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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/6/2008 8:08:44 PM   
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if the B.C. is an issue, there is such thing as a NON hormonal IUD
look into it, its fantabulous.
*poof* no more moontime excuses

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/6/2008 8:18:45 PM   
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You already got a bunch of great advice...so i will say something serious and then something selfish, lol.

Serious - chemical/hormonal birth control of any kind is poison. The kind you are on, birth control that upsets your bodies natural process, is dangerous. It is NOT normal. What the doctor meant was that it is a COMMON side affect, but that does not make it normal. Normal would be to bleed 2-7 days every 21-28 or so days. That is what a healthy body would do if it were NOT on hormones. I can give you all kinds of links that will scare the crap right out of you, but really, your common sense should apply. It is changing your natural cycle. THAT IS A BAD SIGN. It is known to do this, and if you stop taking it your problems will probably get worse for quite a while...possibly as long as you have been taking it. You might bleed non-stop...just all the time for months. You are not actually bleeding any more blood than you would in a week, but instead of building up and then flushing once a month, it just is coming out constantly...this is do to an imbalance between progesterone and estrogen. There are all sorts of natural ways to restore your balance...if you are interested let me know.

My advice to ALL women it to not take chemical/hormonal birth controls. There are many many other forms or birth control.

Now, for the selfish and teasing part...OH MY GOD are you HOT! Does your Master share??? Master Dan never stops fucking me when i am bleeding...come on over! LOL

But the down side is, you will have to clean up your mess, orally, no matter how messy it is. It might get smeared on your face or body too. But, hey, you will get fucked silly while you are your most sensitive and your most aroused. The only other time a woman's body is as ready for sex as when it is bleeding are the one or two days that it is ovulating.



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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/6/2008 8:24:34 PM   
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Well, as a submale i doubt my opinions are any use, and i've got a few other doubts as well, but what the hell...

1. If you need to defend yourself, i recommend a .357 Magnum revolver, as it's easy to learn, requires little maintenance, and hits hard.
2. If your birth control is fucking up your body, you shouldn't use it. There are options out the ying-yang and back up the wazoo.
3. Is he waking you up, or are you staying up all night to watch? If he's only doing it for 15 seconds a night but doing it hard enough to wake you up, go back to sleep, and be glad he isn't snoring.
4. The human body is weird. Women's bodies are weird because of the whole walking-incubator thing, men's bodies are weird because of the whole penis thing. You can't ever expect them to do what you want them to. It sucks, but if you live long enough they won't do much of anything, so enjoy it while it lasts.
5. If he doesn't even want you to suck him off when you're on the rag, he's got issues. Send him to therapy. Unless you're bleeding from the mouth as well, in which case, take yourself to a doctor.
6. i know this comes off as massive-jerkwad, but it's mastUrbate. Sorry. And we don't believe that you find it sexy.

Cheers,

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/6/2008 8:27:33 PM   
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Well, as a submale i doubt my opinions are any use, and i've got a few other doubts as well, but what the hell...

1. If you need to defend yourself, i recommend a .357 Magnum revolver, as it's easy to learn, requires little maintenance, and hits hard.
2. If your birth control is fucking up your body, you shouldn't use it. There are options out the ying-yang and back up the wazoo.
3. Is he waking you up, or are you staying up all night to watch? If he's only doing it for 15 seconds a night but doing it hard enough to wake you up, go back to sleep, and be glad he isn't snoring.
4. The human body is weird. Women's bodies are weird because of the whole walking-incubator thing, men's bodies are weird because of the whole penis thing. You can't ever expect them to do what you want them to. It sucks, but if you live long enough they won't do much of anything, so enjoy it while it lasts.
5. If he doesn't even want you to suck him off when you're on the rag, he's got issues. Send him to therapy. Unless you're bleeding from the mouth as well, in which case, take yourself to a doctor.
6. i know this comes off as massive-jerkwad, but it's mastUrbate. Sorry. And we don't believe that you find it sexy.

Cheers,

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/6/2008 9:30:14 PM   
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He does it because he does.  Does it give you pleasure to make him feel guilty about being who he is?  It feels good, it is relaxing, it is pleasurable, how can he be blamed for what he does in his sleep?  It isn't as if he is trying to bash your brains in, he is wacking off.  Seems to me that letting him have his pleasure without making him feel like shit for making YOU feel bad, is the quickest way for him to lay in another bed.
Do yourself a favor, learn how good it feels to give yourself pleasure without guilt.
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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/6/2008 9:57:20 PM   
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Get on Erin...it's a pill. You'll have a period for about a month to start, but after that...nothing...it's pretty cool!


