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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 9:08:19 AM

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That would have made it cleaner, but would not sterilize it. And sterilizing the tip of an enema is NOT necessary. I was just being a bit snarky, because it's clear that she doesn't know what she's doing, but is making stuff up as she goes.

It is not safe, by any stretch of the imagination, to use the water pressure in household pipes to fill a colon, and there is no way any doctor would have told her it was safe to do this, especially while she's pregnant. It sounds like the set-up for a Darwin Award.

You know whats sad, is you know nothing bout me, and my pregnancy.. NOR do you know that enema's are administered at birth, used to be mandatory, but now its only mandatory in certain hospitals. My Doctor, knew exactly what i was doing... and maybe i don't know it all, but i did my research on doing this, and just didnt expect those type of cramps. ONLY a few of you actually answered the question i asked..if you're only going to critize then please, don't respond to the post. thats just rude. And if you do want to add your .02 then email it to Daddy and i.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 9:20:05 AM

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You might find more helpful tips here The Enema Within

ty very much for your info... this is the type of information and answers i was looking for... not insults, or being critized...

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 9:29:34 AM

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Hello -

Just wanted to say that enemas shouldnt be used during pregnancy unless it is due to an illness etc and has to be done - even then, you shouldnt use them regularly. It can be done, and there are very few risks associated or documented, but it wouldnt be advisable. If you absolutely have have one, then only a plain one.
But most importantly it should be a proper enema - not a home made one(like the shower hose). Enemas can induce labour - Simply from the cramping alone. If you are pregnant now, inserting a shower hose, whether sterile or not will be a risk for the pregnancy - waiting a few months will not hurt and you can use the time to research enemas thoroughly. If you are going to have an enema, try and make sure you do so with someone else present if your are pregnant - just from a safety point of view for you. Never insert anything into yourself that may cause infection - that will be really uncomfortable for you and there are alot of drugs you cant take when pregnant. In later pregnancy, sexual intercourse can induce labour also. Also, be careful what oils or creams you use during pregnancy - lavender, patchouli - aloe - all bad. If you want to chat more, then just mail me -

*edit to add - the water temp may have made you cramp - and the pressure, like Lily said - you can order kits online if you cant get at your local drugstore - I will try and find the link...

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 11:42:10 AM

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daddynslave,

This is Nella's Master writing. I have a fair bit of medical experience, as well as having extensively interviewed open-minded doctors about this, and would like to offer you the following advice:

If you insist on persisting in this criminally negligent behaviour, then at the very least ensure the following:
- That the water is consistently as near to 37 degrees Celsius as possible, and steady.
- If possible, use a douche bag rather than the shower.
- If you must use the shower, make sure that the pressure is low and steady. You may test this by placing a wet paper towel over the nozzle. Your intestinal walls can take slightly less than a wet paper towel, and pressure can build surprisingly quickly if there is an obstruction.
- Under no circumstance insert the nozzle deeply (stay well clear of 20cm).
- If you get cramps, stop the water immediately.
- If cramps persist or start to resemble labour, seek immediate medical attention.

There's a big difference between doing this occasionally and doing it on a regular basis, and a bigger difference between doing it with a professional douche bag at the right temperature and using the shower.

Your baby is not a consensual party to this sexual play, please bear that in mind and respect that.

Sincerely.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 12:43:42 PM

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OK - Whilst I understand the concern here - and I am in no way saying that I would recommend any pregnant woman having an enema without medical supervision - using the word criminal in BIG BOLD LETTERS is just a scare tactic that is extremely irresponsible in itself.
What on earth are you trying to do - stress the poor girl? Thats a really responsible way to warn someone, let alone a pregnant woman who could do without added stress. There is NO medical evidence to suggest that enemas would hurt pregnancy however there is of course other things that can happen during an enema to induce contractions. But depending on where a person lives and why she did it and if she was aware the consequences depends on what is criminal or not. Bolding big letters and claiming some medical knowledge to scare a person into doing something you dont think is right is silly. She came here for information, not to be judged - she is doing the correct thing by coming here and asking and we can tell her to the best of our ability - but without scaring the living daylights out of people and without scaring people off so they dont ask questions again.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 1:26:05 PM

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Local laws in your erea may wary but at least where i live it is considerd criminaly negligent to do so. An enema is one thing, to use the shower nose is another, is your erea have any laws to protect an unborn child and as far as i and my Master know there is, this is Criminal, it is not a scare tactic, it is criminal period.

Is she doing the right thing when coming here asking questions yes, is she doing the right thing when ignoring everyone saying that this is dangerous no. One wal talk of everything one give up when one choose to become a slave, well you give up a few things when you choose to become pragnid to, this baby is way over the time for legal abotion, and she is endangering the child, simple as that.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 1:50:57 PM

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There is nothing wrong with a pregnant woman having an enema as long as its not in excess. I know alot of doctors who would okay it just like hers did Yes, certain solutions and amounts should be avoided so it doesn't involve complication, but an occasional 2 quart enema done safely isn't going to harm anything. Cramping most likely had a lot to do with temperature and pressure. Both which when receiving an enema the first time could have happened no matter how it was done.

Yes, using the shower method can be unsafe when done improperly. Having an enema from a shower hose while pregnant if done correctly isn't dangerous. None of us where there to know if she did or not. I refuse to call someone guilty unless I know all the facts. I've been giving enemas for over a decade (and since I don't do anything to someone else that I can't handle I've received everything I've dished out to anyone.) I've done the whole shower trick myself, and I've gotten various opinions from doctors about it. Its not dangerous when done correctly, and I believe she did. It may not be a fail safe way, but nothing in our life is fail safe.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 2:03:18 PM

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nella - I love your posts and respect you - but to scare someone like what is being done is just plain wrong and to accuse her of endangerment can be considered slander and placing yourself in a difficult postion.

