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RE: checklist for subs - 3/9/2008 12:34:57 AM   
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Come on folks this is a very serious topic.  Obvioulsy the OP is looking for some good advice instead of all the smart ass remarks.  My mom gave me some great advice when I started on my journey of life.  I'd like to pass it along to you.
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RE: checklist for subs - 3/9/2008 1:26:43 AM   
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First off al I never heard of those lists since recently...my sub showed me one. I find them rediculous...but ok. To each his own.
IF you want a list....make yourself one...because that way it full fills your wishes..and not the wishes from the whole world.

http://www.google.com/search?q=bdsm+sub+checklist&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

this link will give you some lists, or directly search in google with ; bdsm sub checklist


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RE: checklist for subs - 3/9/2008 7:03:06 AM   
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http://www.thebrc.net/check_list/default.htm is pretty good. We find checklists are really good for starting the negotiation process as it really just has lots of ideas that you may or may not think about. We've never considered just sending and receiving a checklist in and of itself as sufficient. When used as a tool to assist they can be very helpful.

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RE: checklist for subs - 3/9/2008 7:06:13 AM   
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Dear slavegirlwanted9, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I would hope, that you have some experiences in D/s and BDSM before trying to entice anybody who is submissive and or slave into a relationship.  I am of the hope that you may look on a check list as a 'to do and or to learn how to do' first, so that you can qualify your title and role as a Master before taking on a human being and all the responsibilities, duties and good intentions that should/would go with it.
 
Here is a few excerpts from "The Manual - How you give service." [Copyrighted work]
 
Responsibilities
of the
Master, Mistress and Slaves
Masters and Mistresses

For maintaining and protecting the trust that you have bestowed upon me with your submission and holding that trust as the sacred foundation of our relationship

For your protection of the physical and emotional safety. Be assured that I will not deliberately cause you permanent and/or irreversible damage.

For your guidance and direction.

For establishing and maintaining the lines of communication necessary to insure your growth and the growth of this relationship.

For providing for your needs and caring for you within the context of our Master- slave and/or Mistress-slave relationship.

For training you as my property, so that you might achieve your true potential as my slave.

For demonstrating as much creativity in approaching the task of meeting your ever changing needs as I shall require that you demonstrate in meeting mine.

For insuring that you are always treated in a manner that is consistent with your role as my valued property and valued human.

To hold slave harmless of criminal/civil allegations/charges/investigations as long as it is within the limits and actions of the relationship. However, if the acts go beyond the consented contract the slave understands the Master's/Mistress's rights to pursue judicial relief.

Slave's Responsibilities

You must understand clearly the terms and conditions of your submission.

You must be certain of what is expected of you and what limitations are placed upon you. It is impossible for you to submit successfully, if you fail to understand the terms and conditions of submission.
Armed with free choice, you surrender your freedom willingly to me your Master and/or Mistress.

You have willingly agreed to my control and domination. As long as you have to remain in this relationship, you are expected to honor and obey me.

As slave you are obligated to and responsible for insuring that you do nothing to endanger and/or threaten your health and well being, and/or that of your Master/Mistress and/or the Master's/Mistress's household.

You are obligated to protecting and preserving my property and yourself from risk of harm to include from me, should I be behaving in a manner you believe is unsafe.

For communicating your needs to me clearly and unequivocally.

Notifying me of any changes in your physical/emotional/mental well being.

Maintaining your weight and physical fitness in accordance with good health and my wishes.

Knowing that you may talk with me about anything at any time. But in this, you are expected to exercise good judgment and self control by planning to bring new issues forward at times that are considerate of the Master's/Mistress's needs.

Exercising care and sound judgment in all things, remembering that in all things your conduct reflects upon me.

A slave's primary function is to serve and please the Master/Mistress with the following of the secondary function of being desirable and pleasing as you serve your Master and/or Mistress.

Slave has sworn to fulfill my desires. Being a generous Master/Mistress, to be such to his/her slave, the Master/Mistress requires that his/her slave give their all, without expecting anything beyond the pleasures of serving him/her in return.

To hold a Master/Mistress harmless of any criminal/civil allegations/ investigations and charges, as long as it is within the limits and actions of the relationship. However, if such acts go beyond the consented contract, Master/Mistress understands the slave's right to pursue judicial relief.
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NEGOTIATIONS
FOR
SLAVE, SUBMISSIVE AND SCENES
Part One: General Information

