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xxblushesxx -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/17/2008 1:41:14 PM)

Pahunkboy; a landlord *may* do whatever it is they can get away with. Eviction laws in your state: http://www.rentlaw.com/eviction/paeviction.htm

Eviction laws in California: http://www.rentlaw.com/eviction/californiaeviction.htm

Knowledge is power.

The CALIFORNIA EVICTION PROCESS
Part 1 - 
Overview of the eviction process
If the tenant doesn't voluntarily move out after the landlord has properly given the required notice to the tenant, the landlord can evict the tenant. In order to evict the tenant, the landlord must file an unlawful detainer lawsuit in superior court.
In an eviction lawsuit, the landlord is called the "plaintiff" and the tenant is called the "defendant."
An unlawful detainer lawsuit is a "summary" court procedure. This means that the court action moves forward very quickly, and that the time given the tenant to respond during the lawsuit is very short. For example, in most cases, the tenant has only five days to file a written response to the lawsuit after being served with a copy of the landlord's complaint. Normally, a judge will hear and decide the case within 20 days after the tenant files an answer.
The court-administered eviction process assures the tenant of the right to a court hearing if the tenant believes that the landlord has no right to evict the tenant. The landlord must use this court process to evict the tenant; the landlord cannot use self-help measures to force the tenant to move. For example, the landlord cannot physically remove or lock out the tenant, cut off utilities such as water or electricity, remove outside windows or doors, or seize (take) the tenant's belongings in order to carry out the eviction. The landlord must use the court procedures.
If the landlord uses unlawful methods to evict a tenant, the landlord may be subject to liability for the tenant's damages, as well as penalties of up to $100 per day for the time that the landlord used the unlawful methods.265
In an unlawful detainer lawsuit, the court holds a hearing at which the parties can present their evidence and explain their case. If the court finds that the tenant has a good defense, the court will not evict the tenant. If the court decides in favor of the tenant, the tenant will not have to move, and the landlord may be ordered to pay court costs (for example, the tenant's filing fees). The landlord also may have to pay the tenant's attorney's fees, if the rental agreement contains an attorney's fee clause and if the tenant was represented by an attorney. 
If the court decides in favor of the landlord, the court will issue a writ of possession. The writ of possession orders the sheriff to remove the tenant from the rental unit, but gives the tenant five days from the date that the writ is served to leave voluntarily. If the tenant does not leave by the end of the fifth day, the writ of possession authorizes the sheriff to physically remove and lock the tenant out, and seize (take) the tenant's belongings that have been left in the rental unit. The landlord is not entitled to possession of the rental unit until after the sheriff has removed the tenant.
The court also may award the landlord any unpaid rent if the eviction is based on the tenant's failure to pay rent. The court also may award the landlord damages, court costs, and attorney's fees (if the rental agreement or lease contains an attorney's fee clause and if the landlord was represented by an attorney). If the court finds that the tenant acted maliciously in not giving up the rental unit, the court also may award the landlord up to $600 as a penalty. The judgment against the tenant will be reported on the tenant's credit report for seven years.













Eviction of "unnamed occupants"
Sometimes, people who are not parties to the rental agreement or lease move into the rental unit with the tenant or after the tenant leaves, but before the unlawful detainer lawsuit is filed. When a landlord thinks that these "occupants" might claim a legal right to possess the rental unit, the landlord may seek to include them as defendants in the eviction action, even if the landlord doesn't know who they are. 


In this case, the landlord will tell the process server to serve the occupants with a Prejudgment Claim of Right to Possession form at the same time that the eviction summons and complaint are served on the tenants who are named defendants. See additional discussion of "unnamed occupants" and Claim of Right to Possession forms.
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xxblushesxx -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/18/2008 8:38:47 AM)

So...what happened?




domahpet -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/18/2008 8:51:11 AM)

http://www.hud.gov/local/ca/renting/tenantrights.cfm




xxblushesxx -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/19/2008 8:29:32 AM)

I hate *no* endings worse than unhappy endings.[:o][&o]




YourhandMyAss -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/19/2008 8:54:50 AM)

He's going to go up this sunday and try to rescue his stuff, shouldn't be to much problem. I hope. If it is well then we'll be all over her like white on rice, please excuse the stupid uphanisim, and we'll be calling the tenant land lord dispute line.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/25/2008 5:20:02 PM)

ok she still refuses to provide a key, n she's had weeks n weeks to,  and on top of that she padlocked it so he can't simply reach into the window an undue the lock, n he refuses to do anything, like cut the bolt or call the cops like we were instructed to do if she obscured his entry. He said ok to cutting the bolt and then the places crazy busy body apparently threatend to call the cops on him for being a robber, I said good let them c ome out, proove you're not robbing the place and do some affirmitive action to get yourstuff.

