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Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 11:21:03 AM   
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So I started to write a blog, and then i didnt seem to be able to stop writing and i thought wow i seriosuly must have some issues here and thought maybe it would be interesting to see what other peoples take on it is. I am not sure the location in which to put it because its more philisophical and stuff. Sorry its long reading and it may be a bit jumbled up.



We are given our morals and ideals, the impact on us from birth and then affect us for the rest of our life. What happens if they are wrong? Most things in life are theoretical virtually nothing is fact, to live our life by a list of mantras would be restricting and harming and yet it seems we all do. This is right and this is wrong, I force my brain into this black and white view. I strive to achieve the things expected of me, and when I fail I dont question the expectation but myself, why couldnt I do it what is wrong with me. Maybe I cant do it because I am not meant to do it. Maybe these things that I have been told I need are the very things that will hurt me the most if I get them. But now how am I meant to re-program this into my brain, tell it that its ok when deep down my body pulsates with self loathing. My self destructive nature may not be that at all, maybe I dont gravitate towards stuff that will hurt me for that reason maybe I am simply unaware of what hurts me. I have always felt lonley since forever, I have always wanted these ideals, to be beautiful have lots of friends and a loving relationship, but then I hate going out i dont like that many people I would rather be comfy and feel good than make others think i look good, I get bored of people. When I sit in my room I think, god I am sad i should be out, when I am out I think god I want to go home. Where did my desire to go out come from? not from me but from what I think I am supposed to want. Everyone needs human contact of course, but do i need to talk to people simply for the sake of talking? Do I have to hate myself for not giving a toss about who is going out with who and who got drunk last week?

We are living in a lifestyle outside of the norm, we have been honest about these desires for whatever reason, how honest have we been? who knows I know that my desire to submit doesnt come 100% from a nice fluffy happy place, and I know that If i was honest about where it does come from I would be looked down on just as I am sure i would look down on others honesty. Yet though we bang on about honesty in the lifestyle people wont even accept it in themselves. They wont admit to something for fear of being called a fake. Why are they not real people? Does not fitting into the box make their feelings less valid? I label myself submissive, and i rather enjoy biting and scratching people, i laugh when i watch f being caned, does that mean I am not submissive? does that mean I am Domme? and who gives a fuck? If I want to identify with the term sub who the fuck has the right to tell me if I am or am not? Why is it that in a place where we are not accepted by people outside it do people inside it judge the most?

Humans have a desire for supremacy, we label the fuck out of things so that we can alianate people from the group, feel that we belong more, "no if you dont feel that then you arent real". I think that this has been one of my biggest issues to overcome and its so unhealthy, we fight our desires because we ourselves start to believe that if we feel a certain thing is makes us less valid. No person ever has only pure thoughts, no person is selfless, we all have the capacity for evil as well as good. This is not to say there are no bad people of course there are and there are nice people but its a raging scale and no one is 100% of either, and the least we admit that the worst that we are. Those who claim to be the most non judgemental, least bigoted and most enlightened are often the biggest liers, they still feel bigotry and judgement they just refuse to admit it, I have felt all ranges of bigoted thoughts in my life and I have judged people on all manner of things that they dont deserve to be judged on. I admit it, send out the lynch mob ill be waiting. I dont care to be honest we all do it we are just too afraid to admit it.

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 11:24:53 AM   
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i like your chest.. 

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 11:33:58 AM   
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Yeah i like it too, it goes all wibbly wobbly when i bounce :P

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 11:49:28 AM   
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Wanting friends doesn't have to mean life of the party. I think if you are in a group of twenty all being loud and boisterous, then of course you will feel lonely if you aren't feeling up for it. Having close friends you can share with is more important imo.

As far as family values. The values they espoused may well be right and good things, but if they went about teaching them to you in the wrong way, of course you will feel estranged. For example, teaching someone young not to hit. If you scream at them that they are horrible and unlovable because they hit their little sister, you aren't going to get them to love their sister and be nice to her. If you take off your belt and wail on them for hitting, they aren't going to learn that hitting is wrong, simply that they have to be bigger to get away with it. However the  message "don't hurt others" is not necessarily wrong, just because their parenting skills left a lot to be desired.

