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Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeaned vi... - 3/15/2008 10:16:20 AM   
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Well, just last night I read an article about abused women. My first master fit the bill: "A sadist' that seemed able to assess the vulnerability of a woman and exploit it to manipulate her for his need for control and dominance. These sadists have a degraded view of women in which they are all ultimately 'bitches' and 'whores'. They choose "nice" women with no exposure to perverse sexual practices. The transformation of these 'nice' women into humiliated and demeaned victims is a sadist's mission. This process not only insured them access to a compliant sexual partner, but also highlighted the control and mastery he could exert over another.

Initially charming, considerate, daring, unselfish and attentive even while you recognised a sinister side to them. They usually relate to women in a romantic, seductive manner that was the antithesis of their eventual degradation and abuse.

After you been transformed next come physical and psychological punishment. Having met, seduced and transformed a 'nice' woman into a sexually compliant and totally dependent individual, the sadist has validated his theory of women.

The woman is now a subservient, inferior being who has 'allowed' herself to be re-created sexually and has participated in sexual acts that no 'decent' woman would engage in, thereby confirming that she is a 'bitch' and deserving of punishment.

This topic that I had read last night as well as others here have been really hitting home.... I'm learning so much from this community. I wish I had it all together like you all. I am still in the process of trying to extricate my last mater's poisonous influence from my life.

Recently I get involved with an abusive man masquerading as a master. I blame my dad mostly for my weakness. He abused me growing up and tore down my self esteem to the point that I felt I could do or have nothing on my own,I became accustomed to self deprivation because I wanted to believe my dad had my best intrests at heart. I was weak and though his physical abuse was love. He battered my body and worse my esteem.......

And now after that and my last master, the point where I am at today, I wouldn't want to be appreciated as a woman for [pathetic and weak] traits abusive doms look for in a woman with no esteem: need to be hurt, need to be possessed, need to be abused, need to submit, need to be beaten, need to be humiliated, need to be degraded. The experience I had shows me women, any of them wanting those, are weak women and are great prey for women haters. It is very wise for women to stay away from men whose sense of of masculinity depends on the woman's dependency upon him..... 

I feel foolish still because it's so easy to be sucked in... starts with flattery and lots of positive attention and you don't really know what's underneath all the "words" at first. Only when you step away and look in do you see......

I see now he felt like a man only if I was totally submissive and dependent on him He had a double personality; either charming or very cruel, selfish or generous depending on his mood. And the constant small digs.....Just a minipulation of a slow, insidious, breaking down of my self esteem until there‘s next to nothing left, Also I was just an object or a symbol and he didnt relate to me as a person. And he was a master of self-deception, projecting all the blame on me.  I could never get myself around how he could be so cruel....he is like a jekyll and hyde like this and expects me to know his triggers.... god forbid....

I've come to realize that what looks like a master on the outside, there can instead be potential abuser with a channelled outlet for aggression against women, as well as perhaps glorifying violence between women..... There are many signs a woman needs to look after.......

Although they appear very charming at the early stage of the relationship it very quickly shifts to a love/hate relationship. It is all about them, they are not open to negotiations, they do not reason, there is no WIN/WIN situations. And an abuser absolutely doesn't see anything wrong with what they do! They seek a vulnerable person because they know that person will be good to them....

They choose that person because they know they have done wrongs in their life, and they seek to be with someone to balance that out, so they seek the opposite of them, which is the person who will not abuse others. Then they become your best friend, or best boyfriend, and win your trust, enough that you will let them into your closest confidence, and will become your bosom buddy. Soon, it begins....

They hit you saying it is appropriate "punishment" or something they were driven to do.

Anyway, that's my very sad story. All I can say is I am so thankful to be a survivor and it has all made me very strong yet have compassion and love in my heart for all that enter my life, sometimes the hardest lessons are the most treasured ones. If women see danger signs flashing at you as you get involved with someone, PAY ATTENTION. You cannot change someone like this. You cannot ever be good enough, pretty enough, etc. It's a lose lose only for you. If I can help anyone reading this to keep a watchful eye open than thats great. If not, thank you all for reading this post.
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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 10:28:41 AM   
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It isn't clear to me whether you are contending that all BDSM sadists operate out of these sorts of motivations. As it happens this isn't true.