I had a depo shot that lasted three months. It was three months of complete and utter hell that made PMS look like a paper cut. Seriously, the depo shot maybe what is making her insecure and over reacting to things such as masturbation. That shot made me a loon when I was in my 20s. I have never known a woman who had a good experience with it.

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/6/2008 10:23:55 PM   
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Wow I actually thought Red had a fabulous and very insightful practical response to actually help deal with the issue AND bring you guys closer together.  You guys are creating this problem for yourselves.  You can either recognize it, laugh at your irrationality and be blessed with what there is to enjoy and break out of your fairly repressed ideals of sexual pleasure, or you can stay stuck where you are.

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 3:20:33 AM   
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What I dont get is the total disjointed ideas from the two posts, he seems to think that YOU have a problem with him masterbating which you claim is just HIS feeling bad. I SERIOUSLY recomend actually talking to each other, i get the feeling you are both blowing both these issues way out of proportion.

I dunno if you have family planning clinics over there but i expect you have the equivilant, there are many types of birth control methods that may help and obviously finding out the actual reason. We have something here called a moon cup which is like a tiny little cup that collects the blood and still allows for penetration. But you really shouldnt be bleeding that eratically it could be a serious issue i would go see someone.

I agree with Red on this one, thats actually a really good idea. Of course, if you are asleep/cant be arsed etc just ignore it i mean it really doesnt matter in the grand sceme of things. If it wakes you up then I dunno if you can use the same methods to stop snoring, lightly pushing his sholder might work. Or try getting him off before he goes to bed maybe? maybe its to do with some sexual frustration.

His post seemed to imply your issue extended to masterbation in general, in that case i would say get over it. I know that sounds harsh but seriously it really doesnt matter. Why not take it up yourself, its fun and then you will see its NO replacement for human contact

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 4:03:58 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: Belladonna30
Any ideas of what W/we can do?

As a matter of fact, yes.

The two of you can stop spending all your energy defending yourselves and feeling disgusted and insecure about unavoidable facts about the human body.  Instead of getting so worked up about everything except how to care about each other, focus your efforts on how to make each other happier.

For example: he's asleep and stroking himself.  Gently remove his hand and YOU give him a handjob until he either relaxes or comes.  Then you're the one giving him satisfaction.  YAYYY.

For example: you're menstruating and he doesn't want to go down on you or enter you.  Fine.  He buys you a silicon dildo, and gets you all hot and bothered while you're still wearing some sexy clothes.  Then use the toy to come.  He can be in the other room for that, whatever.  He's the one getting you to the brink of satisfaction. YAYYYYY!

I hope this is the end of the motherfucking soap opera.


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Addendum:  What is the big deal?  All men masturbate.  All women menstruate.  You guys need to get over yourselves and have reasonable expectations of your bodies, and learn to love them as they are.  So as well as agreeing with RedMagic1's practical advice, I suggest that you look into the underlying issue of self-doubt and loathing that is making you hate when he masturbates and him not wanting to sex you when you are having your period.


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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 4:48:32 AM   
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   I'm going to post the same general idea over here, as there. Why are you upset? It sounds like his nocturnal behavior is completely outside his control. Every man gets aroused while sleeping several times a night...just because your guy goes furthur, it's still nothing he's doing purposefully. I don't know why he'd be ashamed and you'd be upset by this.
    It seems like the real problem might be that he thinks you come down with werewolfism when you have your period (a common misconception). He's sleep-wanking because he's getting less sex than he's used to beacuse HE cannot deal with a woman's natural cycles. You appear to be open to the idea of pleasing him despite all this, if he is too afraid to take advantage, it's really his problem. From this end of the story, it appears that you are attempting to do just what a good submissive ought to do- make yourself available to your dom's pleasures. Now try the other part, stop whining about it if he refuses to partake in them.
    Or, given the lengthiness of your periods, find someone who isn't afraid to get a little...wet.

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 5:06:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

quote:

ORIGINAL: Belladonna30
Any ideas of what W/we can do?

As a matter of fact, yes.

The two of you can stop spending all your energy defending yourselves and feeling disgusted and insecure about unavoidable facts about the human body.  Instead of getting so worked up about everything except how to care about each other, focus your efforts on how to make each other happier.

For example: he's asleep and stroking himself.  Gently remove his hand and YOU give him a handjob until he either relaxes or comes.  Then you're the one giving him satisfaction.  YAYYY.

For example: you're menstruating and he doesn't want to go down on you or enter you.  Fine.  He buys you a silicon dildo, and gets you all hot and bothered while you're still wearing some sexy clothes.  Then use the toy to come.  He can be in the other room for that, whatever.  He's the one getting you to the brink of satisfaction. YAYYYYY!

I hope this is the end of the motherfucking soap opera.



Simple, yet brilliant. 