How to deal with all these issues? Find people you trust and talk about them. Share the shameful bits and take the power from the memories by not hiding the truth anymore.

You know, you need more training to get, and keep, a driver's license than you do to be a parent. And there's something really wrong with that. And if the person who taught you didn't know the rules in the first place, there's no shame in going to someone smarter and more trustworthy to learn how to do it right.

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 12:12:15 PM   
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I kinda think you missed the point, I dont see what I wrote as a cry for help, I see it more as a much needed moment of clarity. I wasnt talking about family values, society, the world life teaches us what to think 

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 12:26:39 PM   
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Damn, I thought it was a thread about boobs!

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 12:31:53 PM   
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what ever u said- it made no sense to me

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 12:38:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Damn, I thought it was a thread about boobs!


Me too.  Stuff on my chest = nipples

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 12:39:52 PM   
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Colouredin - youre 21. What youre going through I believe is what everyone does - trying to refigure the world and yourself and how it all works from what you were brought up to think, to how things really are. There are no easy answers, there is no great truth to find except that nothing is black and white and in the end you can only come to your own understandings and accomodations.

The end result of this is when you can stand up and say "this is me, I know me and like me and if anyone doesnt like me, that is their problem", and truly, honestly not care what anyone else thinks.

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 12:46:43 PM   
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Has no one heard the term "ive gotta get this off my chest"? sorry to disapoint about the not being about tits thing. 

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 12:51:31 PM   
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I think the best advice ever given was in Hamlet as Polonius sent his son off to college:

This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.

< Message edited by SubbieOnWheels -- 2/29/2008 12:52:55 PM >


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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 1:48:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

Has no one heard the term "ive gotta get this off my chest"? sorry to disapoint about the not being about tits thing. 


Hmm.  Well, let's see.  You stated in your first paragraph that you wanted other people's opinions.  Why get angry or defensive when you hear them?  You're getting some insight; might not jive with your perceptions, but I'm pretty sure they weren't meant to - they were just opinions, what you asked for.

*tosses in two shiny coins*

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We are given our morals and ideals, the impact on us from birth and then affect us for the rest of our life. What happens if they are wrong? Most things in life are theoretical virtually nothing is fact, to live our life by a list of mantras would be restricting and harming and yet it seems we all do. This is right and this is wrong, I force my brain into this black and white view. I strive to achieve the things expected of me, and when I fail I dont question the expectation but myself, why couldnt I do it what is wrong with me. Maybe I cant do it because I am not meant to do it. Maybe these things that I have been told I need are the very things that will hurt me the most if I get them. But now how am I meant to re-program this into my brain, tell it that its ok when deep down my body pulsates with self loathing. My self destructive nature may not be that at all, maybe I dont gravitate towards stuff that will hurt me for that reason maybe I am simply unaware of what hurts me. I have always felt lonley since forever, I have always wanted these ideals, to be beautiful have lots of friends and a loving relationship, but then I hate going out i dont like that many people I would rather be comfy and feel good than make others think i look good, I get bored of people. When I sit in my room I think, god I am sad i should be out, when I am out I think god I want to go home. Where did my desire to go out come from? not from me but from what I think I am supposed to want. Everyone needs human contact of course, but do i need to talk to people simply for the sake of talking? Do I have to hate myself for not giving a toss about who is going out with who and who got drunk last week?



You pick your own morals and ethics in life, eventually; although it's true you start with what you see and what you're taught.  If you choose to change your outlook and get some indigestion from guilt, that's about par for the course - but what does that mean to you?  Is the source of negative feelings because you didn't stay true to your beginnings, or because the new path doesn't actually suit?

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We are living in a lifestyle outside of the norm, we have been honest about these desires for whatever reason, how honest have we been? who knows I know that my desire to submit doesnt come 100% from a nice fluffy happy place, and I know that If i was honest about where it does come from I would be looked down on just as I am sure i would look down on others honesty. Yet though we bang on about honesty in the lifestyle people wont even accept it in themselves. They wont admit to something for fear of being called a fake. Why are they not real people? Does not fitting into the box make their feelings less valid? I label myself submissive, and i rather enjoy biting and scratching people, i laugh when i watch f being caned, does that mean I am not submissive? does that mean I am Domme? and who gives a fuck? If I want to identify with the term sub who the fuck has the right to tell me if I am or am not? Why is it that in a place where we are not accepted by people outside it do people inside it judge the most?



