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Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 10:16:43 AM   
FTopinMichigan


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Status: offline 		I got an introductory e-mail the other day, with a man stating that he wanted to take my wet panties and wear them throughout the day. The name he chose, on here, also clearly reflected his "panty" fetish. His e-mail correspondence was built around his fetish alone.

As his "Introduction" only detailed his "desires" and nothing about him, I normally don't respond, but after reading threads here, about men being at a bit of a loss to explain the rejections, I chose to write back.

I usually say something like "thanks for your interest, but....." At this time, I also included that "men in panties" was not an interest of mine, that it was in fact a "hard limit," for me.

I did receive a nice return e-mail that included more personal information to tell me about the man. His response came back to me under a completely different account, with his explanation of changing his name for "me." (Changing his name "for me," only after "first" contact...not a good thing, as I see it. Where are those flags? )

Anyway, in his second e-mail, he talked again about MY wet panties, and what he would do with them. Since I had already explained that this was a "hard limit" for me, I was a bit surprised to see this come up again.

I had explained the "hard limit," but did not detail "why" it was a hard limit originally. I felt his manner of communication was polite enough (if self centered), and I then explained my distaste for the male wearing lady's panty fetish, as I enjoy a manly-man, and that doesn't include having him in lady's panties/clothes. (No CD's is listed in all of my profiles. <please, I don't want to argue my preference...thanks>) Also, having my panties stolen as a teenage, makes it a horrendous thought, and I would never partake of it as someone's fetish interest. It was a perverted violation against me...let alone against a minor, that prompted my "hard limit" notion. It will NEVER be negotiable with me.

His response was to reply, "well we could get along well, as long as you let me wear them once in a while then...and then punish me when you catch me in them." I let him know that he did not want to know my reaction of him violating my space..and my panties, let alone the fact that I had already told him that it was a hard limit.

Why I responded, yet again...I don't know, but I told him since he didn't respect my "hard limit" or understand what I had just told him, that no, we would indeed NOT get along. His response thereafter was also polite. His profiles are both deleted now.

So, now for my actual question, which was prompted by this incident....Is "stolen panties," worn by your man a hot fantasy/reality, or like me, do you see it as more of a violation.

K

PS Heck...I don't like my lady friends wearing my clothes, I'm sure not going enjoy my man wearing them too! lol
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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 1:22:19 PM   
slimsub


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Status: offline 		FT, there should of been hundreds of flags waving. This is just some married guy getting his cookies off by having contact with an actual Domme. Probably afraid to ask his wife so he got a reaction from a stranger which was just what he was looking for. This was one of those cases when you shouldn't of replied especially since you don't have cross dressing as an interest. I am curious as to whether other Dommes got the same "introductory email" or was he local to your geographical area. I am a masculine sub but love to wear women's panties because of their silkness and sensual feeling but I will buy my own thank you Being gagged with a Mistress's wet panties, that is another story.

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 2:04:37 PM   
nella


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Status: offline 		Some men like to wear a woman`s panties, i like wearing jewlery under sex, all fine.

Some men think woman to be sex objects and will say, do or try to charm all they can to get their fantasis met, that makes then male basterds.

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 3:37:24 PM   
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quote:


Anyway, in his second e-mail, he talked again about MY wet panties, and what he would do with them. Since I had already explained that this was a "hard limit" for me, I was a bit surprised to see this come up again.



After reading both your posts and profile, I'm surprised you didn't reach through the screen and hit this guy in the head ;}


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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 4:19:06 PM   
PetTeacher


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Status: offline 		Wow, I'm suprised you even open the second e-mail he sent you. I would have replied nicely to the first e-mail. I would have not responded to the second e-mail. If he had sent me a third one, I would not open it.

I get very hot under the collar when someone chats with me under different ID's without reporting they have already talked with me under "X" profile. I look at it as if someone has stolen from me. They have stolen my time & energy.

To answer your question, I don't like men in short briefs because they look too much like panties. I perfer men in long boxer briefs or boxers. Now only as a joke or to have fun would I want to see a male in panties and that is once in a blue moon that falls on the second Sat. of Aug when the tied comes high and I am having a good hair day.

