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Ageplay - 9/19/2005 3:05:08 PM

subversiveone

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For those readers interested and active in ageplay, do you ever mix in genderplay and if so, how? Do you transform from little girl to little boy/boi? Or does Mommy become Daddy? How does that make you feel and add to your play?
I'm also curious to know how far down the "rabbit hole" you go in everyday life with your ageplay. I find it highly addictive and am doing it every time i get the chance. I'm even contemplating dedicating a bedroom in the new house to a space in which i can 'play' and feel very young. While clothing is nice, decor and 'toys' are where it's at for me! ;)
For those of you who are also M/s, does this become a burden on the top after a few years? I mean, have You ever just wanted to say 'grow up!' and go back to roles where the child persona now has to behave as an adult and take on more 'responsibility'??
And as the 'child' or 'teen' do you feel guilty for reverting to a simpler time, when you in all actuality still have the responsibilities of an adult? How do you negotiate them for both partners?

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RE: Ageplay - 9/19/2005 4:40:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subversiveone

For those readers interested and active in ageplay, do you ever mix in genderplay and if so, how? Do you transform from little girl to little boy/boi? Or does Mommy become Daddy? How does that make you feel and add to your play?
I'm also curious to know how far down the "rabbit hole" you go in everyday life with your ageplay. I find it highly addictive and am doing it every time i get the chance. I'm even contemplating dedicating a bedroom in the new house to a space in which i can 'play' and feel very young. While clothing is nice, decor and 'toys' are where it's at for me! ;)
For those of you who are also M/s, does this become a burden on the top after a few years? I mean, have You ever just wanted to say 'grow up!' and go back to roles where the child persona now has to behave as an adult and take on more 'responsibility'??
And as the 'child' or 'teen' do you feel guilty for reverting to a simpler time, when you in all actuality still have the responsibilities of an adult? How do you negotiate them for both partners?

Age play is something I really like, but have rarely had the opportunity to get deeply into. I've never had a partner who really wanted to engage in that sort of dynamic with me and unless I have someone to bounce off, generally I just feel like a woman in a cute dress looking young. When I HAVE had someone to bounce off, it doesn't matter what I'm wearing or where I am, I simply BECOME myself at a younger age (which some people don't get because I was NEVER an ordinary child).

If the dominant was also into it and compatible to it, I can't imagine why it would be a burden to them. If they weren't into it or didn't feel fulfilled by it, then that could become a serious problems. But people spend tons of money decorating dungeons and buying toys, I think having a kids playroom would be fabulous.

Very few relationships I've ever known incorporate age play 24/7 as part of their lives. Most do it only for scenes, or only when in the house together. In those circumstances, when someone needs to get directions, when someone needs to pay the bills, both/all people are expected to contribute as responsible adults. It takes adjusting but that is simply how life is. There can be guilt on both sides, there can be awkwardness, but just like there's awkwardness the first time you go into and out of sub space and sub drop, you learn your reactions and you learn how to compensate for them.

The only time I really mixed it up was at BR04 when I was being a little girl, with my Boston partner as his animal on a leash which I had and my future boyfriend who was totally virgin and being submissive to me in tow. I'm not quite sure how my little girl self managed to keep it together, but apparently a playful kitty and a virgin sub male was an ok combination for that night because I had a blast.

One thing to say to people who see age play- please don't try and make a little deal with an adult situation if you aren't their dominant or partner. Asking them questions, making them deal with scenarios, or somehow pulling them out of their place would be as bad as unlocking a cage for a sub and dragging her out of it.

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RE: Ageplay - 9/19/2005 6:01:58 PM

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Has anyone ever played the reverse of the traditional younger=bottom/sub and older=top/dom ageplay scenario?

I ask cause I have.

I've very rarely had a parnter who could deal with the spoiled princess child in me whose daddy better give her everything she wants and NOW or he's been a bad daddy.....

Had a partner once write me a story with this sort of set-up.

Anyway, just thought I'd toss it out cause it seems very rare to have the younger role-played age be the dominant partner.

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RE: Ageplay - 9/19/2005 6:51:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sunshine119

Any parent could tell you lots of stories where their kids became the dominant one!!! LOL Not a far stretch for the imagination, especially as you describe it.

