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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 5:50:26 PM   
SixFootMaster


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Not you personally, m'lady, but we get our cross-over visitors.

I don't have a chip on my shoulder except to ignorance and prejudice. I'm here just to keep things balanced, which I'm sure is the justification for visits to the "other side" by yon ladies.

Nor do I "have a submissive in tow". Soshi found the post on her own, and has been talked regarding posting on a conversation I considered closed.

You want to be treated like inferior little upstart? Or is everything I've ever seen you write not part of the "for the most part"? Lady, you exude arrogance and condescension, and your replies are often circular and prejudiced. At least I'm honest enough to admit it.

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 5:51:24 PM   
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How are we supposed to know what one means when they speak?  We are going by the words. If you find fault with that, I am sorry.  Let's all call it good now... it seems this is a pattern I don't wish to take part in any further.  If you wish to address it further with me... we can do that in email thank you. 

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 5:56:43 PM   
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Fair enough.

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 5:56:58 PM   
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Yep, I'm prepared to call it miss-communication and leave it at that. This is why it's usually not a good idea to insult someone unless you are absolutely sure of what they have written, and to be prepared to eat crow if it turns out you're wrong. Hey, I'm not above apologizing if/when I get it wrong. I can be cocky, arrogant, and condescending - but I'm usually pretty careful about what I write regardless of tone.

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 5:58:30 PM   
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<fast reply>

quote:

Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain"

Of course, the bottom of the food chain is far more ecologically important than the top.

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:26:25 PM   
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As for those men that are truly submissive (at least IMHO of what that means: wanting to turn over power to a woman, and finding their happiness in serving her) they are actually not easy to come by as you may think.



i'm not saying that they are; i just agree with the idea that if one were to try to diagram a social hierarchy of BDSM orientations, in terms of respect and desireability, no one ranks lower than hetero male subs.

...dave
(who knows things are gettin' tougher, when you can't get the top off the bottom of the barrel... )

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:31:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: petdave

i'm not saying that they are; i just agree with the idea that if one were to try to diagram a social hierarchy of BDSM orientations, in terms of respect and desireability, no one ranks lower than hetero male subs.


i always felt the unnattached guys who wander around, looking at scenes and half-naked women and wanking sort of managed to make it to the absolute bottom.


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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:34:24 PM   
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I guess I have to go with trolls being at the bottom, but I see people equally, just different.

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:35:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: petdave

...no one ranks lower than hetero male subs.




that's a load of crap. you really need to stop.

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:36:15 PM   
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Yes, creepy troll guys are at the bottom, regardless of orientation.  There may be creepy troll females, as well, I just haven't encountered any.  Yet.

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:40:12 PM   
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You've never seen nor heard of creepy troll females?

Care to look at my inbox? :-p

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:41:28 PM   
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LOL Shawn!  I've just gotten my first the other day! I feel for ya dude! lol

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:43:57 PM   
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But when have any of us went to a club and found an unnattached woman wandering around masturbating?  i haven't, and i've been watching for it.

Come on ladies, equal rights... Please go to the clubs and masturbate!!!


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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:50:54 PM   
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I AM, sweetie, you just can't tell!!

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 6:54:15 PM   
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The wankers, clueless assholes and idiotically annoying brats tend to be on the bottom, and that's not just male subs.

That about covers it.

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 7:08:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

I guess I have to go with trolls being at the bottom, but I see people equally, just different.


Well, i lump them in with "noise"... i'm talking about people who are actually a part, or sincerely trying to be a part of, the lifestyle.

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 7:18:14 PM   
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As a male sub I am only "bottom of the food chain" if I negotiate myself into that role.  If I have a Dom who allowed comments like that in that setting and did not defend me I would seriously consider my choice of who I have given myself to.  Male/female Dominate or sub you are only treated as you allow yourself to be.  Based on the original post if you remove the Dom/sub group and made it an environmental group I bet it would play out the same.  Maybe more subtitle but the same .



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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 8:00:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster
You want to be treated like inferior little upstart?


Edit:  nevermind.  Ugh. 

< Message edited by ShaktiSama -- 3/2/2008 8:02:19 PM >


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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 8:04:38 PM   
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it's more akin to racism than anything else, the whole food chain thing is like a skewed way of looking at supply and demand at best.  we're not looking at lions and elks here, and it's not even about rank in the comparison.

sure you can throw around numbers like 1 in 16 black americans are in prison, and likewise all sides of the table in bdsm have their own sets of statistics of how many are like "this or that".  surely few would also doubt the majority of wankers here are men, (dominant or not) and that women (dominant or not) are the ones most often barraged with their crap.  but like race, what group you are seperated into doesn't put anything into terms of the individual, or their value, or who will be of value to them.

submissive males "could be" the majority unwanted, and the majority of them "could be" worthless; my opinion would probably lead me to believe that to be true, and within some measure see some sort of relevance to the food chain statement because most of the submissive males i see are not so awesome as some of the ones i see on the forums, i see too many "do me's".  but we're all so different, it's really hard to group even us that are likeminded together.  but "we" and "they" and "you" are all sought after regardless of whether the supply and demand is balanced. 

for dominant males to have this view of submissive males is conceivably true in some degree simply because the majority probably does not care about "us" who don't likely concern them, so we likely are going to be held in lower regards, or adversely simply because some have an inferiority complex.  i would likewise neither put dominant males on the highest of pedestals, simply because they're not of my own concern, and for the most part i don't even respect them either by default, but i must acknowledge they are of just as much of value to some people as the female side is of value to me and the submissive's are of value to others.  if the dominants are important, so to will be the submissives.  etc. etc.

but hell, if the mistresses are the lions and tigers, why would i really want to be high up on the food chain in the first place?  i'd rather be what they're hunting for than what they avoid, also i'm quite happy with being pounced~

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RE: Males subs are the "bottom of the food chain&q... - 3/2/2008 8:27:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hopelesslyInvo

but hell, if the mistresses are the lions and tigers, why would i really want to be high up on the food chain in the first place?  i'd rather be what they're hunting for than what they avoid, also i'm quite happy with being pounced~


Sorry,  all the chipmunk through antelope positions are taken up by various sorts of female submissives... welcome to order Blattodea, brother!

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