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ballbusting - 2/23/2008 5:18:55 AM   
irishdan


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is it actually safe? i mean they are damageble arent they! so whats your views do you enjoy it? 
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RE: ballbusting - 2/23/2008 5:54:30 AM   
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There are safe ways to do it.  I prefer ballkicking which can be done safely and at the same time, still cause a great deal of pain.



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RE: ballbusting - 2/23/2008 9:43:32 AM   
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Gawd, I missed that one, Venus......hard limit for me.  Look at my balls and I freak....huge, huge pain tolerance and anything else is pretty open.....just not my testacles.....dunno, dunno.....and of course I'm the idiot that ends up with no choice....

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RE: ballbusting - 2/23/2008 10:49:05 AM   
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So, I did some Google research on ballbusting, and it seems to involve pretty much any sort of ball torture: kicking, slapping, hitting, squeezing, crushing, etc.

In addition read Handy Habermann's Family Jewels and recently purchased the sequel, More Family Jewels. Habermann's male and has apparently been doing this for years. I've also attended a Midori demonstration on CBT, seen a few scenes in and around Seattle, have trained with two enthusiastic CBT bottoms and experimented with a third.

Pretty much everyone I've worked with or watched getting tormented seems to be in decent shape afterwards. It seems to be one of those sorts of activities that needs some sort of training first -- a workshop or a co-topping scene, perhaps. Some of the rules I've been taught:
  • cocks: hard impact when they're soft, soft impact when they're hard
  • balls: for impact, they should have some space for swinging away

Otherwise, they're pretty resilient little buggers.

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RE: ballbusting - 2/23/2008 1:27:29 PM   
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took me a little bit to find the right links, this should offer plenty of unquestionable info, and it's fairly entertaining, and best of all, you don't even have to read~

might be worth watching just for curiosities sake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_FT_kc0wyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcp4zrYs-3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmIVSny4e2g

i don't know about safe, there's definitely a safe zone issue... but not what you might expect.  the one that mainly would worry me is someone standing on them, but that's not covered here.  it seems the "damage" is not so much the concern in safety, and despite the paramedic there, it must have been safe enough to test, yeah?  basically these just show why it's going to knock your on your ass with little effort.  why am i still typing, just watch~


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RE: ballbusting - 2/23/2008 2:23:55 PM   
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Hiya dan!

At the top right of the screen is a little icon thingey called "search".  You can find some old and not so old threads there tht might help.  A few I remember are below:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1555576/mpage_1/key_tomato%252Cjuicing/tm.htm#1556775
http://www.collarchat.com/m_762250/mpage_1/key_tomato%252Cjuicing/tm.htm#880621
this one had some safety info in it and a fair few guys talking about testicular torsion, fractured balls and other very serious complications they have as a result.  The guy that seemed to lose one ball altogether was the saddest.  Got to ask your self a question - even if you want it, is it safe and sane?
http://www.collarchat.com/m_207539/mpage_1/key_ballbusting/tm.htm#207623



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RE: ballbusting - 2/24/2008 2:37:17 AM   
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There is enough serious complications to warramt death..it's called a perforated bowel and the infection will travel quickly attacking other organs and then the heart...then you're dead.I suggest you talk to a doctor who specializes in the field...there would be absolutely no kicking..not a hard limit..an absolute limit and only light flogging or cropping of the sac bound.That's all i have from the news desk.

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RE: ballbusting - 2/24/2008 5:20:44 AM   
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quote:

There is enough serious complications to warramt death..it's called a perforated bowel and the infection will travel quickly attacking other organs and then the heart...then you're dead.I suggest you talk to a doctor who specializes in the field...there would be absolutely no kicking..not a hard limit..an absolute limit and only light flogging or cropping of the sac bound.That's all i have from the news desk..


As much as I agree about safety, chezzy, I don't think we are referring to "ballbusting" as actually busting your balls open.
I have been binding, flogging, squeezing, caning, electrocuting, crushing, and kicking balls for many years.  And, usually without a mark to be seen.  And, NEVER an adverse medical issue.  So...I think your taking the interpretation to literally and although your safety issues are great if one actully "busts a nut" so to speak, that isn't really what it is about in scene play.
Again, it can be done safely, with the right acquired skills, no damage, and lots of nice suffering.
Please try not to over react so much by taking everything so literally and scaring people into thinking they will die if they try this with a skilled practitioner.  geeeesh!!!



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RE: ballbusting - 2/24/2008 8:41:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chezzy52

There is enough serious complications to warramt death..it's called a perforated bowel and the infection will travel quickly attacking other organs and then the heart...then you're dead.I suggest you talk to a doctor who specializes in the field...there would be absolutely no kicking..not a hard limit..an absolute limit and only light flogging or cropping of the sac bound.That's all i have from the news desk.

Ballbusting is heavy forms of CBT.

Last I checked, your testicles aren't connected to your bowels, well at least directly.  I would bet that if you kicked a fellow hard enough in the nuts, he might shit his britches.  But I digress.....