In every other respect your comments were extremely well presented. Thank you for sharing them. They may help someone to avoid the unfortunate sorts of experiences you have had with that particular sort of person.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 11:33:33 AM   
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It is unfortunate that this lifestyle is a forum for many abusers that pose as Masters. What you wrote was well thought out and articulate, yet you leave open the question that Noah has presented... Do you contend that some men, most men, all men involved in BDSM as of this type? For myself, I have written many articles and statements on what to look for and what red flags are there to see. As you should now know, just because a person calls himself a Master doesn't mean they are. I have sadly watch over the last 20+ years how both the internet and the current cultural attitudes has turned this lifestyle into being more of a FAD for women and a predators hunting ground... not to mention those men that have never grown up and lack any form of self control... now wishing to control another.

You cannot just read a few books and play online to become a slave or a Master... it takes self understanding, it takes knowledge, it takes integrity and responsibility to live this lifestyle for real. The vast majority of people are just not honest with themselves in who the are and what they want. They are blinded by a fantasy in their minds that has no link to reality. It is all well and good to go play and have a scene, but how do you live life on a day to day basis within this lifestyle? The answer is that most don't have a clue... Most self proclaimed slaves and subs will not deal with the loss of control on a daily basis... the vast majority of Masters cannot deal with that level of control on a daily basis either... An excellent article you should read is Qualities of a Successful Dominant By Polly Peachum ; Just do a Google search for the title and you will find it.

Being in this lifestyle is more of a life path and process rather than just an end to itself... It is a path os self discovery for both the Dominant as well as the submissive. Yet for a person to be able to take control of another being, they them self need to have a good understanding of them self. Why are they dominant? What brought them to this point? What do they get out of it? What is their philosophy in life? How do they react under stress? What real experience do they have? What knowledge do they have.... meaning; have they bothered to study the female physiology, have they had any real mentoring by another more experienced dominant? How well do they understand resistance and how to deal with it? Are their reactions based upon acting or upon reacting? Is their solution to resistance to punish you or to delve into the issue and situation to understand what it is that causes the resistance... then working with you to over-come that resistance? Do they understand what they want and need as a Dominant? Can they convey that information to you? How do they live their lives outside of the bedroom? Does being a Dominant mean to them that they have to be domineering or that they have to dominate everybody around them? (If so that is a sure sign of lack of esteem, self control, self understanding, and fear). Do they want to help their submissive to have a good self esteem and self confidence? Can they set down a specific course of progress for the submissive... a training plan you might say, with goals to be achieved.

I can go on but this is some of the many things that need to be asked and discovered from a dominant. Just to be sure, you have to be very careful of the sweet talker, they are more likely the ones that will use guilt and shame to manipulate your feelings... your most vulnerable point of contact.

It is apparent by what you said that you also have some deep seated issues that you need to address yourself... these issues will cause you to move towards what you are familiar with rather than what is right for you. If you don't disable the affects you perceive as being caused by your father, then you will continue finding men similar to your father that will enable those feelings and actions. It is only by breaking that anger bond you hold onto that you will be able to see they type of man that can be the Dominant that you really need, rather then the ones that you are currently attracted to by way of your past.

I sincerely hope that you continue in this lifestyle for the right reasons and learn to enjoy the pleasure and freedom of service.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 11:35:34 AM   
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Group therapy with other victims of abuse. Srsly.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 11:49:57 AM   
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Possibly even just support group with other victims of abuse who've suffered at the hands of supposedly "caring" authority figures: doctors, priests, professors, masters, husbands. The Jekyll-and-Hyde effect you so clearly describe is not always an intentional choice on the part of the abuser.

Meanwhile, self-esteem repair needs to be an equally important part of your recovery; moments in front of the mirror saying, "damn, I look great" or just admiring your best feature; affimations as you (go to sleep, drive to work, jog, work out, whatever). And dream journal. That's where the brain (among other things) "takes out the trash." And don't let the post-abuse programming make you believe the subtext that a (for instance) humiliation scene that gets you all hot proves that all you deserve is humiliating treatment.

Finally..."to thine own self be true." Shakespeare took all the best lines.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 1:32:07 PM   
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quote:

I blame my dad mostly for my weakness


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And now after that and my last master, the point where I am at today


You are 29.  You are an adult.  Stop blamming them, and take responsibility for yourself.  If you need therapy to do this, then get it. 

