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Aneirin -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 5:18:22 AM)

I have so much about Linux, but is it non geek friendly, I mean can a normal common or garden pc user install and use it like they would do windows?




wkdshadow -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 5:37:03 AM)

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From the USER'S point of view. Vista is the Poor-Man's-OS-X. There's no *reason* to upgrade unless you're ashamed of the Fisher-Price User Interface on XP.
http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/
http://wincustomize.com/

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I have so much about Linux, but is it non geek friendly, I mean can a normal common or garden pc user install and use it like they would do windows?
Yes and no. Ubuntu will work out of the box on nearly any machine you pop the CD into, and it's rather user friendly. The learning curve is really more of a bump, getting used to the new user interfaces. Most windows programs can now be run in wine, most games will run in cedega(a "fork" of the wine codebase), and for that which doesn't run natively, there's VMWare workstation that'll let you start windows in a "virtual machine", with very little performance loss. VMware kicks ass, and is worth every penny.

http://www.vmware.com/

There's also free, more advanced alternatives to running vmware, such as xen or qemu.

Plus, for anything that you don't like in linux, there's a way to change it.




Justme696 -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 10:27:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: wkdshadow

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From the USER'S point of view. Vista is the Poor-Man's-OS-X. There's no *reason* to upgrade unless you're ashamed of the Fisher-Price User Interface on XP.
http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/
http://wincustomize.com/

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I have so much about Linux, but is it non geek friendly, I mean can a normal common or garden pc user install and use it like they would do windows?
Yes and no. Ubuntu will work out of the box on nearly any machine you pop the CD into, and it's rather user friendly. The learning curve is really more of a bump, getting used to the new user interfaces. Most windows programs can now be run in wine, most games will run in cedega(a "fork" of the wine codebase), and for that which doesn't run natively, there's VMWare workstation that'll let you start windows in a "virtual machine", with very little performance loss. VMware kicks ass, and is worth every penny.

http://www.vmware.com/

There's also free, more advanced alternatives to running vmware, such as xen or qemu.

Plus, for anything that you don't like in linux, there's a way to change it.



an other possibility is to use a Linux Live cd (an OS that doesn't need to be installed)




Justme696 -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 10:28:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: wkdshadow

Man I'm not even going to get started in this thread, because I'll never stop typing. Well, maybe a simple answer.

There is no reason to switch to Vista.



well their is hardly ever a reason to switch




Justme696 -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 10:32:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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What are the advantages of Vista over XP?


Also, what are the disadvantages of Vista?


Depends on the context.

From Microsoft's Point of View, if they don't provide the appearance of progress in keeping their O/S and Application offerings current, they're toast.

From the USER'S point of view. Vista is the Poor-Man's-OS-X. There's no *reason* to upgrade unless you're ashamed of the Fisher-Price User Interface on XP.

From the Corporate IT Point of View. Vista is nothing but a fucking headache.

I think a *lot* of people finally understand. *ALL* Microsoft brings to the table is Marketing, Smoke and Mirrors.




you forgot to say that Miscosoft has a lot of software support..lots of hardware support.....but refuse to liste to users.
Please don't let this end in fanboy talk..like we see on Microsoft vs MAc vs Linux boards




Jeffff -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 10:37:57 AM)

I am not a compuer geek, I am just a user. It came with my new 'puter. It is different enough form XP for there to be a learning curve. I don't hate it, but it might be slower. but I can't say that for sure.

Jeff

if anyone has any hints........feel free to email me........please...lol




Qadir -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 11:05:23 AM)

Anyone know what XP stands for, out of curiosity?




wkdshadow -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 11:12:42 AM)

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an other possibility is to use a Linux Live cd (an OS that doesn't need to be installed)
Great point. While knoppix is the most popular, I'm partial to slax thanks to it's LZM modules to save changes for persistance across reboots. I carry an install  of backtrack(slax based, offensive security focused distribution) on my USB key with me at all times. syslinux makes it possible to boot off a fat32 partition(that'd be the USB key), which means no need to mess with sectioning off and partitioning the drive.

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Anyone know what XP stands for, out of curiosity?
Windows "ExPeriance"




Justme696 -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 11:15:09 AM)

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Great point. While knoppix is the most popular, I'm partial to slax thanks to it's LZM modules to save changes for persistance across reboots. I carry an install of backtrack(slax based, offensive security focused distribution) on my USB key with me at all times. syslinux makes it possible to boot off a fat32 partition(that'd be the USB key), which means no need to mess with sectioning off and partitioning the drive.


I use that to bypass our admin at work    lol


btw for Linux people..XP is available...(think Vista also)  as live cd/dvd




Qadir -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 11:18:11 AM)

Ah I see. Them marketing types are so clever, aren't they not.




Indemnis -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 11:18:58 AM)

I just skimmed this, so if I am repeating anyone's post, I apologise.

Now, I have Vista on my new Dell.  It is useful in that is does tend to do alot *for* you... and it has alot of nifty options.  It is also aesthetically pleasing.  The major drawback is that it does so much FOR you!  It would be a great operating system for someone who had no idea what they were doing, but for a fairly experianced computer-er, it is little more than irritating. 
It can't seem to do a darn thing without your permission... I have been asked "Are you sure you want to do this?" about 200 times a day now. 




Sinergy -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 11:31:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

you forgot to say that Miscosoft has a lot of software support..lots of hardware support.....but refuse to liste to users.
Please don't let this end in fanboy talk..like we see on Microsoft vs MAc vs Linux boards



I have found almost any Windoze product has an open source clone.  Can download for free, but I usually buy the CD for 40 dollars or whatever so the developer can eat and code new things.

For those stuck with something that is not open source, I once put SUSE Linux on a Sun box, put on a virtual windoze emulator, and ran Carmageddon until my fingers bled.

Sinergy




DesFIP -> RE: Why Vista? (2/24/2008 2:06:06 PM)

Vista seems to change everything for no reason except to make the learning curve harder. My local tech doesn't recommend it. Simply because most offices don't want to stop work for two weeks while they get accustomed to it.  On the upscale, they're building people a lot more computers with XP so they just come and install the new one, and people can get right back to work.




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