OP, take the advice. 


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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 6:01:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Get on Erin...it's a pill. You'll have a period for about a month to start, but after that...nothing...it's pretty cool!


I had a depo shot that lasted three months. It was three months of complete and utter hell that made PMS look like a paper cut. Seriously, the depo shot maybe what is making her insecure and over reacting to things such as masturbation. That shot made me a loon when I was in my 20s. I have never known a woman who had a good experience with it.

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Well let me introduce myself.  I was on Depo for 2 years (which is all they will allow as prolonged use may cause osteoperosis) and had no issues, had no period, gained no weight and no side effects.

There is a birthcontrol that is right for each person individually, the trick is finding it.

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 7:07:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: petdave

Well, as a submale i doubt my opinions are any use, and i've got a few other doubts as well, but what the hell...

1. If you need to defend yourself, i recommend a .357 Magnum revolver, as it's easy to learn, requires little maintenance, and hits hard.


My opinion is a shotgun.... point in the general direction of the target and can usally hit something to give one pause.  Too easy to miss with a handgun and depending upon the shooter, a heavier gun is harder to maintain a good aim.  A shotgun, however, does not require an accurate aim to be a good defense.  A nice over-under 20-gauge should be enough for even a petite lady to handle easily.

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 7:20:17 AM   
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Both of you need to stop being on opposite sides of a problem and stop working against each other.  If you were not doing this you would feel no need to "defend yourself". 

Get on the same side of the problem and figure out the best solution for your relationship.  Stop looking at it from the perspective of how this is effecting me... how can I get what I want... what can I get out of this...  Look at it from the perspective of how is this effecting our relationship... how can we give our relationship what it needs and wants to survive and be healthy...  Work together rather than against each other.

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 7:32:15 AM   
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quote:

Well let me introduce myself. I was on Depo for 2 years (which is all they will allow as prolonged use may cause osteoperosis) and had no issues, had no period, gained no weight and no side effects.

There is a birthcontrol that is right for each person individually, the trick is finding it.


Seriously, every female that I have spoken with did not have a good experience. I was beginning to wonder if there were any that did. I am glad it worked for you, but from the possible side effects of that crap, if I had a daughter I would seriously suggest that she seek other options. I have a mirena IUD that I absolutely love.

The OP is bleeding all the time, I bled for 3 months. My opinion, if your hormones are screwed up enough to cause you to bleed for 3 months, the emotional component of that could cause a person to be highly over emotional and hypersensitive. I have a sister that took hormones to get pregnant.... she was a mess from it. I could be wrong, but if I were the OP I would seek medical attention for a bad reaction to her shot, and not get another one.

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 7:34:37 AM   
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A couple of thoughts.  I have sleeping problems to the point i have actually had sex in my sleep as my girl has said the snoring was a bit odd but i was going to town and it felt good for her.  I have a couple of sleeping quirks like that from going to the bath room while asleep to eating late at night while a sleep so a few quick tugs is nothing in my opinion.  I his sleeping habits change to more than a couple of tugs a night then there are meds that the doctor can give him that will help him sleep like a baby and stay asleep.  As far as playing with himself it is natural hell even babies do it.  As far as the red river if he has ever popped a cherry there is blood .  Last thing  i agree with the shot gun to defend ones self in the home  out on the town a 45 works very well as well

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 7:45:43 AM   
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I just gotta ask. Are both of you turned on by humiliation? Because at some point in the anals of Collarme history this shit is still gonna be out here for people to read and, it's gonna be embarassing. I cannot imagine bringing my personal relationship stuff out here for the general masses to read and laugh at. Especially this kinda stuff. But hey, that's just me.

Seriously, the two of you need some intense relationship therapy. If you cannot sit down, have a glass of vino and talk this kinda stuff out betwixt the two of you........there's much bigger issues at play.


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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 7:57:53 AM   
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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 8:02:02 AM   
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Thread like this make me wonder how some people are able to function at all in the real world.  If simple relationship bumps cause this much drama, what do they do if something really serious happens?  The internet is our downfall.  Instead of dealing with a problem, we run to our computer and post it for the world to see.

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RE: So i must now defend myself... - 3/7/2008 8:05:25 AM   
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Bella, I understand how you felt and why you defended yourself.
Someone said a buncha crap about me the other day without pointing out it was me, and even though I shoulda kept my mouth shut, I was so mad about the lies and the
f 'd up way she presented that evening, that I just HAD to say something.
Shouldn't have.
Would've advised against it.
Did it anyway, 'cause...well...I felt attacked and misunderstood, and dang it...I just had to...
((((hugs))))

oh, and the advice everyone is giving you about not taking the 'touching himself' personally? Spot on.

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