Whilst I agree that using the shower etc wasnt the best thing - thats why people are offering her advice. Whether pregnant or not, the shower wasnt a great idea full stop. But to claim that emenas will abort a baby is bad and wrong advice.

As for the age of the child and abortion issues - again, depends on the country - but thats not what the thread is about and trying to shift the emphasises isnt going to help the issue. So many threads go off on a tangent when people try to pick apart anothers words - this is an important issue so can we at least try and keep to the OP?Please?

Shower head and taps - bad idea.
Enema available for purchase and used correctly and how to use - good idea.
Enema during pregnancy - no firm studies - not advisable from personal points of view.
These are the issues - not whether someone is neglegent or about abortion.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 2:08:22 PM

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Well what i am saying is true, it can cause complication whit the prganacy and even get laybor started to early. If she get scared by what she is writing, she needs to get scared. i am not telling lies to scare here, i am telling the truth, i dont realy give a rats ass whatever or not somone i dont know endager themself, i think pepole should be aloved to do whit their body as they want, but now another person is involved, and what she is doing CAN werry negativly afect that other person.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 2:14:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: nella

Well what i am saying is true, it can cause complication whit the prganacy and even get laybor started to early. If she get scared by what she is writing, she needs to get scared. i am not telling lies to scare here, i am telling the truth, i dont realy give a rats ass whatever or not somone i dont know endager themself, i think pepole should be aloved to do whit their body as they want, but now another person is involved, and what she is doing CAN werry negativly afect that other person.

Yes nella - it is showing that you do not give a rats ass. Well, I do - thats why I prefere to give a detailed and informed post, not a scaremonger one. I am not here to argue with you - I answered a question. I prefere not to get into a flame and tit-for-tat argument - but I do enjoy discussion. Keep safe and read much.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 2:18:00 PM

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Werry well, i just dont see the need to cuddle the women, she is choosing this, it is the child i am concern aboute.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 2:54:36 PM

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This isnt about pregnancy - it is about enemas.

If it was about pregnancy - and you are concerned for unborns - then consider this - never use Aloe vera, lavender, ginger, basil, feverfew, juniper, rue, tansy, camomile, chillis, fenel, liquorice, peppermint, garlic and a host of others - these are more risky to an unborn child because they are proven and researched FACT.

As the thread is about enemas then -

quote:

''Both pregnant women and nursing women have safely done enemas. Many of them. No known risks are associated with clean water enema''

CureZone - who is sponsered by the gifam.

Clean water enemas are occasionally used by doctors before birth and during pregnancy. In fact, up to a few years ago, hospitals often gave enemas to women in pregnancy to help with constipation With the advent of more 'natural ' methods nowadays - this isnt as popular. Whilst not advisable to do without medical assistance during pregnancy - there is no proof it can cause abortion.

My thought is - still, I wouldnt do it personally.
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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:09:35 PM

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Again, an enema is one thing, a real one from the drugstore, a wather nossle is another thing all together. As for this being aboute enemas, sure it is, and we are still discussing that. As for the herbs, sure that is right you should not use them when pragnid, i did not know aboute garlic though, hum...interesting, more for my information base, need to read up on that one day. Thank you for the information.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:10:30 PM

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Ahem... hem... I don't want to disturb such a nice fight, but I think post #19 clearly states that the enemas wouldn't happen before the baby is born.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:13:33 PM

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Ahem... hem... I don't want to disturb such a nice fight, but I think post #19 clearly states that the enemas wouldn't happen before the baby is born.

I may have lost track since I'm not following this stream closely but I do recall that the initial post indicated that the enema had already taken place.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:18:15 PM

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Ach - I have a whole list I could give anyone interested in what not to eat or use or drink or inhale...lol...

Garlic is a stimulent duing pregnancy. It can also be problematic during breastfeeding also, causing colic and if the child doesnt like it - bad feeding problems.

Cammomile is something people associate with pregnancy - but should be avoided until after birth.

But again - I am digressing from the OP...lol... sorrrrrrrry....

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:22:06 PM

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Ah yes but now you have gotten me over on herbs, and i love herbs. camomille tea is claming, what do it do that is damaging to a preagancy? the thing aboute garlic is interesting, my mother have always liked garlic, me to for that matter but i had colics when a baby, kept my mama up all night i did.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:24:57 PM

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Places to purchase online -

http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/group.asp

http://www.detoxyourworld.com/acatalog/enema.html

http://www.healthandyoga.com/html/product/enemaequipment.html

Personally, I would go to your local chemist/pharmacy/health store and have a chat... they can offer good advice

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:25:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: Daddynslave
NOR do you know that enema's are administered at birth, used to be mandatory, but now its only mandatory in certain hospitals.

Actually, I did know that-- but if you can find a hospital that uses a shower hose and the sort of water pressure that household pipes provide, and calls THAT an enema, then I'll be surprised.

Of course I don't know you-- I only know what you've posted here. For all I know, you made it up, and just told a story about someone doing a foolish thing. In that case, you're not foolish, just creative (and only your character is foolish).

But whether it's you or a character you made up, you presented a situation in which someone clearly didn't know what they were doing, thought "sterilizing" meant something different than it does, thought that because these hook-up are sold in BDSM catalogues that they're safe, dismissed the risk of ruptured colon and morbid electrolyte imbalance (even though she's pregnant), and for all her research, had somehow missed the part about enemas and cramps. So with that limited knowledge of you, I felt a small snark was in order.

http://www.darwinawards.com/legends/legends1998-06.html

It's not like I could email you-- aren't you forbidden to receive private messages?

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:26:50 PM

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(nella - I will put a list on another thread on this k? - I dont want to hijack the op)

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