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RE: Good Price for a suspension ring? - 3/18/2008 8:43:27 AM   
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Walking through good ole Canadian Tire this morning in the hardware section I noticed the "Mibro" King Chain makes welded nickel plated Harness rings. I bought a pr for another project i'm working on....the small 1" dia rings (they have much larger ones as well) I bought were rated at a staggering load level of 220lb each, and you certainly can't beat the price at $1.23 a PAIR plus tax for the 1".   Just a thought!

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RE: Good Price for a suspension ring? - 3/18/2008 9:19:32 AM   
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It should be noted that it costs extra to have a rated/approved ring for suspending people.  If you want to play by the book and have everything 100% right you go for a rated/approved suspension ring (most likely climbing or rescue gear).  They should be stamped or printed with "CE", "NFPA" or some other organization (don't know all approving stamps).

Just don't forget to check how the ring is fastened above.

It is not just the responsibility of the Dom to make sure everything is alright.  As a sub you should know what you are getting into and familiarize your self with everything.  That includes both the gear/equipment and also the knowledge of the Dom.

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RE: Good Price for a suspension ring? - 3/18/2008 4:29:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DungeonDesigner

Walking through good ole Canadian Tire this morning in the hardware section I noticed the "Mibro" King Chain makes welded nickel plated Harness rings. I bought a pr for another project i'm working on....the small 1" dia rings (they have much larger ones as well) I bought were rated at a staggering load level of 220lb each, and you certainly can't beat the price at $1.23 a PAIR plus tax for the 1".   Just a thought!


Most rigging experts will tell you that a load raiting of 220 is not enough to suspend someone with, even if they only weigh 110.  Because its A. a human life, not a bag full of bricks.  and B. because its a dynamic load, because the sub can move and shift, that exerts extra force on the rigging besides just thier body weight.  Thats why I have shyed away from buying a standard welded ring at a hardware store.

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RE: Good Price for a suspension ring? - 3/18/2008 9:45:41 PM   
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No no no! I'd never suggest using a 1" welded ring to suspend anything let alone a person       I was just saying that the 1" harness ring is rated at 220lbs .  A 3" ring made by the same company is rated at 700lbs    I've used 2 of the same 3" rings on chains for years to hoist big block engines out of cars that exceed far more weight then the average person. Never a 1" unless you walking your small Dog lol

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RE: Good Price for a suspension ring? - 3/18/2008 10:14:23 PM   
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The big suspension rings are designed to be able to handle a lot of rope. Which is why they are about a foot in diameter. Try to find something like that in a hardware store-not available.

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RE: Good Price for a suspension ring? - 4/12/2008 1:07:45 PM   
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Without a load bearing rating from the manufacturer, I don't find I have much confidence in suspension gear.  That being said, I mainly use CMI, Petzl and Black Diamond climbing gear.  A rigging plate is something that works in the place of these big klunky rings, and it costs around the same price.  I have several "bear paw" rigging plates -- one that has 3 holes, another that has 5 holes and two that have 8.   The prices on the plates seem to vary from $20 - 60.  I also have a "Super 8" descender that works in a similar fashion -- that cost me about $15.  I've also picked up swivels and handy little things to have in a rigger's bag from climbing specialty stores.  http://www.karstsports.com has some of the more decent prices online.


Rigging plates are a decent alternative to a bondage ring, though I would not agree rings are clunky.  They have a beauty and utility that is different than rigging plates.  I use and have used both and believe each has it's own particular merits.  I happen to be  Petzl fan but also use Omega and Black Diamond.  I wold be very interested MisPandora if you would elaborate n how you are using your rigging plates in your up-rig and how you configure the up-rig when using the descender and/or a swivel.  I use the Petzl P58 swivel.

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