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pinkpleasures -> Jury Duty (9/24/2005 9:43:16 AM)

i was just summoned for jury duty, and will excuse myself on grounds of illness...but otherwise i'd have to go and be bumped all day for being a lawyer.

i wonder whether A/anyone has served on a jury and what it was like?

pinkpleasures



JohnWarren -> RE: Jury Duty (9/24/2005 9:49:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: pinkpleasures

i wonder whether A/anyone has served on a jury and what it was like?

pinkpleasures


Bottom line: It depends.

Mostly it's boring. The vast majority of cases are civil and not all that interesting to those not directly involved and a good judge makes sure the candidates haven't been involved in anything similar.

However, it's a duty. A necessary duty.



FangsNfeet -> RE: Jury Duty (9/24/2005 11:16:46 AM)

I remember a guy who was fileling a law suit/insurance claim for having a bad back due to work.

When I seen the guy at court he was slumped down in his chair spining left to right. His lawyer asked what I did for a living. I explained that I was a rehab tech for back surgery patients and in EMT for a level one tramu neuro unit. I then said "Would you like for me to tell the Judge what I think of your client?" I was excused.




DesertRat -> RE: Jury Duty (9/24/2005 12:17:52 PM)

I have been called several times but have always been excused for work-related reasons. Except for one time. It was an assault case, but still looked like it was going to be pretty boring. During jury selection, one of the attorneys asked if anyone believed that police officers would be inclined to lie to cover each other's asses. I unhesitatingly raised my hand and was promptly excused. Now, you would expect something like that from a former longhair, commiepinko rebel like me, right? Funny thing was, the sweet little old lady next to me raised her hand, too and was also excused.

Bob



UtopianRanger -> RE: Jury Duty (9/24/2005 12:42:13 PM)


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i wonder whether A/anyone has served on a jury and what it was like?

pinkpleasures


Sat on two juries in the last six years. Both were drunk driving cases, one an acquittal and the other a conviction.

The first time the defendant was represented by a public defender. I distinctly remember how poor and ineffectual counsel was. Not having a law degree, I still thought I could have offered better representation.

In the second case, the defendant was represented by private counsel, specializing in drunk driving cases. The case ended in an acquittal due to some inconstancies in the arresting officers testimony as it related to the field sobriety test.

Although both trials only lasted one day each, they were boring and monotonous. But as John has said ''It's a duty'' that every citizen should partake in.



- The Ranger



FLButtSlut -> RE: Jury Duty (9/24/2005 3:09:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pinkpleasures

i was just summoned for jury duty, and will excuse myself on grounds of illness...but otherwise i'd have to go and be bumped all day for being a lawyer.

i wonder whether A/anyone has served on a jury and what it was like?

pinkpleasures


I sat around the courthouse all day, hoping they would call my name. Of course, being a paralegal, I would be bumped almost instantly the same as you, but I would love to sit in on a juicy case!

Really though, pink, as a lawyer, when you are in court you are participating pretty much the whole time presenting your case, listening carefully to opposing counsel for the moment if/when he screws up. In all honesty, would YOU want to sit in a room all day and listen to two lawyers? Even on a great murder case or something, the expert testimony can sometimes be enough to put the judge and attorneys to sleep. Imagine if you are "Joe Blow" who is now getting less than $10 a DAY to sit and listen.



Lordandmaster -> RE: Jury Duty (9/24/2005 3:45:57 PM)

Heh. I was nearly called for a trial involving an automobile manufacturer that was being sued for faulty safety installations. It was expected to last six weeks. I simply could not believe they would consider me--aside from all the other reasons why I would be an extremely ill-suited juror, my mother was almost killed in an automobile accident recently. But it wasn't till the last cut that I finally got sent back to the waiting room. Then I waited there till the assistant remembered to send us all home.



pinkpleasures -> RE: Jury Duty (9/24/2005 4:57:41 PM)

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Heh. I was nearly called for a trial involving an automobile manufacturer that was being sued for faulty safety installations. It was expected to last six weeks. I simply could not believe they would consider me--aside from all the other reasons why I would be an extremely ill-suited juror, my mother was almost killed in an automobile accident recently. But it wasn't till the last cut that I finally got sent back to the waiting room. Then I waited there till the assistant remembered to send us all home.

Lordandmaster


i hope Your mom is ok now, Lam.

pinkpleasures



Lordandmaster -> RE: Jury Duty (9/24/2005 9:35:31 PM)

She's fine; she made a 99% recovery.



NakedOnMyChain -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 12:27:47 AM)

I can't answer your post for fear that it will jinx the status quo. We'll just suffice it to say that I don't have any experience in a courtroom. [:D]



KatyLied -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 5:16:19 AM)

Been there, done that. Once. It was three days. A lot of sitting around, outside the courtroom, while lawyers made motions to the judge. The thing that irked me was that it was a case that should've been settled out of court. But the parties just could not agree on damages. Although they did agree on fault! I hope to never be called upon again.



mnottertail -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 6:01:59 AM)

It is inconcievable to me that people in the field of law are not suitable to serve on a jury.....that to me is very foolish, perhaps if they had to do that, we would have a better legal system. They would see more of the who's got a coathanger, I'm Monty Hall, who's got $200. The same logic then, I think, should hold that I have been in court as a defendant and should be excused from further dealings.



pantera -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 7:29:11 AM)



I served for the first time not long ago (I became a citizen in 2003) and we sat there pretty much all day... then the Judge came down personally to thank us for being there, and said that the parties had entered a plea, ... and that we played an important role, just by being there.