If you would like a list of red-flags to look for in males, PM me, I will be happy to share. 

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 2:02:48 PM   
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I have read through all of the postings on this subject and want to say first that I Sympathize with you and what you are feeling (referencing the original post). Having said that, as a submissive who lives this life on a day to day basis I would like to say that it can be a fulfilling and freeing experience. I agree with Master K when he says that in order to control anothers life you must understand your motivations. And being the one to give up control you must also understand what it is that drives you. I spend a great deal of time examining my own reasons for "doing what I do". I am not submissive because I am weak. In fact, I am a very strong and independant individual. I choose to give myself into the care of my Daddy/ husband. He is a sadist, and I am so not a masochist by definition. I do not love pain for pains sake. I love to please. I struggled with that for a long time until I found a way to accept and embrace myself. I do not offer this insight because I wish to make this post about myself, but merely to show that a strong, capable, intelligent woman can choose to surrender and be proud of that fact. It is difficult to weed out the bad apples, but there are truly good, caring, wicked and wonderful Dominant men and women out there. It is just like any other segment of society. My hsuband and I have been together for seven years, and we grow every day.
Also in agreeing with the others who have said that perhaps it is not so much an issue with BDSM for you, as it is an issue that requires your own counseling to find out what is right for you in your situation.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 3:32:38 PM   
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trouble is we all learn our lessons first hand.  its how you learnt and i learnt and how everyone learns.

its good that you want to warn others of these predators, sadly the reality is, no matter what, people will go their own way and learn their own lessons.  and i have to tell you, theres no guarantee that any one of us has developed immunity from predators, we wont suddenly come up in a warning rash when we brush up close to one.

the lesson i learnt was to always keep something of yourself in reserve.  you can submit, love, freefall into the fun of it, but always keep some corner of yourself there to fall back on if it all goes south - at least until youre absolutely sure and no alarm bells ring anywhere along the line.

keep on track.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 4:43:40 PM   
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As a survivor of past abuse (both in childhood and as an adult) i hear a lot of truth in your words. But i also have learned that you cannot blame every man for the faults and awful actions of those in your past.

i say this alot, but i am with a Man who beats (spanks) me, flogs me, ties me up, causes me pain... yet there is no comparison between Him and my past abusers. With Him, there is true respect and the knowledge that He will not harm me.  The similarities between Him and those in my past are superficial. The differences are fundamental.  The trust is not misplaced, though it was not easy to decide to judge Him on His own merits and not those of the other men in my life.

you need to find your balance, learn to love and respect yourself and most importantly not close yourself off from the possibility of finding something special. If you vow never to trust another man in that way again, you have given your abusers more power over your life. You are allowing them to influence your decisions on your future relationships -- something that would probably give them a great deal of satisfaction if they knew. They aren't in your life anymore but can still make you do things!

i wish you the best and hope you find what will make you happy.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 7:13:46 PM   
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I feel abused by the federal government-does anyone know the a safeword that works?

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 7:17:24 PM   
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"i have a bomb" ?

ps Leatherist, your link dosent work :(

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 7:21:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hellosmoooo


And now after that and my last master, the point where I am at today, I wouldn't want to be appreciated as a woman for [pathetic and weak] traits abusive doms look for in a woman with no esteem: need to be hurt, need to be possessed, need to be abused, need to submit, need to be beaten, need to be humiliated, need to be degraded.


Hey, if you're really done with this guy, could you please give him my name?

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 7:30:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domahpet

"i have a bomb" ?

ps Leatherist, your link dosent work :(


Rats.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 7:58:56 PM   
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Greetings,

I have seen this in and out of BDSM.

These sweet talking abusive types abound in all walks of life and communities.

Having worked in womens abuse shelters, on crisis hotlines, and been in law enforcement these type of Dominant abusers tend to have a very low self esteem, and sense of self worth. The way they boost thier egos is by manipulating and thwarting the self worth and egos of others. It is usualy over a long span of time. They usualy themselves were the geeky out of place kid, or abused or otherwise somehow emotionaly "damaged" usualy in childhood.
Many have a need to be "hero worshiped" or "Master worshiped" as you said they go about to find the sweetest and more caring indiviedual they can, and then make them as needy and emotionaly fragile as possible so thier whole world revolves around them. This of course is never a healthy thing.