That's probably the appeal for me given my own childhood was nothing close to being the dominant one in any sense....

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RE: Ageplay - 9/19/2005 7:38:36 PM

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Age play and genderbending are something I seldom do, and untill recently though I just wasn't into.

Lately, though, I've realized that I have an alternate identity that really really likes to come out to play (alternate not in the sense of MPD but a part of myself I conciously choose to express) That person is a adolecent/teen boy.

He is a total brat who is very much attracted to "Daddy" figures, which is something I personally have no affinity for. It's a fun character to play, because when I'm him my partner has given me permision to brat, which I don't really do, normally. It's one of the few times I "act up" to encourage play.

It's weird, but was very liberating to discover this person I enjoy being.

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RE: Ageplay - 9/19/2005 8:15:53 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

Age play is something I really like, but have rarely had the opportunity to get deeply into. I've never had a partner who really wanted to engage in that sort of dynamic with me and unless I have someone to bounce off, generally I just feel like a woman in a cute dress looking young. When I HAVE had someone to bounce off, it doesn't matter what I'm wearing or where I am, I simply BECOME myself at a younger age (which some people don't get because I was NEVER an ordinary child).

If the dominant was also into it and compatible to it, I can't imagine why it would be a burden to them. If they weren't into it or didn't feel fulfilled by it, then that could become a serious problems. But people spend tons of money decorating dungeons and buying toys, I think having a kids playroom would be fabulous.

Very few relationships I've ever known incorporate age play 24/7 as part of their lives. Most do it only for scenes, or only when in the house together. In those circumstances, when someone needs to get directions, when someone needs to pay the bills, both/all people are expected to contribute as responsible adults. It takes adjusting but that is simply how life is. There can be guilt on both sides, there can be awkwardness, but just like there's awkwardness the first time you go into and out of sub space and sub drop, you learn your reactions and you learn how to compensate for them.

i really liked what you had to say there!

...to subversiveone ~ i haven't ever done genderplay with my Age Play stuff but i wouldn't be against in (in certain ways).. i have no desire to be anything accept a woman/girl... but i wouldn't have a problem with a partner who liked genderplay for themselves... like a female partner who preferred to be a "daddy" or a male partner who preferred to be a "mommy" would be alright with me. ^_^

like Emerald said.. i don't see how things could be a burden if one's partner was "into" Age Play too... most "little boys" and "little girls" i know who are involved in long-term Age Play (and often D/s mixed) relationships are able to be "grown ups" when they are required to be.

i have never met any long term couple were the "little girl/boy" stayed in that regressed role 24 hours a day and was unable to ever function as an adult. ~ (though just because i never met such a couple doesn't mean such a couple doesn't exist!)

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RE: Ageplay - 9/20/2005 12:14:23 AM

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This is a very good post, I love age play. However, it has always been hard for me to find play partners who were interested in it. Gender play does sound interesting but for myself I would not be interested in it. I am happy just being a woman or a little girl when I can be, which is not too often. I am always expected to act my age.

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RE: Ageplay - 9/20/2005 7:31:18 AM

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For me there is no native connection between genderplay and ageplay - and further, for me there is a seperate Daddy/little dynamic.

By this I mean that sometimes we engage in ageplay. She dresses up in little white cotton panties, socks, a little sassy t shirt and uses specific dialogue: "Daddy, can I get in bed with you?" - "Comon Daddy - catch me!" etc. That's our kind of ageplay - her using costume and speciifc verbage, and I making specific, symbolic demands and articulating our roles in a sort of running dialogue while I use her. It's costumey, a little over the top, demonstrative and done at discrete times ("little girl night").

A whole seperate groove is the Daddy/little dynamic we have. That's subtle, not directly referred to, comprehensive rather than discrete to a certain time and place. In a certain sense, she is a little girl, and I am her Daddy. We relate (at all times) to a degree as a responsible, loving parent to a little girl who needs love, nurturing, discipline and attention.

In both cases the genderlines are absolute - I could never be a Mommy (how could I? My very essense is as a Father), and she could never be a little boy.

No doubt you CAN mix age and genderplay - but then again I am sure you could mix ageplay and foodplay - or humiliation play - or whatever. For us there is no intrinsic link, and gender bending would pretty much wreck the ageplay or Daddy/little dynamic.