The term 'normal' is relative.  It can change by geography, culture, or the decade in question.  We don't put children to work at the age of six anymore, but that was once acceptable.

Honesty is also subjective when you apply emotion.  Are you talking logic or morals?  If the latter...see above.  If the former, then you're facing clinical fact; digest it as you will, for it won't always taste pleasant, either.

People with a little knowledge are more likely to judge than someone with no knowledge, and they will base their judgment on what they know.  If you feel labelled and don't like it, welcome to the English language and the human race.  Both are chock full of diverse methodolgies, philosophies, and interpretation.  Forget how you're perceived - which you will never change; will change and regret; or may influence with some luck, only to face a copy of your own opinion - and concern yourself with how you see yourself [again, see above].

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Humans have a desire for supremacy, we label the fuck out of things so that we can alianate people from the group, feel that we belong more, "no if you dont feel that then you arent real". I think that this has been one of my biggest issues to overcome and its so unhealthy, we fight our desires because we ourselves start to believe that if we feel a certain thing is makes us less valid. No person ever has only pure thoughts, no person is selfless, we all have the capacity for evil as well as good. This is not to say there are no bad people of course there are and there are nice people but its a raging scale and no one is 100% of either, and the least we admit that the worst that we are. Those who claim to be the most non judgemental, least bigoted and most enlightened are often the biggest liers, they still feel bigotry and judgement they just refuse to admit it, I have felt all ranges of bigoted thoughts in my life and I have judged people on all manner of things that they dont deserve to be judged on. I admit it, send out the lynch mob ill be waiting. I dont care to be honest we all do it we are just too afraid to admit it.



Humans have a survival instinct, which necessitates competition on occasion.  Don't mistake that for the urge to be superior.  Those are two separate layers of the brain; different roots even if the outcomes match.

Good and evil are also subjective; there is no universal definition for either, only what is generally accepted.  This also seems to be a perception issue for you; and as the matter has already been addressed [points up a bit].

Assuming that something is actually its opposite is not an uncommon occurance; it's not often right, either.

Now, granted, you didn't ask for advice, but I'll offer it anyways, because that's a part of my nature.

Take a deep breath.

Say, "Fuck it."

Be yourself.

You'll be happier in the long run.




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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 2:07:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

Has no one heard the term "ive gotta get this off my chest"? sorry to disapoint about the not being about tits thing. 


Of course we have but boobs are way more fun than bitching.


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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 2:29:37 PM   
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you cant make a refridgeratotr be a stove  or a stove be a refridgerator.

now insert the term "cyber  profile"  and  "real life""real""no games"   by the nets very nature it is gaming.  click here click there.  install this virus that. is your penis big enough. win millions. no games be real.  see?

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 2:42:37 PM   
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Yeah i like it too, it goes all wibbly wobbly when i bounce :P


i would love to see this in action....show me yours i show you mine!


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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 3:11:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

Yeah i like it too, it goes all wibbly wobbly when i bounce :P


i would love to see this in action....show me yours i show you mine!



Aww hun I'd show you mine for free i mean it is simply to show you the wibbly wobbly ness, scientific really :P


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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 3:48:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Damn, I thought it was a thread about boobs!


Me too.  Stuff on my chest = nipples



I was hopin' for piercings.....sighsssssssssss

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 3:48:53 PM   
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Tease!

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RE: Stuff on my chest - 2/29/2008 4:12:45 PM   
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As the title suggests...l gotta say thanks a bunch...The dredge report for telling the world that Prince Harry was in Afganistan, the worlds newspapers agreed to block the reporting of this posting...but hey...guess the yankee press just couldn't resist a sale....

oh and pssssssssssssssss the tanks with the union flags clearly painted on the top.....are ours.....

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