It is why I have told submissive friends of mine, and those looking for realtionships that when they find someone.. if that person does not value them or thier wishes... run away.

We often talk of this whole concept of "Topping from the bottom" but I think a lot of these abusive types simply use that as a cover for thier need to treat thier submissives as sub-human in and out of scenes. We are humans first. *smiles* Now you do have the TPE crowd... and that is fine. But to those who fall into abusive realtionships I would never reconmend that off the bat.

Anytime you have the courage to be a submissive ( yes.. it takes a hell of a lot of courage to give ones self over. To me that is powerful.. and not weak. ) you have to choose wisely and chose who is going to have your best interest at heart and who is going to build you up and not break you down.

I wish you the best of luck with that.

I would find a good group counciling that you can join. It helps more then you know.  Those past issues and feelings plauge a person more then you realize untill they are lessened.

As I have told my submissives... and many a Dom/me

Because you are submissve does not make you weak. It makes you strong. It means you are capable to step outside of your Self and your ego... and to allow another in. Any one can give orders and ask another for things. Not many have the power from within to give themselves over in submission and lose not themself, but become more self aware of who they never dreamed of being.

I wish you well on your journey, if you wish to talk I am always here.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 8:27:08 PM   
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My Sir is a true sadist - he loves to physically hurt me and other girls.
He is the most loving, sensitive, caring man I have ever met.
Sadism does not equal abusive or psychopathic.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/15/2008 8:39:57 PM   
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i'm seriously not trying to be rude or uncaring.......However, there comes a point where you are a volunteer and no longer a victim.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/16/2008 11:03:38 AM   
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Thanks OP, for your insightful message.  I wish all women, within this lifestyle or not, could read it or articles like it.  You described almost perfectly my ex-husband which is why he's the ex.  When in a relationship like that, it's common and easy to feel as if this is what normal life is like not really knowing that the outside is much better.  When you hit rock bottom, the only place to go is up.  My eyes were opened to the fact that the life I was living was definitely not how "normal" couples lived and I screwed up the courage and wherewithal to leave.  The result is that I got stronger within myself, knowing myself to be a good person and deserving of a good partner.  I learned to stand up for myself and my convictions and that it is okay not to let someone push me around.  So even bad stories can have good endings.  My experience, as bad as it was, is not regretted in the least because I learned from it.  I learned what I could accept and what I couldn't, what I liked and disliked, and what I would tolerate from a man or relationship and what I considered intolerable.  I learned how to make more informed choices of who I wanted to spend time with.  Meeting JR showed me that not all men are like the ex (thank Gawd for that) and that some relationships are indeed the happy contented loving caring almost sappy stories you see on TV.  It takes work but it's worth it.  Once in a good relationship, it's also much easier to pick out the bad ones and see them for what they are....and thank the Lord that I'm not there anymore.

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/16/2008 11:20:36 AM   
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OP, actually that was pretty hot.

servile, sexually perverted............I was shooting wad-cutters..........

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/16/2008 12:08:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hellosmoooo

Initially charming, considerate, daring, unselfish and attentive even while you recognised a sinister side to them. CHECK They usually relate to women in a romantic, seductive manner that was the antithesis of their eventual degradation and abuse. CHECK 

Having met, seduced and transformed a 'nice' woman into a sexually compliant and totally dependent individual, the sadist has validated his theory of women. CHECK

The woman is now a subservient, inferior being who has 'allowed' herself to be re-created sexually and has participated in sexual acts that no 'decent' woman would engage in, thereby confirming that she is a 'bitch' and deserving of punishment. CHECK

And now after that and my last master, the point where I am at today, I wouldn't want to be appreciated as a woman for [pathetic and weak] traits abusive doms look for in a woman with no esteem: need to be hurt,CHECK  need to be possessed, CHECK need to be abused, CHECK need to submit,CHECK  need to be beaten,CHECK  need to be humiliated,CHECK  need to be degraded. CHECK 

I feel foolish still because it's so easy to be sucked in... starts with flattery CHECK  and lots of positive attention and you don't really know what's underneath all the "words" at first. CHECK  Only when you step away and look in do you see......