Good thread though, and I enjoyed reading the responses.

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RE: Ageplay - 9/20/2005 7:38:01 PM

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no sicker than being a 55 yr old female switch in Long Island....
keep your stones and your flames to yourself ;)

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RE: Ageplay - 9/20/2005 7:42:16 PM

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Hi pp1948. I think you are missing it. It's not like playing young, has anything to do with REAL CHILDREN ! I love to see females dressed as school girls, but not real little girls. Tey don't do a thing for me, but when an Adult Female does it, I get goosebumps all over me.

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RE: Ageplay - 9/21/2005 10:08:33 AM

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I love being a little baby girl to a daddy/mommy or both.

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RE: Ageplay - 9/21/2005 12:35:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Faramir

For me there is no native connection between genderplay and ageplay - and further, for me there is a seperate Daddy/little dynamic.

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No doubt you CAN mix age and genderplay - but then again I am sure you could mix ageplay and foodplay - or humiliation play - or whatever.

oh.. agreed

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RE: Ageplay - 9/21/2005 4:23:18 PM

MissDiandSirHugh

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Haveing some one who is mature become a child and live and act as one in every way can be pleasurable in so many ways as not only controling their behaviour and actions also in their manners and their outlook on life in a different way since they have already lived it so now have to look at it so differently and innocently.
Taken from baby hood through child hood and puberty to adult by the end of it they as well as us in some ways seem to look at ideas differently we may all not still be right with those points but just different than before we started the roll play.
If as we have enjoyed with someone older than us then in many ways it is more intense and can take much longer to roll back time but as as that saying goes "Like Sands Through The Hour-Glass These are The Days Of Our Lives"
Although we have never thought of reversing our genders in any of it we thank you for the idea subversiveeone will give that a try at some time be not only interseting for us but also for the submissive friends we enjoy the roll playing with.

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RE: Ageplay - 9/21/2005 6:33:57 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissDiandSirHugh

Haveing some one who is mature become a child and live and act as one in every way can be pleasurable in so many ways as not only controling their behaviour and actions also in their manners and their outlook on life in a different way since they have already lived it so now have to look at it so differently and innocently.
Taken from baby hood through child hood and puberty to adult by the end of it they as well as us in some ways seem to look at ideas differently we may all not still be right with those points but just different than before we started the roll play.
If as we have enjoyed with someone older than us then in many ways it is more intense and can take much longer to roll back time but as as that saying goes "Like Sands Through The Hour-Glass These are The Days Of Our Lives"
Although we have never thought of reversing our genders in any of it we thank you for the idea subversiveeone will give that a try at some time be not only interseting for us but also for the submissive friends we enjoy the roll playing with.

Greetings! I agree that maturing in roleplay is intriguing. I haven't quite figured out what age it is that i fit yet. I just spontaneously use that voice, that mannerism/s and it could be several ages. Costumes and props are the only ques as to what age category but stuffed animals, white cotton panties, that can go from 3 to 13. Hell, 31!!! So im open to rolling back the hands of time to toddler but id hate to give up the spontaneity in having to mature during play over time. Since this has become part of my relationship, as many say, He is really my Daddy in my heart. I'm not used to someone seriously enjoying taking care of me. I trust that He won't give more than He wants to, but at the same time, if we behave more and more father and child, he may feel He has to. I would compare it to a Master who over time wants to occaisionaly go back to being an average Joe. Not to shrug responsibility, not to dishonor their slave, just to change things and take a breather. Being a Daddy may take it's toll. I don't know. Makes me want to pull a Scarlett and worry about it tomorrow. ;)
As far as the gender play, im not shy about being the 'boi'. He's not into being Mommy. I'd love to try my hand at being Mommy, but that would be like asking Him to switch. Not that it's rigid, just structured, our play.
Now if i could just have a slumber party :9

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RE: Ageplay - 11/1/2005 9:29:04 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subversiveone

For those readers interested and active in ageplay, do you ever mix in genderplay and if so, how? Do you transform from little girl to little boy/boi? Or does Mommy become Daddy? How does that make you feel and add to your play?
I'm also curious to know how far down the "rabbit hole" you go in everyday life with your ageplay. I find it highly addictive and am doing it every time i get the chance. I'm even contemplating dedicating a bedroom in the new house to a space in which i can 'play' and feel very young. While clothing is nice, decor and 'toys' are where it's at for me! ;)
For those of you who are also M/s, does this become a burden on the top after a few years? I mean, have You ever just wanted to say 'grow up!' and go back to roles where the child persona now has to behave as an adult and take on more 'responsibility'??
And as the 'child' or 'teen' do you feel guilty for reverting to a simpler time, when you in all actuality still have the responsibilities of an adult? How do you negotiate them for both partners?

