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puppy play vs. human dog - 3/18/2008 7:41:24 PM   
shaobaihu


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What are the differences between these two?
How would one go about trainging for these?
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RE: puppy play vs. human dog - 3/18/2008 7:54:07 PM   
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In my head the essence is that a puppy is more of a spoiled pet who gets to romp around occasionally, while a human dog becomes that dog and is expected to do all the dog things- work, go away, go outside to use the bathroom, etc.  Or that puppy play is a subset type of alt kink under "human animalization"

While it's not so much the act of what each does, it's the mindset they feel they get into.  The difference between someone going to a Renn Faire in costume vs an SCAer who is part of the court.

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RE: puppy play vs. human dog - 3/18/2008 8:05:29 PM   
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While it's not so much the act of what each does, it's the mindset they feel they get into. The difference between someone going to a Renn Faire in costume vs an SCAer who is part of the court.


while i have not seen anyone into it make the distinction between puppy play and human dog...yes, this would be the difference...of course most of the puppies i know are more human dogs or humans that go into pup space where they have the mind set of a dog...but still call it puppy play...they can do it with or without the "costume" - the paws, the tail, etc...

there are others out there that just get into the fetish of dressing like a pup and never get into the mindset of a dog...and there is nothing wrong with that...that is there kink...but it could be likened to the people at S&M Balls who are there to Stand and Model, not for Sadism and Masochism....again, nothing wrong with it, it's their kink, it's just different from others who use the same visual "label"...ie. they look the same...

does that help?
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RE: puppy play vs. human dog - 3/18/2008 8:25:48 PM   
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By no means an expert, never even experienced this kind of play really, but I'll throw out what my mind arrives at when I consider the question.  I would think that puppy play would be someone who identifies as and enjoys thinking of themselves as a puppy.  Human dog sounds more like humiliation play where they are stripped of their humanity and not allowed to do human behaviors, only animal ones.  Kind of like a human trapped as a dog, rather than really feeling like they are a puppy. 

That is just what comes to mind, not saying it is universal or even educated point of view.


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RE: puppy play vs. human dog - 3/18/2008 8:33:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

In my head the essence is that a puppy is more of a spoiled pet who gets to romp around occasionally, while a human dog becomes that dog and is expected to do all the dog things- work, go away, go outside to use the bathroom, etc. 


Pretty much what I was thinking.  My experiences with puppy play have been more playful.  Fun exercises in sit, heel, catch the ball, fetch, etc.  He is more playful, too, like one would be while playing with a puppy.  In human dog experiences, it's not so "playful."  I'm eating, drinking out of a bowl on a more serious note.  I might actually have to sleep with his dogs.  I'll get a more serious pat on the head for a job well done.  He threatened recently to give me dog biscuits as "treats" and I begged if they can at least be vegitarian, which made him laugh (he thought that was hilarious for some reason!).  So I went to the store that day and got raw hide chews, in a good faith effort that I would indeed eat them if he chose to feed them to me. 

He patted my head and said he didn't really intend to do that.  So I gave them to my cousin's dog.  :)  Whew!

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RE: puppy play vs. human dog - 3/18/2008 9:06:37 PM   
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for me and many others i have spoken with (IPTC is an excellent place to tease pups, i mean meet pups), existing as an animal (it would be a kitty for me) would not be humilliating, it would be extacy...eating commercial food made for animals would not be healthy - the standards are just not there for pet food, but they have recipes online that sound really good...and i don't know about anyone else, but i have been known to chew on a steak bone...does that make me weird? lol...let's see, sleeping with the dogs? i nap with the dogs all the time...if it was instead of being allowed to sleep with him, i would think it was punishment, but i don't think my current owner would do that...he let his last k9 dog take up more room than he had in his bed....

then again this is coming from a person who is often asked to come back to human...

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RE: puppy play vs. human dog - 3/18/2008 9:34:18 PM   
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A human dog is a mature human pup.  The temperment is more settled.  They have taken some training and grown into some confidence rather than brashness and naivety.

Most human dogs go through a process of maturing.  It normally takes years.  I have been a pup, but my pup developed only into a "guard dog" facet of my personality. 

Some pups never grow up.  Ran into one of those recently.  Years of experience, and still a puppy.  He just has the pup in his heart. It's the way he is.

These days I train and play with both pups and dogs.  But for me, pups are way more fun. Mischief! Sometimes they are pure mischief!

I am co-hosting "Pony and Pet Day" at the local dungeon here in central Florida a few weeks from now.  Drop me a note if you want an invitation.

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RE: puppy play vs. human dog - 3/19/2008 6:19:19 AM   
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Thank you all for your information.

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RE: puppy play vs. human dog - 3/19/2008 7:19:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

While it's not so much the act of what each does, it's the mindset they feel they get into. 

Probably one of the most astute observations about virtually every sort of kink.  Including the much debated difference between "submissive vs slave".

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