I'm getting pretty angry at him now, cause he refuses to do anything but throw his hands up and come home and wait on terresa, and I feel kind of like he's being spineless, and we only got 6 more days till he isn't aresident there any more. and some of our belongings are irreplacable cause they're gifts I got him when we first started dating, and they were expensive gifts plus some of the shit we're facing loosing is my gardening supplies, and I spent 300 bucks or more all told on stuff.




Kirren -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/25/2008 5:48:22 PM)

Generally when you tell some one that if they dont let you in, and the rent is paid, so that you can get your stuff to move out, that you will file a suit, they shut the hell up and give you a key.

If worst comes to worst tell the sherriff that you intend to get your things, the rent is paid and there is NO reason for them to not allow you in the palce, and that you plan to cut the pad lock as she is not giving it to you. A land lord can not, not allow a tennent the right to personal property. That is illegal as hell the last I heard.

Could be wrong tho, things change.




ottRopesandKnots -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/25/2008 6:58:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

we have tough laws here too,but that doesnt stop landlords from padlocking and cutting utilities.  i had that happen just last year.  of course the more he did that- the more mad i got.

in any event- re-read the lease. it should be spelled out.



Many things in a lease aren't legal.  Although a lease is a civil contract, the laws supercede anything which may contradict them which are in the lease.  The lease is the last place you should look, the first being any landlord/tenant resources which explain your rights.




ottRopesandKnots -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/25/2008 7:11:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss
I'm getting pretty angry at him now, cause he refuses to do anything but throw his hands up and come home and wait on terresa, and I feel kind of like he's being spineless, and we only got 6 more days till he isn't aresident there any more. and some of our belongings are irreplacable cause they're gifts I got him when we first started dating, and they were expensive gifts plus some of the shit we're facing loosing is my gardening supplies, and I spent 300 bucks or more all told on stuff.


My bet is that there's something else going on he's not telling you about.

BTW, if they felt the need to drill the lock to see if he was dead, they still needed the cops with them.




Level -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to come in (3/25/2008 7:11:47 PM)

Not sure about anywhere else, but here in Texas, you can get something called a writ of re-entry. A justice of the peace court will issue it, and either the Sherrif's office or the constable will serve it.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/25/2008 7:23:56 PM)

she is honestly a bad land lady I lived there for 2 months almost and the place is really whack. nothing's fixed that's broken, she's trying to turn the grove end of the park into a traveling rv park like the far end, and that requires cutting all the tree's down and demolishing all the landscaping and the people there had to go get a suit  called protect the grove to keep her from demolishing all the tree's on that end, and she still cut one up pretty bad to fit a big old rv in the lot it was supposed to go in, even though the suit says she's not to cut up any of the tree's.  She also kicked a pretty nice tennant out cause he's gay, now she never out an out said it's cause you're gay, she said hepartied to hard had to many people over at odd hours of the night and had poeple living with him illegally, which wasn't true. She wants the regular tenants there that signed the lease to protect their end of the grove to leave so the suit's not valid any more.
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ORIGINAL: ottRopesandKnots

quote:

ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss
I'm getting pretty angry at him now, cause he refuses to do anything but throw his hands up and come home and wait on terresa, and I feel kind of like he's being spineless, and we only got 6 more days till he isn't aresident there any more. and some of our belongings are irreplacable cause they're gifts I got him when we first started dating, and they were expensive gifts plus some of the shit we're facing loosing is my gardening supplies, and I spent 300 bucks or more all told on stuff.


My bet is that there's something else going on he's not telling you about.

BTW, if they felt the need to drill the lock to see if he was dead, they still needed the cops with them.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/26/2008 3:23:46 PM)

he called fair housing yesterday. I didn't know he did, They called back today saying they will investigate, and that they will try to talk to tressa about the situation. James also talked to managment n they assured him that they would try to make sure that nothing happens to his stuff. we're probably gonna see this  resolved real soon I hope.




xxblushesxx -> RE: If your landlord is playing games with giving you keys to your place can you get the cops to com (3/27/2008 12:54:47 PM)

You do have recourse. I provided a link further up which explains landlord tenant law in CA; a pasted a bit of the info directly here; (the pertinant parts highlighted in red.)

Landlords (the bad ones) take advantage of people because people are naive, don't know the law, and don't know what to do even if they do know the law.

Take here to court ASAP, and in your complaint be sure to list the items inside and their approximate value. (value at this time, not new). You may be able to get treble damages because of the landlord not acting legally, and you may be able to receive $100. per day for every day she illegally constructively evicted you.




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