1. SM Experience: a) Novice ____ b) Experienced ______
2. Sexual Orientation:
a) Heterosexual ____ b) Bi Sexual ____ c) Bi Curious ____ d) Gay ____
3. Gender Orientation:
a) Male ____ b) Female ____ c) Cross Dresser _____ d) Transsexual ____
4. Dominant:
a) Always ____ b) Often ____ c) Rarely ____ d) Never ____
5. Submissive:
a) Always ____ b) Often ____ c) Rarely ____ d) Never ____
6. Masochistic:
a) Very ____ b) Somewhat ____ c) Hardly ____ d) No ____
7. Sadist:
a) Very ____ b) Somewhat ____ c) Hardly ____ d) No ____
8. Main Interests:
a) Sexual - Physical (bottom or top) ______
b) Psychosexual - Mental (D/s role-play) ______
c) Both are equally important ______
9. Will play at:
a) Anywhere ______
b) My House or Apartment ______
c) Outdoors ______
d) Parties ______
e) At SM Clubs ______
f) Public - near my home ______
g) Public - away from home ______
h) Other Places ________________________ ______
10. Who can know of your activities?
a) Nobody ______
b) Private play only partner ______
c) A few trusted friends ______
d) Other scene people can know ______
11. How do you feel about other people in your scene?
a) I only want to play with myself ______
b) Just me and my partner ______
c) Threesome ______
d) Small Groups ______
e) The more the happier I'll be ______
f) Pre-approved people only ______

12. How do you feel about service? (Cleaning, errands, etc.)
a) I live to serve ______
b) Helping my Dominant in little ways makes me feel good ______
c) It is part of the fantasy, but do not overdue it ______
d) Expletive nonsense, I will do what is fun ______
13. How do you feel about punishment?
a) It is part of the training and the right of the Dominant. ______
b) Penalties for "disobedience" enhances the fantasy ______
c) It can be OK as an excuse for having fun ______
d) Pointless, mutual pleasure needs no justification ______
14. What bruises or body marks are acceptable?
a) Leave my body as is - No marks ______
b) Temporary redness - gone in a few hours ______
c) Occasional accidental bruises are OK ______
d) Its OK to mark and carry bruises one week ______
e) Heavy bruises and welts are wanted ______
f) Permanent marks are OK ______
15. Roles of the Dominant: _____________________________________________
16. Roles of the Submissive: ____________________________________________
17. Fetishes: ________________________________________________________
18. Wants and Perceived Needs: _________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
19. Medical, Physical or Emotional concerns: _______________________________
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
20. Limits: __________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
21. Safe Words: _____________________________________________________
Additional Comments


Part Two - Preferred Activities

Check which applies and then use the lined space for additional comments.
CORPORAL
1. Spanking by hand____________________________________________
2. Leather Paddles _____________________________________________
3. Wooden Paddles ____________________________________________
4. Belts or Straps ______________________________________________
5. Switch ____________________________________________________
6. Deer Skin Floggers - cats ______________________________________
7. Leather Floggers - cats ________________________________________
8. Braided Floggers - cats ________________________________________
9. Rubber Floggers - cats ________________________________________
10. Knotted whips ______________________________________________
11. Single lash (Dressage, whips, etc) ________________________________
12. Quirts _____________________________________________________
13. Cane - Rattan _______________________________________________
14. Fiberglass or plastic rods _______________________________________
15. Riding Crops _______________________________________________
16. Taws ______________________________________________________
BONDAGE
17. Mental Bondage _____________________________________________
18. Nylon Rope ________________________________________________
19. Cotton Rope _______________________________________________
20. Chains ____________________________________________________
21. Leather Bonds ______________________________________________
22. Spandex Bonds _____________________________________________
23. Plastic Wrap _______________________________________________
24. Body Bags _________________________________________________
25. Gags ______________________________________________________
26. Leather Cuffs _______________________________________________
27. Steel Shackles - Handcuffs _____________________________________
28. Arm Sleeves ________________________________________________
29. Straight Jacket ______________________________________________
30. Breast Bondage _____________________________________________
31. Genital Bondage (CBT, etc.) ____________________________________
32. Spreader Bar _______________________________________________
33. Cages _____________________________________________________
34. Slings and swings _____________________________________________
35. Stocks or Pillory _____________________________________________
36. Crosses (St. Andrew Cross) ____________________________________
37. Suspension on the toes ________________________________________
38. Suspension _________________________________________________
39. Outdoor settings _____________________________________________
40. Indoor settings _______________________________________________
41. Public settings _______________________________________________
42. Semi Private settings __________________________________________
43. Private settings ______________________________________________
44. 1-3 Hour duration ____________________________________________
45. 4-8 Hour duration ____________________________________________
46. Over night duration ___________________________________________
47. Lifestyle - Outside of Home ____________________________________
48. Lifestyle ____________________________________________________
TORTURE AND SENSORY DEPRIVATION