I thought that doing that was really nice of her, and really made a difference in how I view jury duty...being my first experience.



Lordandmaster -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 11:41:33 AM)

I think it's because they're worried that a lawyer will have undue influence over the rest of the jury. But I'm not aware that lawyers are AUTOMATICALLY dismissed. In the case I was talking about, one guy in the room was a lawyer who was kind of flippant because he expected to get sent home, and judge gave him a tongue-lashing about his rights and obligations as an American citizen.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It is inconcievable to me that people in the field of law are not suitable to serve on a jury.....that to me is very foolish, perhaps if they had to do that, we would have a better legal system. They would see more of the who's got a coathanger, I'm Monty Hall, who's got $200. The same logic then, I think, should hold that I have been in court as a defendant and should be excused from further dealings.




mnottertail -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 12:01:32 PM)

as in the case of senators, then; those that make the law are somehow beyond it? isn't his like the pharasees and saducees argument we were involved in on the other thread? If you understand the emperor has no clothes you cannot call him out? Or is the idea that being an officer of the court, they have already went the extra mile and did their duty for their for the commonweal? (th) redacted on purpose ....... Or perhaps the gimmick is that we the jury are so fucking stupid because we are common. At the risk of getting NAPALMED BY PINK, I have seen her lose arguments here left and right (not necessarily because she was wrong) but just because she is arguing by the law, precept upon precept. The lawyers take on 'a resonable man' and the world view on that are two entirely different things. You see, they have rules that say that if DUBMASSES (my apologies to elrod (not for spelling but for context(cause I can't believe he would defend what I got to say next)) think that Fucking a mule in montana or driving a goat into lake ponchartrain is a law no longer needed, they can pass...........but can not pass on the other more important laws, those of which have current value; i.e. if Hitler invades a country for no reason (on trumped up charges), that's something that the world has got to get stopped. But if Bush does it (YAEH, ALL YUOU FUCKHEADS AMD ASSWHOLES LISEN UP NOW!) He is an american and that makes it right.

You knew I was gonna come around here people......problem with doing business on the net.

Ron

Erog id est; the law............
A friend of mind in the computer busness has a (sorry, I am not good at caps) tagline that says whatever is said in latin sounds profound.




pinkpleasures -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 12:30:50 PM)

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Really though, pink, as a lawyer, when you are in court you are participating pretty much the whole time presenting your case, listening carefully to opposing counsel for the moment if/when he screws up. In all honesty, would YOU want to sit in a room all day and listen to two lawyers? Even on a great murder case or something, the expert testimony can sometimes be enough to put the judge and attorneys to sleep. Imagine if you are "Joe Blow" who is now getting less than $10 a DAY to sit and listen.

FLButtSlut


Two things: first, the county should pay jurors for parking, and does not. Second, you're bursting my bubble; i thought i was memerizing, LOL. (Actually judges are as lazy as cats; i always provided a summary -- one page long -- of expert witness conclusions and then asked the judge if he/she needed testimony as well; most said "no", LOL.)

pinkpleasures



FelinePersuasion -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 12:48:51 PM)

Snorts, it's not a duty. I don't buy the duty card one bit. I got called last month for the very first time cause I am registerd to vote, even if I don't always. I told them I had no transport which is true. also I have a bad back and I can't sit endleslly which jury duty requires, I was excused.



mnottertail -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 1:00:56 PM)

Ja, I did my duty shit a long time ago.

Walk in there and ask as loudly as you can starting at the first station you go to.............

"When can we start cooking these bastards?"

Even prosecutors (and look them up especially and try to become obnoxious friends) will shy from you and you don't have to sit all day.

If they paid me a senators salary for doing a days work of a senator I would sit......what makes them so valuable and me so not? I thought that is what this country was founded on.

Any of you been to the VA lately? I got lucky and come pretty clean from that deal..........but cause it is not service connected........

Enough about the law, it makes me puke.



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Jury Duty (9/25/2005 1:33:08 PM)

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Any of you been to the VA lately? I got lucky and come pretty clean from that deal..........but cause it is not service connected........

Enough about the law, it makes me puke.
I've been there, and know those people have problems with overabundance of... erm, well you know!
I kind of wish I were still in fairfax county though, that Muthah has among the best schools (public) in the country (top 10 when I was there years ago). M



sub4hire -> RE: Jury Duty (9/26/2005 8:09:48 AM)

I've waited my two days waiting to be called. Here in California they bumped it two days wasted before you can be excused. Even made it to a court room on 3 occassions. Generally they don't care much for me because I'm blunt...and for capital punishment.
If you kill someone you should be killed...period.
I see no reason I should have to pay to support them the next 30 year's of my life while they are in prison. Only to allow them to be let out so they can do it again.
Prisons don't reform people, they merely teach them to be better criminals.

Hence, the reason why they usually don't want me on a jury.



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