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RealityLicks -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 4:59:57 PM)
So yeah, although there are reports of more Venezuelan troops heading towards the border, it does seem that the will not to fight and the costs each player would have to bear if they did fight will prevent this being more than a sabre-rattling exercise.

xBullx -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 5:05:11 PM)
Howdy Meatcleaver, Yeah, I was aware of that fact and a few others, I also lost confidence in "Lil" Bush ( I think that show is funny as hell) about the same time my candidate did. (Write in Powell; maybe we could get him to start the American Party) I heard alot of things prior to the invasion and maybe some that perhaps no one else did; it is sad (among other less flattering comments) that mistakes were made by Bush and his not very well fitted and in some cases less than competent staff. My biggest vice anymore is the endless political rhetoric by those that have more than obvious partisan agendas. We'll never mend this country or any damn fences without real leaders. My fear is that we'll never find this leader and if we do the contempt from either side of this two party system will never allow the other a chance to get it right. I have literally given up hope that the answer lies with either party at this point. It's all talk, the same shit on a different day. Hell take the example of Sinergy, he is so busy pushing his own agenda on of all places an off topic message board that he is no longer listening to anyone else; he sorts through the words of another only enough to find comments or segments of comments that he can caste his spin on. It more than appears that if you make a comment that doesn't suit his political motives he looks right past it no matter its validity. The worst part is he learned it from those you see on TV and hear on the radio. The media is all about opinions nowadays and the facts are almost always spun in someone's own particular brand of the truth. Without trust in our media we as a country are doomed. I can deal with sorting through the rhetoric of an individual. But where do we get the truth from? There's no longer seems to be affection for truth, honor, nobility or anything that a man could proudly hang his hat on. It's all one blow up, reality TV, dramatic bowl of hate mongering puss. Anyway, I do see your point and thanks. Live well, Bull quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver General Schwartzkopf said the US army in Iraq would be like a mamoth in a tar pit. He said that well before the invasion but Bush and his acid head Strausian disciples Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Perle, just didn't want to listen.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 5:57:13 PM)
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thompsonx -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 7:18:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: airborne92 As for it taking so long, go back to the founding of this country. We declared independence in 1776, we didn't have a Constitution that was ratified by all 13 states or colonies, depending on how you want to look at it, until 1789. That took 13 years with some of the brightest minds in the world at the time working on a government system that everyone would be happy with. Now you want it to happen overnight? airborne: Please correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it about six years from the time of the declaration of independence to the end of the war? Wasn't the constitution written in 1787? Wasn't the constitution ratified in 1789? Wouldn't that be two years and not 13? Didn't some of the states refuse to sign? thompson

thompsonx -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 7:36:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DupedDom I wonder if folks who call the president, dipshit, stupid or otherwise insult him with derogatory names think of themselves smarter than the president? I have rocks in my back yard that are smarter than he is. To me this means that people are saying that they know more or are more intelligent than the president. Yup. While I respect all of the diversified folks on collarme, who here thinks that they are smarter than, or know more than the president of the United States??? I do. Chavez is a dictator that cares nothing for the people of his country, I was under the impression that he was not only elected but also reelected. The poor people in his country seem to think he is a pretty nice guy. if he does not respect the borders of his neioghbors, Had you taken the time to read the cite of the OP you would have noticed that it was Columbia who violated the sovereignty of Ecuador. It was Venezuela who sent troops to its own border to prevent a similar incursion by Columbia into Venezuela. he will share the fate of Sadaam Hussein. You mean that we will go there and fuck his women and steal his dope like we are in Iraq?

thompsonx -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 7:44:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aubre I think Chavez is just trying to be provocative. His country has too much coastline and is too dependent on sea trade to want to do battle with the United States, for while we have a lot of resources dedicated to Iraq/Afghanistan, our navy could still them from doing any maritime trade. Are you suggesting that the U.S. might abrogate international treaties that we have signed saying we would not do that? Oh my. And what would he expect to happen to Citgo should he be so stupid? So stupid as to do what? To defend his borders from his neighbor Columbia?

kittinSol -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 8:02:08 PM)
Ah man... I always found brainiacs sexy.

youngsubgeoff -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 8:03:38 PM)
It is time for someone to tell the president "ENOUGH! We need to fix our own shit before worrying about someone else"

