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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/26/2008 4:00:34 PM

darchChylde

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Hey darch...was it "your" rant?

of course it was... on jokaroo.com from 2005... but i can't find it, dammit

but the rant was basically about the paradox of the phrase, just going nuts on it... something like "Trust me when i say you should never trust anybody who says 'trust me'."

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/26/2008 4:06:48 PM

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something like "Trust me when i say you should never trust anybody who says 'trust me'."

Well, to set your mind at ease, that's not the way I mean it at all. I'm just referring to the fact that as time goes on, some things that seemed so shocking at first, become more normalized with time, exposure, knowledge, education and experience. And, then one day, you realize, it isn't so crazy after all.

Does that make sense? Can you relate to that? Aren't there any things you've done later on that at first you were very reluctant about? For whatever reason.

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/26/2008 4:39:02 PM

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something like "Trust me when i say you should never trust anybody who says 'trust me'."

Well, to set your mind at ease, that's not the way I mean it at all. I'm just referring to the fact that as time goes on, some things that seemed so shocking at first, become more normalized with time, exposure, knowledge, education and experience. And, then one day, you realize, it isn't so crazy after all.

Does that make sense? Can you relate to that? Aren't there any things you've done later on that at first you were very reluctant about? For whatever reason.

This is a nice conversation, it touches on pushing boundaries and limits as a couple get deeper inside each others thoughts and feelings.

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/26/2008 4:56:18 PM

darchChylde

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something like "Trust me when i say you should never trust anybody who says 'trust me'."

Well, to set your mind at ease, that's not the way I mean it at all. I'm just referring to the fact that as time goes on, some things that seemed so shocking at first, become more normalized with time, exposure, knowledge, education and experience. And, then one day, you realize, it isn't so crazy after all.

Does that make sense? Can you relate to that? Aren't there any things you've done later on that at first you were very reluctant about? For whatever reason.

Oh, it's not a rant about the idea at all; which i completely understand. It's more over the phrase itself, one of the many phrases that we use everyday that i think many would stop using if they really thought about it. It's not an attack on you or calling you stupid; it's just a pet peeve that i've become a little more peevish about since i've got a Dominant who loves when i make broad statements... Use your imagination, i'm sure you can think of way to take sadistic and humiliating pleasure after hearing your submissive make a broad statement. Think of something like "I would eat anything if there's mustard on it.".

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/26/2008 7:06:53 PM

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Think of something like "I would eat anything if there's mustard on it.".

ROFL....Sorry. Couldn't help it. But to me, your example is more of a "be careful what you say," versus a "never say never."

In your example...someone makes a claim....later to be held to their word.

In my example....someone expresses no desire whatsoever, then later decides it might be pleasureable, after all.

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/27/2008 1:31:46 AM

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Alright a couple of things here..i said never to golden showers and i still have a limit regarding them,,,,i won't drink it nor do i want it splashed in my face but anywhere else on the torso is acceptable..i am alittle touchy about food play as i won't eat something out of a Domina's pussy but if banana slices for example were placed on the lips...then by all means..of course the same would be true for breasts.

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/27/2008 7:29:29 AM

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Oh, it's not a rant about the idea at all; which i completely understand. It's more over the phrase itself, one of the many phrases that we use everyday that i think many would stop using if they really thought about it. It's not an attack on you or calling you stupid; it's just a pet peeve that i've become a little more peevish about since i've got a Dominant who loves when i make broad statements... Use your imagination, i'm sure you can think of way to take sadistic and humiliating pleasure after hearing your submissive make a broad statement. Think of something like "I would eat anything if there's mustard on it.".

*giggling*

i had a friend when i was young, who foolishly asked for ketchup for a very fine steak. his father declined to serve it, saying the steak didnt need covering over. friend did then foolishly and loudly claim that he loved EVERYTHING with ketchup, and the dad handed him the bottle.

for some silly reason the same ketchup served on a slice of chocolate cake didnt appeal. that was how he learned the meaning of the word "hyperbole".

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/27/2008 8:38:26 AM

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*evil Domme cackle*

I'll bet you never imagined yourself having an evil, Domme cackle for that matter!!

Actually, in real life it's more like a cute Domme giggle. But don't tell. :P

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/27/2008 9:05:00 AM

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*evil Domme cackle*

I'll bet you never imagined yourself having an evil, Domme cackle for that matter!!

Actually, in real life it's more like a cute Domme giggle. But don't tell. :P

When my pet insists he heard me giggle, I tell him that it's quite impossible I NEVER giggle... then I usually go into a laughing spurt.
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I can remember thinking when I first got back into "it" that there were some things that looked so over the top I'd never do them.
Don't remember if I voiced a "NEVER" opinion out loud or not, but I can almost bet that I was wrong, or I've changed my mind by now.

I was in a different mindset then, coming from a long hiatus from any kind of kink, never mind D/s or M/s

Now, I am much more open, although I still have my own personal bias.

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/27/2008 9:15:31 AM

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I usually have the opposite problem...I want to do everything (within reason) of course. After 21 years in the lifestyle...I still find new and exciting things to try, people to learn from and experiences yet to be discovered, which is a wonderful thing. Instead of "never say never" I usually say "I'll try anything once" which is as equally as damning.

The one thing that sticks out in my mind is I was very adamant to not wanting to play with cross dressers/gender bending and now it is a very vital part of my play with my submissive. I was able to see the beauty in this type of play with the right person and I am so happy I didn't pass on this person, who turned out to be the love of my life.

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/27/2008 10:18:55 AM

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ketchup served on a slice of chocolate cake

Like....ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/27/2008 10:20:28 AM

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more like a cute Domme giggle. But don't tell. :P

I hear ya!! Stuff like that can ruin a good Domme's reputation!!

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/27/2008 10:23:24 AM

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I was able to see the beauty in this type of play with the right person and I am so happy I didn't pass on this person, who turned out to be the love of my life.

I'm happy you didn't pass on it either!!!!

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RE: NEVER say Never.... - 2/27/2008 11:32:53 PM

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We both used to scoff at 24/7 15 years ago when we first got together, thought it was pure fantasy.....well 15 years later thats how we live behind closed doors, full protocol, total femdom.....Never say never indeed

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