Unless you're kicking and miss, landing your spiked heel up his ass and into his bowels, I'd bet that unless the poor boy has a hernia, a perfed bowel isn't on the top 5 list of things likely to happen when you kick him in the jewels. 

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RE: ballbusting - 2/25/2008 9:16:10 AM   
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I'm pleased to say it's a regular happening in our household.....been happening about 8 or nine years now and apart from the odd time when it's caused me to vomit no lasting effect other than the pleasure it gives her to do it

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RE: ballbusting - 2/25/2008 3:13:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chezzy52

There is enough serious complications to warramt death..it's called a perforated bowel and the infection will travel quickly attacking other organs and then the heart...then you're dead.I suggest you talk to a doctor who specializes in the field...there would be absolutely no kicking..not a hard limit..an absolute limit and only light flogging or cropping of the sac bound.That's all i have from the news desk.


So the three doctors I've played with who asked for this specifically are knowingly asking for their death?  While I apreciate your concern for others I think you're going a touch overboard (I also fail to see how you get from testicles to bowels?)


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RE: ballbusting - 2/26/2008 4:12:08 AM   
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Yes ladies but you were speaking of actually kicking them with your stilletos and or boots....to me that is way too dangerous an activity.It is a moot point with me for yourselves because we would never be Dominas/sub...fondling,squeezing,touching,tying,parachuting,light flogging and or cropping i am fine with..anything else is out of the question and i haven't even touched on sounds..but that is medical play...Yikes!!

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RE: ballbusting - 2/26/2008 6:17:47 AM   
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Since this is one of my favorite activities as a submissive, I’ll demonstrate some testicular fortitude and throw my….err.. ‘two bits’ in here

First it's probably worth making the tired observation that a LOT of what we do in the lifestyle is not 'safe' in that there are no risks.  A LOT of what we do involves risk - so it's more about understanding how risky is ball busting.  Clearly a powerful enough impact can turn our family jewels into hamburger (picture Wylie Coyote with an ACME mallet arching his eyebrows) so the question isn't CAN you wreck them - it's what's the breaking point.  That's going to vary between submissives.

I grew up with three younger sisters who thought it was the funniest thing to see their big brother writhe on the ground - mine still work just great - so the upper limit is probably higher than most of us think.  I've been kneed pretty hard and have had no ill effects - actually, in my case I find that most ladies are TOO gentle about it - but until you get to know a sub easy is definitely the way to go. 

Again, like a lot of play it's best to work up slowly and watch the sub for feedback however, there's a very weird and interesting reaction some males have to ball busting - in a surprising number of men the audible and visible feedback to the intense pain is laughter.  I have no idea why but here nature seems to pull an interesting trick and what should be screams of pain come out as full belly laughs. Naturally, to a domme not familiar with the phenomena this could elicit some anger and a dangerous feedback loop (kick harder - more laughter - etc.).  

*SIGH*
Now for some reason I have the 'Ghost Busters' theme running around in my head with a few subtle lyric changes... (who yha gonna call?...)

Jennifer Long
 

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RE: ballbusting - 2/26/2008 11:35:03 AM   
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quote:

(picture Wylie Coyote with an ACME mallet arching his eyebrows)


I'm cracking up here.  Great visual. 

What comes to mind for me is someone trying to share their experience in an area they have never experienced.
GO FIGURE!!  As if this is a new phenomenon around here.

Just because you don't get it, chezzy, doesn't mean it can't be done.  And, done safely.  Oh, and BTW, there is something you will learn about this lifestyle..............never say never.  LOL
I think I'll start a thread on that.



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RE: ballbusting - 2/29/2008 8:32:02 AM   
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taking pain in the balls is one area that I try my best to avoid.  It is as close to a hard limit as anything....Id rather have a Domme piss on my face than to have her spank or kick my balls. 

I dont know why, its just one area of pain I cant tolerate....Fortunately I have not run into a lot of women who LOVE to inflict pain there...

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RE: ballbusting - 2/29/2008 6:10:16 PM   
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I prefer slow, controlled pressure.  Makes him wonder exactly when and if I'm going to let up... it's fun making him sweat a little.

Of course, I also want children from my submissive someday, so I try to avoid doing lasting damage to The Boys, if you know what I mean...


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RE: ballbusting - 3/1/2008 7:20:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chezzy52

Yes ladies but you were speaking of actually kicking them with your stilletos and or boots....to me that is way too dangerous an activity.It is a moot point with me for yourselves because we would never be Dominas/sub...fondling,squeezing,touching,tying,parachuting,light flogging and or cropping i am fine with..anything else is out of the question and i haven't even touched on sounds..but that is medical play...Yikes!!

There is a difference between 'your limit' and ZOMG DANGEROUS!!!!!!  Simply because it's beyond what you would consider to have a part of your life doesn't mean it's terrible for everyone who has interest in it.

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RE: ballbusting - 3/3/2008 8:17:48 AM   
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Chuckles...while the whole not being able to have kids after a kick in the balls is a popular belief, I can tell you from experience that I have been kicked many times by Dommes and was able to produce a perfect little baby with no problems.

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