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 6:14:23 PM   
Misstoyou


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FTopinMichigan
Is "stolen panties," worn by your man a hot fantasy/reality, or like me, do you see it as more of a violation.



While I can't control what a sub fantasizes about (oh sure, I could try, lol), I don't see "stealing" as submissive behavior, and it wouldn't be a selling point with me.

And K, I've also had the odd "awful fascination" with what some guy was telling me that I wouldn't be interested in for the world. It must have been a full moon.

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 8:08:50 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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Status: offline 		Dang! Is it a full moon? K actually talking to a panty boy....... <G>

Seriously, I totally understand the urge to talk to these guys sometimes. I am madly curious about what makes them tick! Especially when it's something so innocuous as panty wearing.

:)F

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 9:48:52 PM   
lonewolf05


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Status: offline 		ah well hell.

stolen? no. i buy my own thank you.

wet? certainly not. i like mine clean thank you.

yes. i DO wear ladies panties. i have done so, for many years. especially since i WAS at one time trying to change gender and never had ANY inkling of changing back to men's underwear.
i am STILL alpha male anyway. clothes do NOT make the man anymore than makeup creates the woman.

but anywhoway...........

thats MY take on it. as to someone talking about male bastards? hmm? bastard? last "I" heard it indicates your parents were not married at your birth....is there another kind?

wolf


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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 9:50:27 PM   
theRose4U


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quote:

His response was to reply, "well we could get along well, as long as you let me wear them once in a while then...and then punish me when you catch me in them." I let him know that he did not want to know my reaction of him violating my space..and my panties, let alone the fact that I had already told him that it was a hard limit.

Why I responded, yet again...I don't know, but I told him since he didn't respect my "hard limit" or understand what I had just told him, that no, we would indeed NOT get along. His response thereafter was also polite. His profiles are both deleted now
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You my dear have been trolled like way too many of us. It is likely that he is now lurking under YET ANOTHER name dishing the same hogwash to anyone that will listen. Sometimes all we get are lil boys looking for wank fodder. We can only hope that his wife (assumed) will discover his behavior and have a Domme moment firmly whacking him upside the head...(we can only hope)

quote:

So, now for my actual question, which was prompted by this incident....Is "stolen panties," worn by your man a hot fantasy/reality, or like me, do you see it as more of a violation.


Man in panties mine or not to me isn't sexy. The violation part I think is in the "theft" rather than the desire to seek out girls underwear. Think there's a thread on here somewhere about this being rather common though very illegal due to biohazard...

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 10:05:22 PM   
onceburned


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Status: offline 		Consider that guys may be stealing panties, not to wear, but for other reasons:

quote:

A 57-year-old Wausau man may be charged with disorderly conduct after he was caught on tape hanging underwear from the mirrors of vehicles at the Wausau and Marathon County Parks, Recreation and Forestry Department.

Police received a complaint last month from Parks Director Bill Duncanson, who said bras and panties of all different sizes have been hung on the department's vehicles 30 to 50 times during nights while they were parked on River Drive. Some of the underwear is new, and some seemed to be worn, according to the police report.

Duncanson told a police officer he was concerned because it looked unprofessional if people saw the items hanging from the vehicles before they were removed.
He also wondered where the man was getting the underwear.

http://www.wisinfo.com/dailytribune/wrdtlocal/320609993545061.shtml

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/21/2005 10:15:02 PM   
theRose4U


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quote:

Consider that guys may be stealing panties, not to wear, but for other reasons:


I am actually shocked beyond words....

what would he..
why.. ah hell nevermind...some people's kids

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/24/2005 3:15:36 AM   
iwearpanties


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Status: offline 		i m a sub male here and ive worn panties as both for pleasure and as made too by a Mistress..id never steal them nor wear wet ones for that matter .. this type of person / sub make the subs like my self and others like me look like an ass holes but most sub male panty wearers arent like this person whos imed you

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iwearpanties

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/24/2005 4:52:20 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		How much are wet female panties bringing on eBay now? I haven't checked for some time.............