Although they appear very charming at the early stage of the relationship CHECK it very quickly shifts to a love/hate relationship. CHECK It is all about them, they are not open to negotiations, they do not reason, there is no WIN/WIN situations. And an abuser absolutely doesn't see anything wrong with what they do! They seek a vulnerable person because they know that person will be good to them.... CHECK



See .. thing  is ... errrr .... thats almost a manifesto for someone I know
Just a manifesto viewed like a photograph negative. Every time one of my "weaknesses" is manipulated by Him, it makes either me into a better/stronger person .. or it makes both of us happy.

The horrifc abuse will come later, after I have sorted the tangled mess of his laundry room. No sense in breaking her into her component parts until she has done the laundry.

and nodsnodsnods Ron .. that was kinda hot also .. especially the bit about "has participated in sexual acts that no 'decent' woman would engage in" ... pfffffff  my decency has nothing to do with what or who I fuck ... I could be made to fuck goats and the only thing that would make me less decent IS MYSELF .. my self image, and my self worth are made by MYSELF
*looks over her shoulder* ... If You are reading this ... this isn't a hint ok ... lets stick to buying and selling slaves with the goats .. not getting us to fuck them ... ok ... ???

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RE: Transforming nice women into humiliated and demeane... - 3/16/2008 12:36:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: softness

quote:

ORIGINAL: hellosmoooo

Initially charming, considerate, daring, unselfish and attentive even while you recognised a sinister side to them. CHECK They usually relate to women in a romantic, seductive manner that was the antithesis of their eventual degradation and abuse. CHECK 

Having met, seduced and transformed a 'nice' woman into a sexually compliant and totally dependent individual, the sadist has validated his theory of women. CHECK

The woman is now a subservient, inferior being who has 'allowed' herself to be re-created sexually and has participated in sexual acts that no 'decent' woman would engage in, thereby confirming that she is a 'bitch' and deserving of punishment. CHECK

And now after that and my last master, the point where I am at today, I wouldn't want to be appreciated as a woman for [pathetic and weak] traits abusive doms look for in a woman with no esteem: need to be hurt,CHECK  need to be possessed, CHECK need to be abused, CHECK need to submit,CHECK  need to be beaten,CHECK  need to be humiliated,CHECK  need to be degraded. CHECK 

I feel foolish still because it's so easy to be sucked in... starts with flattery CHECK  and lots of positive attention and you don't really know what's underneath all the "words" at first. CHECK  Only when you step away and look in do you see......

Although they appear very charming at the early stage of the relationship CHECK it very quickly shifts to a love/hate relationship. CHECK It is all about them, they are not open to negotiations, they do not reason, there is no WIN/WIN situations. And an abuser absolutely doesn't see anything wrong with what they do! They seek a vulnerable person because they know that person will be good to them.... CHECK



See .. thing  is ... errrr .... thats almost a manifesto for someone I know
Just a manifesto viewed like a photograph negative. Every time one of my "weaknesses" is manipulated by Him, it makes either me into a better/stronger person .. or it makes both of us happy.

The horrifc abuse will come later, after I have sorted the tangled mess of his laundry room. No sense in breaking her into her component parts until she has done the laundry.

and nodsnodsnods Ron .. that was kinda hot also .. especially the bit about "has participated in sexual acts that no 'decent' woman would engage in" ... pfffffff  my decency has nothing to do with what or who I fuck ... I could be made to fuck goats and the only thing that would make me less decent IS MYSELF .. my self image, and my self worth are made by MYSELF
*looks over her shoulder* ... If You are reading this ... this isn't a hint ok ... lets stick to buying and selling slaves with the goats .. not getting us to fuck them ... ok ... ???


While on the surface, your humor is to be appreciated, I think it hides a darker truth.  It sounds like your Owner/Master/Dom(me)/Top(pe) is abusive and manipulative.  You've internalized this abuse, and seek to make it 'okay' or 'special' in some way.  This is just more evidence of his abuse of you.  While I don't know you, I'd strongly recommend proffessional help.  Your submission is a precious gift, one to be cherished, not to be abused or spat upon in this way.  You're young, you have your whole life in front of you.   Don't waste the delicate flower that you are upon this rock of evil.



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