Hippiekinkster -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 8:21:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Ah man... I always found brainiacs sexy. And you already know what I think of your golden tresses, Liebling.[sm=kiss.gif]

thompsonx -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 8:38:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xBullx Prepare to drool. My diesel engine is rated at 625 horsepower, I have 2050 foot pounds of torque and my ideal operating speed is 75 mph or for you around 125 kph at 1500 rpm's. I also get 5.5 mpg weighing in at 86,000 lbs.[;)] Sounds like someone has a little kitty[;)]

Real0ne -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/4/2008 9:49:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Archer At one time they got popular when diesel prices were less than gasoline but now with the price for them usually being diesel just a little higher than gasoline, diesel vehicals for general public are not all that popular. thats because clinton run th ebtu tax thru

DupedDom -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/5/2008 10:28:44 AM)
And so he is the preisdent of the greatest nation on earth and you are????? I don't think he is a genius, hell, he has done some downright stupid stuff, appointed some inept people and I do not think he has a great exit stategy for Iraq. But, I assure you my freind, you do not know more about what it takes to run this country that our president, regardless of who is in office.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/5/2008 11:25:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DupedDom And so he is the preisdent of the greatest nation on earth and you are????? I don't think he is a genius, hell, he has done some downright stupid stuff, appointed some inept people and I do not think he has a great exit stategy for Iraq. But, I assure you my freind, you do not know more about what it takes to run this country that our president, regardless of who is in office. Well, I came from a family where I got stuff that had been handed down 3 times already. I have a BS and I retired at 40. I'm 54 now. Think the fuckwad in chief could have gotten to where he is starting from where I did? I fucking doubt it. Silver Spoon boy has had his whole life bought and paid for. Fuck-a-doodle-do.

Aubre -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/5/2008 12:17:03 PM)
Unfortunately for Chavez, the US Navy submarine force is not very involved in what's going on in Iraq/Afghanistan. If they attack Columbia they will have to keep all their ships in port for the duration. Chavez knows this.

meatcleaver -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/5/2008 12:43:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aubre Unfortunately for Chavez, the US Navy submarine force is not very involved in what's going on in Iraq/Afghanistan. If they attack Columbia they will have to keep all their ships in port for the duration. Chavez knows this. Er...Columbia and Venezuela have a land border or they did have the last time I looked.

thompsonx -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/5/2008 1:23:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aubre Unfortunately for Chavez, the US Navy submarine force is not very involved in what's going on in Iraq/Afghanistan. If they attack Columbia they will have to keep all their ships in port for the duration. Chavez knows this. Aubre: Aside from fucking their women and taking their dope what excuse would the U.S. have for declaring war on Venezuela? You mentioned we have a treaty with Columbia....what treaty is that? Do you really believe that the U.S. should be taking what ever it wants from whom ever it wants like some school yard bully? If you believe that then why do we have laws against stealing. Just saying that the U.S. must have oil does not justify stealing it. thompson

Aubre -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/5/2008 1:38:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver quote: ORIGINAL: Aubre Unfortunately for Chavez, the US Navy submarine force is not very involved in what's going on in Iraq/Afghanistan. If they attack Columbia they will have to keep all their ships in port for the duration. Chavez knows this. Er...Columbia and Venezuela have a land border or they did have the last time I looked. Well that would make it hard for them to ship things to each other. I meant their coastal area. If they were to take actions (like invade Columbia) that would cause us to help Columbia, then I assume the first thing that would happen is to stop Venezuela's ability to use the sea to either ship goods to anyone or receive goods from anyone. How do you suppose they get their oil exports to the US and other countries? I don't think there is a pipeline, and if there was it would have to go through Columbia anyway, and that would be shut off I would suppose. Now I'm not saying that we would enter on the side of Columbia or even do anything should Columbia get invaded. I'm just saying that Chavez knows he doesn't want us picking off his country's shipping, and he will endeavor to avoid that scenario.

meatcleaver -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/5/2008 2:04:16 PM)
Hmm My guess this is a fight the US doesn't want to get into, not because it couldn't prevail, we all know it would but because of the diplomatic consequences. Hell, China and Russia would love to see the US in another military entanglement.

RealityLicks -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/5/2008 2:35:27 PM)
General point - It's Colombia not "Columbia". I'm not normally all that bothered about typos; I make quite few myself, but seeing a country's name consistently mis-spelt to resemble a part of the US is... odd.

Politesub53 -> RE: US may be drawn into South American war (3/5/2008 4:42:11 PM)
Reality i think you have misspelt mis-spelt [;)]

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