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ORIGINAL: domiguy
It is important to have an idea of your subject matter before you start a thread.

Florida and Michigan changed the date of their primaries to try and make their states votes more relevant...You can't do it. It only makes sense. So the DNC ruled that both states delegates would not be seated at the party convention. All of the Democratic candidates agreed not to campaign in Florida and Michigan before the primary.

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11. TIMING OF THE DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS
A. No meetings, caucuses, conventions or primaries which constitute the first determining stage in
the presidential nomination process (the date of the primary in primary states, and the date of the
first tier caucus in caucus states) may be held prior to the first Tuesday in February or after the
second Tuesday in June in the calendar year of the national convention. Provided, however, that
the Iowa precinct caucuses may be held no earlier than 22 days before the first Tuesday in
February; that the Nevada first-tier caucuses may be held no earlier than 17 days before the
first Tuesday in February; that the New Hampshire primary may be held no earlier than 14
days before the first Tuesday in February; and that the South Carolina primary may be held
no earlier than 7 days before the first Tuesday in February. In no instance may a state which
scheduled delegate selection procedures on or between the first Tuesday in February and the
second Tuesday in June 1984 move out of compliance with the provisions of this rule.

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20.C.1.A
Violation of timing: In the event the Delegate Selection Plan of a state party
provides or permits a meeting, caucus, convention or primary which constitutes
the first determining stage in the presidential nominating process to be held prior
to or after the dates for the state as provided in Rule 11 of these rules, or in the
event a state holds such a meeting, caucus, convention or primary prior to or after
such dates, the number of pledged delegates elected in each category allocated to
the state pursuant to the Call for the National Convention shall be reduced by
fifty (50%) percent, and the number of alternates shall also be reduced by fifty
(50%) percent. In addition, none of the members of the Democratic National
Committee and no other unpledged delegate allocated pursuant to Rule 8.A. from
that state shall be permitted to vote as members of the state’s delegation. In
determining the actual number of delegates or alternates by which the state’s
delegation is to be reduced, any fraction below .5 shall be rounded down to the
nearest whole number, and any fraction of .5 or greater shall be rounded up to the
next nearest whole number.

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

If I recall correctly...Clinton did not campain but her name was on the ballots in those states, the only Demcrate..and won...so I am not surprised she wants those votes.

Wrong,

Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Biden, Kucinich, Gravel, Dodd, and Richardson were all on the ballot.  Now we know, Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, and Richardson all dropped out before the primary, but they were still on the ballot.

You can't claim to be an "agent of change" and want to exclude one of the more populous states just because you might not win.

Clinton never campaigned here.  She never spoke she nly flew in for the fund raisers and left.  Of course there were pictures, have you ever noticed the horde of cameras that follow them around?

The  DNC thought it would be easy and those stated wouldn't matter.  Well now its so close that they do.

K