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/24/2005 5:57:54 AM   
sarbonn


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Status: offline 		While a woman's panties do zip for me, I used to have a roomate back in my military days that used to steal panties from every woman that he slept with. He slept with a million women, and he would hang their panties in his closet. I never understood it. It was just his "thing". He knew I liked dominant women and knew it was my "thing" so we never really had a falling out over the two different desires.

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/24/2005 10:59:44 AM   
RainGod


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quote:

Some of the underwear is new, and some seemed to be worn, according to the police report.


Okay, I just have to comment on that. Who was the kinky devil who was doing the sniff test to determain which were new and which were used? lmao. I bet the whole Police Department was out there fighting over whose job it was. Thanks. I got a kick out of that!

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/24/2005 11:08:12 AM   
FTopinMichigan


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RainGod

Okay, I just have to comment on that. Who was the kinky devil who was doing the sniff test to determain which were new and which were used? lmao. I bet the whole Police Department was out there fighting over whose job it was. Thanks. I got a kick out of that!


I got more of a kick/laugh, outta your post, RainGod! Priceless image!

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/24/2005 2:38:54 PM   
AAkasha


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Regardless of whether or not a woman is ok with a man wearing her panties or not -- or any kind of panty play -- the fact that some subs steal panties to get off is sad. They talk about it as if they are proud -- stealing them from roommates, from the laundry basket in a public place, from girlfriends they know they won't see again. What does it say about a guy that he will steal to get his rocks off?

When you address this with a guy, the most he can muster with his conscience is that maybe he should have been caught and "punished" -- oh sure, we know what that means in HIS mind.

What these guys fail to realize is that in many cases panties are *expensive* and women don't necessarily keep an unlimited stash of them. Especially college women. While some women may keep so many pairs that they wouldn't even miss it, some of them would be seriously annoyed (and disgusted) to find their panties missing.

For "punishment" when guys have admitted to me they've stolen panties in the past, I make them send a $30 gift card from Victoria's Secret anonymously to the person he stole from. At least she can replace them and add a few more.

Akasha

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/27/2005 9:20:21 AM   
MaitresseEden


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Status: offline 		While I agree that "stealing" anything that is not yours is wrong, I would like to weigh in on the discussion of panties and men and the myriad of circumstances that fall under that umbrella.

Many men seem to have a panty fetish, from smelling them, to wearing them. I see nothing wrong with this. Often time it is a repressed desire for feminization, and it some cases it is the humiliation aspect of being in them. Some times it is a simply way of remaining close to thier mistress, or a subtle reminder to them of thier submissive place. the act of interacting with panties should not be veiwed as a bad thing.

I am the first person to say I like my men to be masculine but I don't view the wearing of panties as emasculating. What makes a man desireable to me is his ability to obey and please me. Every person has thier own button, some it is in lingerie, others it is in leather, and even others it is with rope. What I feed off of is the submissive energy. Regardless of its source. I have learned along time ago to never say never because invaritably you will meet someone withwhom a hard limit is challenged. I believe we should openly embrace things as they present themselves before choosing to reject them.

You would be amazed how the simple act of wearing womens undergarmets can enhance a man's submissive nature. Which then in turn pleases me. I may or may not get off to the "panties" themselves, but I get off to submissive men, and anything that enhances a persons submissive nature is a good thing. Not to mention it is fun! and I firmly believe that if it isn't fun we shouldn't be doing it.

Ms. Eden

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RE: Men and Stolen Panties - 9/27/2005 9:50:13 AM   
thetammyjo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: FTopinMichigan

So, now for my actual question, which was prompted by this incident....Is "stolen panties," worn by your man a hot fantasy/reality, or like me, do you see it as more of a violation.

K

PS Heck...I don't like my lady friends wearing my clothes, I'm sure not going enjoy my man wearing them too! lol


Short answer, no.
I don't like 'stealing'.

However, I have a lot of very androgynous clothes (like big shirts) that my spouse and my slave can wear and I can wear theirs. We tend to ask first though before we borrow anyone's clothes and in general we just go out and buy something similar if we really like it.

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