I had a 24/7 ageplay relationship for a couple of years. By "24/7", I mean that I was always his girl, he was always my daddy, even when we were both regular people. It wasn't just in the bedroom or dungeon.

I haven't yet been a Boy, although I've been in some NotGirl space a number of times. I'm not sure how to explain it. But I definitely didn't feel like a girl or woman. I'd wear my strap-on, and my daddy and I would play almost like I was a boy, but I never quite felt like a boy. I don't know if I would have felt like a boy more if I'd played that way more and gotten more used to it. Maybe more opportunities will come up for me to explore that. It definitely was a great deal of fun. I also noticed that when I was in those NotGirl spaces, I was an older Kid than when I was Daddy's Girl. When I'm a Girl, I'm about 5, and when I was in the NotGirl headspace, I was more like 12 or so.

How far down the rabbit hole did I go? I've got a goodly handful of clothes, and not just plaid schoolgirl skirts, for dressing up. I've got some pictures of me with various mall Santas. I went to the State Fair every year for about 10 years with one partner or another as a kid, and stayed a kid the whole time we were there. I got adopted to one of my partners in a ceremony we made up ourselves.

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RE: Ageplay - 11/1/2005 9:34:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Has anyone ever played the reverse of the traditional younger=bottom/sub and older=top/dom ageplay scenario?

I ask cause I have.

I've very rarely had a parnter who could deal with the spoiled princess child in me whose daddy better give her everything she wants and NOW or he's been a bad daddy.....

Had a partner once write me a story with this sort of set-up.

Anyway, just thought I'd toss it out cause it seems very rare to have the younger role-played age be the dominant partner.

I've had a service daddy/top before. I've also known a couple of Little-Dom/Big-Sub relationships as well as a few who considered themselves more switches when it came to which of the ageplay pair had the power in the relationship.

Have you read the SandMUtopian Guardian with Sybil Holiday's and William Henkin's article about ageplay? I can't remember which issue it was in, but they went on at length about the various ageplay and gender and power-related roles they played together. I think they just about covered the gamut of combinations and permutations at various points.
Another place to look might be "Doing it for Daddy", edited by Pat Califia. The stories in there again covered just about every combination you can think of.

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RE: Ageplay - 11/1/2005 9:44:20 PM

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quote:

I'm also curious to know how far down the "rabbit hole" you go in everyday life with your ageplay. I find it highly addictive and am doing it every time i get the chance. I'm even contemplating dedicating a bedroom in the new house to a space in which i can 'play' and feel very young. While clothing is nice, decor and 'toys' are where it's at for me! ;)

I never really considered my little-girl-isms to be "ageplay" until I got into BDSM. I've always (always always) been the little girl who never grew up, and this part of me has come out in just about every relationship I've ever been in, both vanilla and not. Thus, I'm part "little girl" just about every day. My little girl/inner child is between the ages of 4-8, and this changes depending on my mood. I collect toys (teddy bears, vintage and new my little ponies, barbies), I color in coloring books, and I like The Berenstain Bears and Dr. Seuss books. I also watch a *lot* of cartoons (my favorites are Foster's, Spongebob, and Courage the Cowardly Dog). So, "age play" is definitely part of my everyday life. It's part of me, not a roleplaying game.

I also do not mix my sex life with my "age play" or little girl-isms.

quote:

For those of you who are also M/s, does this become a burden on the top after a few years? I mean, have You ever just wanted to say 'grow up!' and go back to roles where the child persona now has to behave as an adult and take on more 'responsibility'??

As far as I know, no. My dom is not really a "daddy" persay, but he does enjoy my little girl-isms, and he has no problem enjoying that part of my personality. Of course, I don't let my little girl part out when I do have to be a "grown up". I am perfectly capable of taking responsibility for myself and I know how to behave like an adult.

