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Termyn8or -> Societies (2/27/2008 11:32:07 PM)
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Well the other thread is too much now, so I thought I'd start another. This is another thought, something I propose as possible, but will not even attempt to prove. The subject is put out to get opinions and have a discussion, not to prove or disprove my assertions, which I state now are assertions not of fact.
Now, if we can all accept that.
To begin, most of mankind are explorative in nature. At least what we know of it. That is my point.
Now were the invaders, or visitors who came upon less developed societies recognized ? No they did not even know we existed. Tribes of the US before it's inception maybe, aborigine tribes in Austrailia, tribes of Africans. Before we came, they did not know of our existence. They may have because of previous excursions, and that, by one source is purported, the the Europeans came to the US long before even the 1400s. But that is neither here nor there.
If a race does not yet explore, I mean by building boats or whatever, how do they know that they are not the only people on Earth ? If Leif Erricson would have come to America, the account of his visit might be mythology. Too much time passes and history can become mythology, given peoples' extreme talent for embellishment. What if Magellen stopped by ? And I mean anywhere, not just (the) America(s). I bet there was quite a stir in any community like that.
Now, following that reasoning, it is known that the northern races built boats and explored. Not all northern either. But went to seek out new places and races. They were not afraid to go out and figure out how to communicate with different peoples'. Actually I admire that. It takes some guts because you could wind up in a soup pot in some places in the world. You have to learn some of their language before you can teach them yours, and that is the best case scenario. Try this with no translators or anything or the sort. Not an easy job.
But now the point of it all this. Suppose, just suppose, please just suppose that there is a society on this Earth that is more advanced than us.
We reach out, they do not, they see us as warlike and basically do not want to have anything to do with us. They have good enough technology that they do not have to fight for natural resources like us, and they just want to be left alone. They have no problem blocking any surveilance method we have. They might live in a heretofore unexplored part of the world. And there are some places the satellites can't see.
So here is the question : How would we know that they exist ?
The tribes and races we have infected with our diseases, put off their land and so forth, they did not know we were coming, they probably did not even know we exist, but they had no concerns about being discovered in alot of cases. Let's say this technologically superior race does not want to be found.
Argue against that if you care to, but satellite images of Antarctica are bit scarce, and with enough technology there could be an entire civilization under the snow anyway. Or under the ocean. Either place would be good for a society that wishes to remain undiscovered to go. Let the rest of us kill each other and then come out.
If they have the technology to survive on the deep part of the ocean floor, we would literally have to destroy this planet itself to hurt them. Just making the environment uninhabitable just means more time under the sea for them. Remember they do not want to find us, or to be found.
I am not talking any secret Masonic cult or any bullshit like that, I am talking an older and more advanced society. Totally seperate, and never discovered. Not Atlantis, nothing of the sort.
But the thing is, who can prove it does not exist ? There is some minor evidence that it does, but nothing even close to solid. But the point still is, prove it does not. Been to every inch of the Earth ? Seen everything on this planet ? If not, you are going to have a hard time disproving it.
I'm sure there will be more detail later, but for now, what effective argument can you give against the existence of a superior society, somewhere on this planet ?
Actually I have some evidence, but it is not yet time. Step by step.
Disprove the existence of a technologically superior society, not among us, just on this planet, in fact specifically NOT among us. Remember I am not talking about cliques of us, like some Bilderberg stuff or anything like that I am talking about people (or beings) we never knew existed.
And if they developed seperately for so long, I guess we would have to call them terrestrial aliens.
OK, it was really good stuff man, but I throw this out there, just don't start tearing each other up again. Keep it up and I'll have to stop, I did not come here to wreck the place.
Remember, THIS IS ALL HYPOTHETICAL. Please try to understand that. I am not saying I am not a nut, but I am not being a nut right now. This came into my mind a long time ago, so here it is. Do not treat this as an assertion that they do exist.
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