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help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 7:19:36 AM   
Kitte9


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Status: offline 		I am making a chain flogger with a wooden handle. It is coming along nicely. Does anyone know of a urethane/sealer I can use on the wood that is safe enough for insertion? The handle will be designed for penetration.

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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 7:39:16 AM   
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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 7:55:34 AM   
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I am making a chain flogger with a wooden handle. It is coming along nicely. Does anyone know of a urethane/sealer I can use on the wood that is safe enough for insertion? The handle will be designed for penetration.


I would look into the marine epoxies, and their sealers. (epoxy is not cool in ultraviolet lights)

and you might find someone in your area that makes canoe paddles, see what they use for epoxy.

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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 8:13:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Raw linseed oil. not the boiled, Raw. It is non toxic and easy to reapply

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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 9:20:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Kitte9 , I regret that I do not know where to find the stuff, but several companies make a food grade poly resin sealer that may be appropriate. Give it a try on google. I know this because they use this on the inside of wooden mugs and bowls.

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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 10:58:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are food grade polyurethanes available. They would probably be your best choice as they would also encapsulate the handle to minimize the risk of splinters.

Elastochem-FG80 -- Food Grade Polyurethane Coating

Product Description: Two component, 1:1 mix ratio, Food Grade Polyurethane Coating. Meets FDA requirements for dry, wet, and oily food contact.

Product Use: This coating is intended for use on surfaces that require a food grade coating.

Properties: This product has a 80A duometer hardness, with excellent tensile and tear strength.
 
http://www.elastochem-ca.com/index.html

As an aside....if you use stainless steel chain you can sterilize it and insert the chain as well. You can find that at Bosun Supplies.

http://www.bosunsupplies.com/

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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 12:27:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would use mineral oil to seal it.  It is food safe.  Before you use the item I would seal it with at least 4 heavy coats of oil, and then allow 24 hours to soak in.  Then about every month apply a coat. 

Plus you do not have to worry about it getting on the chain portion and flaking off. 

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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 4:25:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		you can get food grade quality finishes.  the best brand is something called "The Good Stuff".  you wipe it on and off, let it dry for a few hours then re apply.  it is used on cutting boards and chopping blocks.

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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 5:11:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with the oils to seal this item though the wood no matter how well you sand it shall always be pouris and take in fluids .A raincoat aka condom is alway a good idea for this type of insertable material  .Marine finishes and urethanes will wear  chip and break off  over time .you may also get transfer from stains, varnishes , oils and sealers .if your using it as a flogger , then to insert  your also getting  hand oils and germ transfer with out the luv glove .Besides it so much faster and easier to clean after use .
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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 6:57:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		http://www.epoxysystems.com/214.htm Bartop epoxy resin is what you need very hard, food safe, clear. multi dips of the handle with drying in between can build up a very hard and thick layer.

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RE: help with a flogger - 2/28/2008 7:00:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with the need for a condom when the handle is inserted .. cleanup is easier and it is much more sanitary ...

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RE: help with a flogger - 3/7/2008 1:40:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was going to say liquid latex and just peel the latex off after play, but the condom idea seems more tried and true!

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RE: help with a flogger - 3/8/2008 5:04:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		You really should not use wood at all if you intend to use it as an insertable.

The wood WILL splinter when you clean it, no matter what sealer you use. 

If you use the sealer they use on bar tops, which could be used the wood would have to be so thin anyway there would be no point in even using it.

That is why there are no medical tools made from wood, they will splinter and split with moisture, even just humidity

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RE: help with a flogger - 3/8/2008 12:50:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		now I'm intrigued.. let us know how it turns out will ya? my thought was something like the laquer they put on good chopsticks... not the cheapo wooder ones but the kind ment to be cleaned and reused- they are wood but are able to be sanitized, are non toxic and hold up pretty well... even in the dishwasher!

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RE: help with a flogger - 3/9/2008 7:43:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes.....It would have to agree...... a food grade poly is most likely the only option for obvious reasons.(short of a condom).with umteem coats..8-10    i'd dip it or spray it to make sure its completely covered.....mineral oils and the like while safe with food for uses on cutting boards etc will not do anything for health and safety issues in this area. I work with wood all day long and know that the resins that can leach out of certain wood fibers can be extremely harmful and toxic if not sealed properly. 

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RE: help with a flogger - 3/14/2008 9:00:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you all for your replies. I have some research to do now, don't I?

edited for spelling

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RE: help with a flogger - 3/22/2008 12:04:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Have you considered attaching a clear dildo sleeve to the handle for penetration? Would seem more... sanitary to me. Just a thought.

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RE: help with a flogger - 4/1/2008 8:28:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Your problem is a common one.  One that has kept wood products off the insertions market and out of the mainstream.

That is until now.  Our company has been working with medical companies for more than 2-years and we now have a completely bio-compatible, lubricious and waterproof coating called Lubrosity that is applied to all of our functional sculptures.  NobEssence.com If you are in a location where Babeland and or Good Vibrations stores are located you and get a feel of it.

Our company goldfish has been in a tank with our Romp for 3 months.  Both fish and sculpture are happy.

While we can not share with you the coating technology known as Lubrosity TM, we could perhaps coat your toy (because you are part of our community).  Let use know if you are interested.

Cheers,
Jason
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