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This is a repost of an article I wrote awhile ago -- while it's not specifically about your situation, I think some of the advice might still be valuable:

"I just found out my boyfriend (or husband, lover, etc.) is submissive. I really love him and I want to make things work. I just don't "get it" - what am I supposed to do?"

This question becomes more and more common on these boards and other discussion groups and I get it a lot via email (and from friends in real life who know that I am "considerably kinky"). The answers and advice people give are so broad - some people like to give lists of kinky things to do, others recommend books and resources (who has time to read an entire book to answer a simple question? You don't need/want a degree in "female domination" anyway) and others tell you, "Oh, it can't be done. You either are dominant or you aren't - you can't fake it."

I think the biggest problem is that the advice people give is overwhelming, especially when they offer up suggestions for games to play, toys to buy, outfits to wear, or "scenes" to "enact." Talk about complicating a simple matter! I have a few strong opinions on the entire concept of female domination (for nervous beginners) and it comes down to a few simple guidelines and a very simple starting point to be off and running. In my opinion:

1) First things first. Your man has to back off and agree he will completely let you, the woman, take control of the pace, timing, and evolution of your femdom side. No more hinting, no more buying you toys or outfits, no more pointing you to web sites or stories, no more "helpful advice." To be empowered, you need to do this for one person: You. So if he can agree to drop it and let you figure it out, and not pressure you, you have made it past step one. Sadly, this is the most important step and the one that most couples cannot get past - the guy simply cannot drop it long enough to give the lady a little room to find her legs.

2) Forget everything you have read or heard about "female domination." You probably have a preconceived idea of what "femdom is" - and I can bet it ain't pretty! The stereotypical "dominatrix" with a whip and a bad sneer. The guy in the gimp outfit crawling around or barking like a dog. The pushiness that your husband/lover resorted to and nagged you with. The bad "Jerry Springer" episodes, "My husband fell in love with his dominatrix!” Magazine covers like "Bitches with Whips." Or the impossible-to-duplicate gorgeous, tall, blonde beauty with a cool demeanor and such sex appeal you know you could never pull THAT off. Forget it all - erase it from your mind. It's all BULLSHIT!

3) Accept and really BELIEVE this one very important truth about female domination: If your man really wants to submit to you (and he is not just a fetishist; trust me, he will know the difference if he has done his homework and he can be honest with you), you only have ONE thing to accomplish and do right. Just ONE thing! All the rest is gravy, and all the rest will fall into place for you once you accomplish this one thing. That one thing is this: Enjoy yourself and own your pleasure. That's IT. It sounds easier than it is, because it requires that two things happen - #1 and #2 above - you have to have a man who doesn't put expectations on you, and you have to give up those preconceived ideas about what female domination is. Those both are harder than you may think. When you start feeling uncertain, icky, uncomfortable, or resistant to the idea of dominating your man, it's because #1 is messing with your self confidence by putting expectations on you, or #2 you are putting expectations on yourself (both related to the above, as you can see).

4) Take control. Play. Frolic. Delight in his reactions and soak them in. This is the only "action" step in that it requires you to "do" something to your man. But instead of giving a laundry list, instead of pointing you to books or "how to tie your man up" or "buy these toys" or "pretend you are a person you are not" I will say simply - take control, frolic, and delight in his reactions. Snap your fingers and say "Kiss me here. No, right HERE." and when he does it, smile. Adopt a sense of unpredictability - the mystery and uncertainty will play tricks with his mind and put him in that place that he needs to be. He wants to be submissive; trust me, he will GO there, with just the slightest NUDGE from you. So many women are trying to use a jackhammer to accomplish a task that requires a flick of her fingers. Look him in the eyes, give him a command (that is directly related to your pleasure) and watch him follow through. Tell him to give you an orgasm. Direct his position during lovemaking. Pull his hair playfully, give him a swat on the butt and smile mischievously; do all the little, minor things that come more natural and with ease, and just watch how he reacts. Marvel in how you can push his buttons just by adopting a more selfish, and self serving, self-pleasing demeanor.

Once you complete 1 - 4 on this list, you have the foundation for what will evolve into a comfortable, enjoyable, passionate femdom relationship - so long as you are free from pressure to perform and given the chance to experiment and grow. The dynamic only requires a few things to grow - it requires a stress-free environment for you to thrive in, it requires that you ENJOY the premise of playful selfishness and control, and it requires that you are free from distractions that are usually related to stereotypes and expectations, both which can be eliminated if you are in a pressure-free relationship.

Of course, this is all my opinion; however, in my experience giving advice and helping friends, it seems the stumbling blocks are always the same. Him being "shot out of a cannon" with regards to wanting/needing his desires met (by no fault of his own, quite often, it's just what happens when you have pent up dreams and fantasies for so long) and her feeling pressured, uncomfortable, nervous, and a little disgusted/put off by the "idea" of what "female domination" is. By starting at square one, I think *most* women can find something exciting, erotic, and playful about being in control -- but most importantly, they get a charge out of seeing how their man reacts. I speak about this as a woman who was "born" with the desire to dominate a man; it's never been about the acts, the toys or the scenarios -- it's *always* about seeing the reactions in a man I lust for. You cannot deny the rush that comes from seeing what a little button pushing will do. I think this even rings true for "Susie Homemaker" or the most vanilla woman on the block. And if she's willing to at least read this message board, she's got an open enough mind to learn to enjoy it.