49. Blindfolds __________________________________________________
50. Modified Blindfolds (goggles) ___________________________________
51. Hoods ____________________________________________________
52. Head phones or ear plugs ______________________________________
53. Tickling ____________________________________________________
54. Feathers ___________________________________________________
55. Furs ______________________________________________________
56. Sexual teasing _______________________________________________
57. Sexual denial ________________________________________________
58. Chastity Belt _________________________________________________
59. Pinching ____________________________________________________
60. Hair pulling _________________________________________________
61. Nipple clamps - Nipple clips ____________________________________
62. Clothes Pins ________________________________________________
63. Genital torture _______________________________________________
64. Weights ____________________________________________________
65. Cock rings __________________________________________________
66. Ball Stretcher ________________________________________________
67. Water Torture _______________________________________________
68. Ice ________________________________________________________
69. Oils, lotions or spices __________________________________________
70. Fire and Ice _________________________________________________
71. Hot Wax ___________________________________________________
72. Needles ____________________________________________________
73. Cuttings ____________________________________________________
74. Abrasions __________________________________________________
75. Electric torture _______________________________________________

SEXUAL


76. Digital -finger sex ____________________________________________
77. Directed Masturbation ________________________________________
78. Vaginal Sex ________________________________________________
79. Oral Sex __________________________________________________
80. Anal Sex __________________________________________________
81. Vibrator - dildo ____________________________________________
82. Strap on dildo _____________________________________________
83. Anal Plug - butt plug _________________________________________
84. Multiple Penetration _________________________________________
85. Analingus _________________________________________________
86. Vaginal fisting _____________________________________________
87. Anal fisting _______________________________________________
88. Fantasy Rape ______________________________________________
89. Directed bi-sexuality _________________________________________
90. Threesome ________________________________________________
91. Group ____________________________________________________
HUMILIATION AND EXHIBITION

92. Foot worship _______________________________________________
93. Kneeling __________________________________________________
94. Crawling __________________________________________________
95. Leading on a leash ___________________________________________
96. Dirty words ________________________________________________
97. Verbal Abuse _______________________________________________
98. Public Embarrassment ________________________________________
99. Face Slapping _______________________________________________
100. Cross Dressing ______________________________________________
101. Secret sex in public ___________________________________________
102. Public Display _______________________________________________
103. Public Sex __________________________________________________
104. Public Whipping _____________________________________________
105. Infantilism __________________________________________________
106. Golden Showers _____________________________________________
107. Enema ____________________________________________________
DRESS AND ADORNMENT

108. Innocent ___________________________________________________
109. Slutty _____________________________________________________
110. Prim and Proper _____________________________________________
111. Ultra Feminine ______________________________________________
112. Official Domina - Goddess Uniform ______________________________
113. French Maid ________________________________________________
114. Child - baby ________________________________________________
115. Slave _____________________________________________________
116. Macho ____________________________________________________
117. Biker _____________________________________________________
118. Spandex ___________________________________________________
119. Rubber - latex _______________________________________________
120. Masks or Hoods _____________________________________________
121. Costumes __________________________________________________
122. Lingerie ___________________________________________________
123. Corsets - Bustier - Cinches _____________________________________
124. Boots _____________________________________________________
125. Garter and hose - stockings _____________________________________
126. High heels __________________________________________________
127. Tattooing ___________________________________________________
128. Body Piercing ________________________________________________
129. Branding ____________________________________________________
COMMENTS AND ADDED ITEMS



Part Three -Checklists - What has been discussed


Limits and safe words
Relationships (Exclusive and depth of it)
Sex and birth control
Safer sex - Current Health


Dominant Signature _______________________________________
Submissive Signature ______________________________________
Date ___________________________________________________
Notice
This is private information that will not go into a file other then associated with the contract of the slave or submissive, it is subject to review and re-negotiations as the relationship progresses, therefore it is most important to fill this questionnaire out in an honest manner to prevent any misunderstandings or injuries.
Punishment and its severity is determined by Master/Mistress as to be harsh enough as not to be ineffective.


End of excerpts from The Manual - How you give service - Author Lady Hugs
US Library of Congress Copyright 1997 Certification & Registration number:
TXu 828-635


I will also apologize for not getting what is in the Manual in perfect alignment here--my goodness it is a mess! (I am at times computer challenged) But, the ideas on how to create check list still are valid.
 
 

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
 
Lady Hugs
Author and copyright holder to The Manual - How to give service


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RE: checklist for subs - 3/9/2008 8:36:13 AM   
Justme696


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can't those things on the list not just be asked to the sub/slave? instead of her fill in a list.
Where is the human aspect of talking and discover what you want together.

So for the Ds relation..you have to sign a contract and this list? Sometimes vanilla life is so attractive....lol


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RE: checklist for subs - 3/9/2008 8:59:49 AM   
travelgman


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If you mean an activities list. www.castlerealm.com has a  lengthy one that can be quite useful for exploring new ideas with a partner.

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RE: checklist for subs - 3/9/2008 9:10:34 AM   
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Uh, travelgman, that link hasn't been any good for a while now.  Plus, posters I respect have stated there was a lawsuit that showed that Jade probably never existed.  Overall, it's better to get information from a source that is reputable.

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