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HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:30:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub

It seems to me that most problems stem from 3 rules already mentioned that crop up frequently..Communication (seems to be a good credo, however many seem to have the most difficulty with that!)..Honesty (seems to be hard due to the fact that many times in our days we tend to be less than honest to have our life go more smoothly ie:Yes boss, I am working on that as we speak, or...no problem, it's ok I did not like that vase anyway, when your best friends son knocks it over..things like this..)and face it..then you have those with hidden agendas, Dom and submissive alike..and as LA said being true to yourself,some seem to think if they behave or act in certain ways, that it will attain them that which is being sought, and hence not being true to who they are, and then the incompatabilities set in when the facade cannot be kept up..(refer to honesty again)..So I guess I can simply add, Respect for each other and their contribution to the dynamic...Tempting

Being true to yourself, in my book, falls under the catagory of honesty. It is no less imperative to be honest to owns own self that to others. Being HONEST, starts with honesty to yourself. If you can not be honest to yourself, there is NO WAY to be honest to those around you.

I was going to let that slide... but being as it is SO VERY VERY important, I deemed it fruitfull to clarify.




HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:32:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

No rules....just a few concepts...."truths" if you will.
  • Consequence is inevitable
  • Choice precedes action
  • Control is an illusion



Perhaps this would be suited as a "Titles" page. A pre-intro to the "book."




kc692 -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:33:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HerLord

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

I don't like rules. I like compliance. Rules and structure limit my "creativity" making me a slave to a slave.

EXACTLY the input I was searching for. TY.  I was hoping to make a real book of "rules" So as to indicate the sillyness of rules, while still giving insight to some of the understood (by most) guidelines.


[sm=confused.gif]That's some fancy doubletalk, lol....You a politician by any chance????[:D]




HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:35:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HerLord

Ok.
This is going to be messy. But let me try.
I know that ther are absolutely NO absolutes. But, what if you were to really try to write a book of rules for the life. What in your mind would be most important, least important, and the notso important "must haves?"
I see lots of posts in here on various topics that generally come down to what are the rules of; being a sub/slave, dominating, etc.
Let's say that between us on CM, we have been charged with writing a rule book. BTW Noah... I think it should be 2 nudies for every toy, and 1 "money" as profile, lol
Any way, so as to give a thread dedicated to the one twue rule book, I took it upon myself to begin a thread on this topic. I did a VERY quick search on this and found everything to be disorganized. So I stopped looking.
I would love to see real answers, sarcasm welcome, but I would like to see what everyones individual idea is on their own version of rules, and maybe as a "community" come to some sort of consensus as to what they could be, if generalized enough to "fit the mold." I expect the rules are different for each person, so I will be taking the time to look at each one and see what of each one could be gleaned and reformatted to within/out context be applicable to the whole. I would love to see, as a continually evolutionary input, a listing continually edited on OP a list of What It Is That We Do handbook... lol I know I have not perfectly expressed my self here, so any ?'s feel free.
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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

No rules....just a few concepts...."truths" if you will.

  • Consequence is inevitable
  • Choice precedes action
  • Control is an illusion


Rule 1. Honesty
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ORIGINAL: LadyRainfire
1. Honesty in all things for me. If you don't like that, I'm sorry but it's your problem. (I've been burned extremely bad - anyone want the gory details, feel free to ask privately, I don't mind sharing. Just not on an open forum.)

Rule 2. Communication
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4. Communication. If we don't talk, it ain't happening. And if we don't talk honestly, it REALLY ain't happening. 

Rule 3. ALL new subs MUST submit their profile to me, and make their presence before me to... approve the validity of all and any statements made in thier profile.
Rule 4.
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
Stay true to yourself.

Rule 5.
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ORIGINAL: velvetears
i would have one rule.  There are no rules

Rule 6.
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2. Limits. Yep, I have them. If you don't like 'em, again, your problem, not mine. I'll respect yours (even if you don't claim any), you respect mine. Some are self-imposed and hard, some are open to education and negotiation.

Rule 7.
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3. Tolerance. You may not like me and I may not like you and thats ok. But don't slam me because I'm not slamming you, I'm politely ignoring you. Thankfully I haven't had that happen here yet.

Rule 8.
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ORIGINAL: PanthersMom

give til it hurts.  then give a little more.

PM


Rule 9.
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I have only one rule - to obey my Master.  It keeps things simple.





Edited ti hide my stupidity... LOL




LadyRainfire -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:35:23 PM)

[:D] So we're talking "guidelines" here and not "rules". I still think it all goes back to LA's original premise of being true to oneself. What works for me may not work for you. Does that make me a slave to my "rules"? I don't think so. Is it a coping mechanism? Maybe. But it's also being who I am. And ultimately, at the end of the day, I have to live with myself and if I go against who I am, then I end up miserable and unhappy. As the saying goes... Been there, done that, ain't doing it again!
 




HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:36:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kc692

[sm=confused.gif]That's some fancy doubletalk, lol....You a politician by any chance????[:D]



Nope... just a retarded genius.




HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:39:16 PM)

I was unaware of any editing limits so plz forgive the updating throughout the thread. I will try to keep any editing on the last page so as not to make every one read every page to see The Finished Book of Rules.




celticlord2112 -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:39:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Noah

One of the most important chapters in the book would explain the ultimate futility of attempting to live a rule-based life, in or out of "the life," (a term which paints over far more than it illustrates, for me.)

The futility of rules for an application like this is self evident if you just look carefully.

To follow a rule (rather than your own judgement, that is) you must know when this rule applies and when it doesn't. This isn't an incidental fact. This is an aspect of how rules operate.

To decide when to invoke rule A you must either use your judgement (abandon the rule book) or call on Rule B, which governs the application of rule A.

Lather, rinse, repeat.


Your logic is flawed. Your argument carries the implicit presumption that rules are discrete and not abstract, and further that rules represent a negation of judgement.

I do not see where either predicate may be safely presumed as a given.




velvetears -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:39:46 PM)

You can't add mine to your list as it would trump all other rules lol




celticlord2112 -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:40:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HerLord

quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

No rules....just a few concepts...."truths" if you will.
  • Consequence is inevitable
  • Choice precedes action
  • Control is an illusion



Perhaps this would be suited as a "Titles" page. A pre-intro to the "book."


Perhaps.

Or perhaps it is the book.




HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:41:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: velvetears

You can't add mine to your list as it would trump all other rules lol
Hence the absoluteness of it's neccesity




HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:43:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Perhaps.

Or perhaps it is the book.

There in lies the purpose of this thread.




Leatherist -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:44:27 PM)

Rule one.

Follow the leader.

There is no other rule.




G9o5d4 -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:47:06 PM)

Kiss principle falls into play here, #1;The Dom/Domme is always right! #2; If the Dom/Domme is suspected of being wrong, refer to rule #1!

Kiss principle, keep inviting subs and slaves......lol




celticlord2112 -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:52:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HerLord

quote:

ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Perhaps.

Or perhaps it is the book.

There in lies the purpose of this thread.


Clever.....maybe




HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:52:54 PM)

Funny, however... not really what I was looking for to put in "THE Book of Rules"




MarkWatchesYou -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:53:00 PM)

A leader arises or is selected a hard tight fit is what I see shes leading her wish is my command.   Under her spell Ive crossed my will to hers.   She blows me away and lights me firE - makes me feel exactly opposite by pushing me around and telling me what I hate is just what I am now.  





HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 10:54:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MarkWatchesYou

A leader arises or is selected a hard tight fit is what I see shes leading her wish is my command.   Under her spell Ive crossed my will to hers.   She blows me away and lights me firE - makes me feel exactly opposite by pushing me around and telling me what I hate is just what I am now.  



Not sure I catch the connection. Plz clarify.




SailingBum -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 11:00:24 PM)

is this gonna be like sailboat racing ???  small pocket size book with rules and explanation.  so when a rule is disputed.  The 2 parties along with witnesses go to the protest room and hash it out.  The boat that is deemed the injured party get tossed out of that race in the most severe case.  My point is what are you gonna do if a rule is broke ???   does some stranger get to whip her or bang the shit outta her....  some of you are taking this way to fucking serious.  general rules for everyone my ass.  Nucking Futs I tell ya.

BadOne





HerLord -> RE: The Rules (2/23/2008 11:07:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

is this gonna be like sailboat racing ???  small pocket size book with rules and explanation.  so when a rule is disputed.  The 2 parties along with witnesses go to the protest room and hash it out.  The boat that is deemed the injured party get tossed out of that race in the most severe case.  My point is what are you gonna do if a rule is broke ???   does some stranger get to whip her or bang the shit outta her....  some of you are taking this way to fucking serious.  general rules for everyone my ass.  Nucking Futs I tell ya.

BadOne



I believe you missed one of the crucial points made here.
quote:

ORIGINAL: HerLord

quote:

ORIGINAL: Leatherist

I don't like rules. I like compliance. Rules and structure limit my "creativity" making me a slave to a slave.

EXACTLY the input I was searching for. TY.  I was hoping to make a real book of "rules" So as to indicate the sillyness of rules, while still giving insight to some of the understood (by most) guidelines.

Perhaps this could be explained in "THE Book of Rules" the consequences for breaking/ignoring or in any other way modifying the rules.




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