Akasha

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 2/25/2008 12:39:10 PM   
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Well, I had a nice big reply all planned out but I'll scrap it after reading the other responses, especially AAkasha's.   OP, I agree with the others that at 19 and relatively new to sex, let alone the lifestyle, I don't think you need to be making major decisions right now but just learning and having fun. Get to know yourself, your body, and your partner's pleasures and body. Roles will come in time with growth.
 
As for being a reluctant Domme, you wouldn't be the first. I know I was one 8 years ago. I was approached by a friend's mentor and asked to switch. He felt that although I was an excellent submissive, he believed I could be an outstanding Domme.  I reluctantly did and discovered that I have a very hidden, cruel streak that no one sees until its time for punishment. *evil laughter* I never would have known how creative I could be until then. Now it's just a part of me but then again, I'm quite a bit older than you. LOL.... So relax and take your time. Just enjoy each other for now.  

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 2/27/2008 4:17:30 PM   
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Wonderful reply

To the main poster: You are about the same age as me and I had the exact same questions as you at the start of my little D/s relationship-thing!

I was confused an so was my pet (whom had been my friend for 3 years prior) about what our emotions and actions meant. We're very curious and reading up on so much stuff ... it's the reason why I found this place! So many intellegent (and not so intellegent) discussions are to be read and learned from! We haven't done the sex thing yet, but see no need in it. We are more into testing power exchange with foreplay and such before we even venture into those waters  Most of the time though, we're very happy just being vanilla to the real world. Many days can go by with very few D/s interactions and just simply are friends in love.... some days you just can't stop us

Everyone is different in how they feel and are compelled to act upon these feelings. Question all you want and go hunting for your own answers.... but don't try and fit into a box! We're just kids still, really... we still have lots to learn and experiance before it's all said and done :) Don't be too quick to file yourself away.

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 2/27/2008 4:39:32 PM   
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Yep great info here!! Enjoy the youth while you are still limber, before the stretch marks become tiger strips and you taste like coffee and cigarettes instead of young couchie honey. lol. I love the flavor of young unadulterd flesh on a Saturday mourning. Catch them to young and they leave a bitter unripe taste in your mouth. lol, 

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 3/11/2008 1:25:07 AM   
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Thanks to everyone who replied, and to anyoe out there with a question like mine, just letting things progress as they do IS really great advice.
Again, I appreciate the tips, and the reassurances.

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 3/11/2008 1:37:14 AM   
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Well, if you can wrap your head around the idea that bottom/masochist and submissive aren't necessarily the same thing, then you might be able to work with him service Topping you in bed. You get exactly what you want...because you order him to give it to you. He is in service through Topping.

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 3/11/2008 11:22:34 AM   
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Well, if you can wrap your head around the idea that bottom/masochist and submissive aren't necessarily the same thing, then you might be able to work with him service Topping you in bed. You get exactly what you want...because you order him to give it to you. He is in service through Topping.

Master Fire



Seconding this.  Just because you're taking a dominant role doesn't mean you've got to tie him up and beat him silly all the time.  There are many "smaller" ways you can exert your dominance just by the way that you phrase things.  Instead of asking him to do something, get a sexy smile on your face, get nice and close to him, and look in his eyes... then TELL him what you want him to do.  Example:

Don't ask, "Honey, will you please take out the trash?"
DO say "Hello, darling.  You're going to take the trash out for me... and make sure you bend over to pick it up nice and slow so I can check out that tight little ass of yours."

Works wonders for me and mine.  I'm still relatively new to being a femdom, but the best advice I've ever been given is to start off slowly and work your way up.  It'll build your confidence, establish a real sense of a "power exchange" rather than it just being "LOL I R TIE U UP NOW *whipcrack*"  Physical sensations, such as being restrained or gagged, are all well and good when it comes to really getting into that haze of submission... but a very big part of it is psychological, in my opinion.  You've got to make him feel it with more than just his cock, if you get what I'm saying.  Heh heh.

Remember that it's all about YOU and what YOU want.  So if you don't feel like tying him to the bed because you've had a hard day at work or you're just plain bored of it, tell him to pamper you, then tell him exactly what kind of sex you want.  It may very well be topping from the bottom, as Master Fire said, but it's still topping, and there'll still be that thrill of knowing that he's doing it because you wanted him to.

Good luck!

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 3/11/2008 11:33:06 AM   
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If you want it vanilla.. and he is truly submissive.. than he is submitting to your desire for vanilla sex.. Just be you.. dont worry about all the what ifs.. what if you try to hard and burn yourself out and end up resenting him and that causes the relationship to meltdown and you end up hating each other and in divorce court.. or what if you just let things flow and be happy with what you can be for each other and end up living in wedded bliss forever and ever.. the end.. who knows.. what I do know is you cant be happy with anyone else unless and until you are happy with yourself.. so BE HAPPY...

Congrats and best wishes for the future
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RE: Reluctant Domme - 3/11/2008 3:37:35 PM   
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when you are in a real relationship your not always going ot want to be ultra kinky and their is nothing wrong with wanting to switch sometimes. lset him know how you feel

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RE: Reluctant Domme - 3/11/2008 4:34:10 PM   
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Pardon the frankness of this but
Fuck a duck... who says you have to be the sexual top all the time?

Dominating is not all about sex you know....  being a dominant doesn't mean you have to be in leather or latex with a whip in your hand every time you get near the bed.

Be secure enough in your own dominance - just because you want the man to top sexually doesn't mean you aren't dominant... damn it, just ORDER him to top you...lol

end of rant
have fun!!!!

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