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Dom space? - 2/28/2008 1:55:44 AM

Aneirin

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Last night whilst attending my local munch, I heard the term ,' Dom space '. In truth, I have not heard this term before and would like to know more about it, so can anyone shine some light on this?

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 3:08:42 AM

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For me it is my equivalent of subspace. I think dom space is far more in the head than subspace. It is generally accepted that in a sub there are all the endorphins etc which affect sensation and thought processes, whereas I have never heard of such physiological actions associated with being the other end of the whip.

My enitre universe shrinks to me & who I am with at that moment. Senses become heightened and concentrated, it can sometimes feel almost out-of-body like as if I am not actually doing it, but observing myself doing it.

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 7:00:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddyKeeper

For me it is my equivalent of subspace. I think dom space is far more in the head than subspace. It is generally accepted that in a sub there are all the endorphins etc which affect sensation and thought processes, whereas I have never heard of such physiological actions associated with being the other end of the whip.

My enitre universe shrinks to me & who I am with at that moment. Senses become heightened and concentrated, it can sometimes feel almost out-of-body like as if I am not actually doing it, but observing myself doing it.

This is very true for me also, add exteemely energizing, the feeling I am full of white hot lightening, my whole being feels like it's crackling with electricity! And the feeling like the cat the ate the canary, the mouse and the cheese! My gawd I LOVE it!

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 7:58:27 AM

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I actually strongly disagree with what is routinely called "subspace" -- I see that more as bottomspace and there is a corresponding topspace where both people are focused on the physical activities. The bottom is getting further into his body through biochemical reactions to sensations, the top is getting very focused on creating the sensations and watching reactions.

Subspace and domspace, in my opinion, is about a psychological connection. For the sub a feeling that they are focused on the dominant and for the dominant the feeling that they too are focused on their right to control and direct things.

I think these are different headspaces.

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 9:07:22 AM

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I'll second Tammyjo

playing often isn't about D/s or a power dynamic...that's why we call it playing. And service is about that power dynamic...it's why it's service. So to say that the headspace for these things are different is completely understandable.

As for me...I enjoy topspace...I don't get to go there often given that people think I'm crazy when I top or bottom...because of the type of heavy scener that I am. I do so love to see MsK in top space though...She gets all done and She's like a big kitten...all pet Me here pet Me there...scratch this...and She gets to humming which I think is Her equivalent of purring and stretches out like a kitten after a round about of chase.

Domspace is not something I know about from experience...I've seen it in MsK when we talk in depth about our particular power dynamic and what it measn to each of us and to the relationship. She gets hyper and gets this look on Her face that tells me She's thinking about things. And from my part I like to see Her that way. It's over all steroid suped up warm fuzzies.

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 11:22:01 AM

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http://www.collarchat.com/m_1192481/mpage_1/key_dom%252Cspace/tm.htm#1193947
Doms: Dom space?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_541400/mpage_1/key_top%252Cspace/tm.htm#541409
Domspace...

http://www.collarchat.com/m_392370/mpage_1/key_top%252Cspace/tm.htm#392801
Dom space? What is it?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_378414/mpage_1/key_domspace/tm.htm#378441
subspace for doms?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_199603/mpage_1/key_topspace/tm.htm#199646
A state of?

Reposted:
Pretty much anything that's been said about subspace, applies to domspace or top space.

So, there's no real universal experience, there's many different types, people go into it for various reasons and through various ways and have various levels of conscious control when it occurs.

I've been with tops who became hyper focused and sensitive and been with doms who might as well have been on acid.

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 11:31:36 AM

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Thankyou.

Further to what I heard, the Dom in question said he needs to take regular breaks to avoid the domspace, as if it were something he'd rather not get into.

Those of you that have replied, perhaps what you said is a good explanation, as playing is the aim, not anything more serious.

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 11:35:45 AM

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Maybe the D in question just knows and understands his own limitation and his d-space may make him 'space out' which means he doesn;t feel he can be responsible whilst in it. D-space touches each person different. And ya got mail!

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 12:20:54 PM

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I thoroughly enjoy the Dominant role, and i am a bit of a sadist but i can't say i have ever experienced what i would call Dom space. I'm not sure that i would enjoy like it either, maybe i just have the wrong end of the stick and if anyone can show me the right end of the stick id be happy to listen, but i enjoy control and not just over another but control i have over myself and my feelings, I'm not sure i would enjoy being in any kind of "space" especially if it resembled sub space in any respect. I understand the heightened pleasure i get from toping than in other situations but like i said i like to feel in control of not just the situation but myself as well I'm not sure if i experienced it i would i like it.