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And as the 'child' or 'teen' do you feel guilty for reverting to a simpler time, when you in all actuality still have the responsibilities of an adult? How do you negotiate them for both partners?

No, I do not. I feel more comfortable (significantly so) in my little-girl "skin" than in my submissive or dominant "skins". Whenever I'm feeling unsure, or loveable, or close to my partner, or whatever else, I know that I can revert to the little-girl place and just...be.

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RE: Ageplay - 11/3/2005 8:02:21 AM

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Dove has he rown bedroom. She has her books, toys and trinkets in there. She may decorate it as she choose. Currently it is yellow& blue with moons and stars. (She is a witchy lil girl)

We do engage in age play often. But she always knows when its time to be the grown up slave that I want and need. If the lil 6yr old pops her lil head up at a time that is not appropriate i simply use a firm tone of voice, and say "Mine, not now" this helps her to change gears, an revert to the grownup slave self.

Sometimes owning a 6yr old is trying. Especially if she wants to goof around, and I need her to be more serious. Other times it is refreshing, as it reminds me not to take life to seriously all the time, and allow myself to have a bit of fun.

We do talk about when it is and isn't acceptable for her to be a 6yr old old. She generally will ask me when the need comes up..."Daddy, can i be 6 today?" Then its up to me whether or not I allow it.

Sometimes it is as simple as "What does the 6yr old want to do?" If its horsing around, and I dont have time, I tell her, maybe later. Or suggest that she have a jammies day, as she does her usual house chores. Telling her as a reward Daddy will make pop corn for TV time, and she can color if she is quiet.

She had a hard time being a lil girl at first, because she was never allowed to be one when she was younger. I felt this was a safe opportunity for her to explore some fun, and child hood- even if she is older. It has also helped her with trust issues, and learning that some Daddies do keep thier promises, and take good care fo their little girls.

When we engage in age play, and I do allow her to be 6yrs old, we do not engage in any form of sex. For us, that is simply a line we have decided NOT to cross, because of past abuse. I want my 6yr old to be 6yr, and feel safe and secure in her childhood. But whe she hs her grown up/slave hat on- thats whe we have grown up relations.

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RE: Ageplay - 11/3/2005 8:44:04 AM

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I do enjoy age play. I never thought i would utter those words. But having been collared to Master Hawk, who could see that i clearly did not have a chance to be kid, when i was kid; i have learned to love being a 6yr old, at the age of 36.

Do i cross genders? Yes and no. I think life is about balance. I am very in touch with my femme-girlie side. But i also have a strong tom boyish side. Does it make me a boy/boi? I dont think so.

Though on occassion i really love it when Daddy takes me fishing, or to the sporting goods shop to look at new poles, lures, or guns. Or when Daddy lets me ride in His truck, especiallyif i can ride in the back! I also have days when the tom-boy comes out (like today) And i get to wear a pair of carpenter jeans, a naughty T-shirt with Betty page on it, and my sneakers and baseball hat.

But who knows, tommorow i might be in mary janes, and a short skirt, or in a long skirt, blouse and heals, and be a grown up.

Belonging to Him, is like being in the army, i get to be all i can be! *giggles* Runs out to play with her puppy, and feed the rabbits.

-dove

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RE: Ageplay - 11/3/2005 9:54:19 AM

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subversiveone....

I have a playmate who enjoys many variations of ageplay, including genderplay. Actually, he probably sees himself as more of a little girl than a little boy, but, I also enjoy playing with toddler and baby boys. He does get into the role of a toddler boy once I force it.

I introduce the role that I want to act out several days to several weeks in advance. If I want to play with my toddler boy, I begin calling him by the name I have assigned for that role. In this case, it is dickie pudpuller...isn't that hilarious? lol...anyway, I give him tasks to do, like going to the store to buy diapers, toddler babyfood, teething biscuits or what have you. Also we go online and look at adult baby clothing and talk about what dickie would look adorable in. In the past, I have assigned the task of learning age-appropriate nursery rhymes.

The ageplay for us is not sexually oriented so much as it is based on discipline and nurturing.

I'm always happy to chat and exchange ideas with anyone, so feel free to contact me!

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