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 12:36:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

I actually strongly disagree with what is routinely called "subspace" -- I see that more as bottomspace and there is a corresponding topspace where both people are focused on the physical activities. The bottom is getting further into his body through biochemical reactions to sensations, the top is getting very focused on creating the sensations and watching reactions.

Subspace and domspace, in my opinion, is about a psychological connection. For the sub a feeling that they are focused on the dominant and for the dominant the feeling that they too are focused on their right to control and direct things.

I think these are different headspaces.

Jeeze you say potato.....I don't see a difference. Either term to your way to thinking there is a connection at some basic level. Just to complicate the issue even more using your logic. There could be realtionship space that combines both. Call it what you will. To the OP. Clear as mud?

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 12:48:47 PM

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It's actually a very important distinction. Just because one plays as a bottom and gets into that space doesn't mean they are submissive...so to call it that type of headspace...especially to a Dominant...is absolutley incorrect in the implication of the term.

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 12:57:51 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

I actually strongly disagree with what is routinely called "subspace" -- I see that more as bottomspace and there is a corresponding topspace where both people are focused on the physical activities. The bottom is getting further into his body through biochemical reactions to sensations, the top is getting very focused on creating the sensations and watching reactions.

Subspace and domspace, in my opinion, is about a psychological connection. For the sub a feeling that they are focused on the dominant and for the dominant the feeling that they too are focused on their right to control and direct things.

I think these are different headspaces.

Jeeze you say potato.....I don't see a difference. Either term to your way to thinking there is a connection at some basic level. Just to complicate the issue even more using your logic. There could be realtionship space that combines both. Call it what you will. To the OP. Clear as mud?

BadOne

Then you don't need to use the terms as I do, now do you?

I have experienced both top and domspace -- there is a difference for me, a rather large different about who is the center of my attention.

I've spoke to people who have experience both sub and bottomspace -- they tell me there is a different for them.

There may well be an overlap for some people and they would need to come up with a term or phrase to cover that I think. I don't think that should be up to someone who has not experienced both at the same time. Since I haven't experience both at the same time, I won't come up with such a term.

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 1:13:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Then you don't need to use the terms as I do, now do you?

I have experienced both top and domspace -- there is a difference for me, a rather large different about who is the center of my attention.

I've spoke to people who have experience both sub and bottomspace -- they tell me there is a different for them.

There may well be an overlap for some people and they would need to come up with a term or phrase to cover that I think. I don't think that should be up to someone who has not experienced both at the same time. Since I haven't experience both at the same time, I won't come up with such a term.

I was giving the OP differing views so they can make a informed decision. Because I don't agree with you I'm NOT implying that it's not true for you.

BadOne

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 1:15:10 PM

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Ok, the physiological explanation of Domspace and subspace. Subspace most likely results from the flood of endorphins into the bloodstream. Endorphins, of which there are 4 types, can result from many different types of stimuli. To one person, being called derogatory names can cause endorphins to flow, to another cleaning a bathroom can cause them. Everyone has their own way to trigger endorphins to flow. The effect of endorphins in the bloodstream are similar to opiates, causing euphoria, heightened pleasure sensations, increased blood flow, increased tollerance to pain. The body's defense to surviving trauma or exhaustion. Now Domspace is similar, because it can result from endorphins, but most likely comes from the rush of adrenalin. Adrenalin has a different affect on the body, increasing focus, heighting senses. Adrenalin is the body's way of surging through and finishing a difficult task, think The Hulk, hehe. The story of the mother lifting the car off her baby. Adrenalin makes one focus on one thing or purpose, where endorphins make one focus introspectively. Outside onself versus inside onself.

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RE: Dom space? - 2/28/2008 3:03:07 PM

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lol... it is a fine line to walk, eh?
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

quote:

ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Then you don't need to use the terms as I do, now do you?

I have experienced both top and domspace -- there is a difference for me, a rather large different about who is the center of my attention.

I've spoke to people who have experience both sub and bottomspace -- they tell me there is a different for them.

There may well be an overlap for some people and they would need to come up with a term or phrase to cover that I think. I don't think that should be up to someone who has not experienced both at the same time. Since I haven't experience both at the same time, I won't come up with such a term.

I was giving the OP differing views so they can make a informed decision. Because I don't agree with you I'm NOT implying that it's not true for you.

BadOne

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