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Ok, my turn to troll - 3/22/2008 10:20:42 PM   
AAkasha


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"Hi submissives. I have a fantasy and I think I am the only person to ever have this fantasy!  I love seeing a man overpowered by chloroform, especially if it's another man doing it to him and I am just watching the action.  Have any submissives ever participated in this roleplay fantasy? How did you enact it and make it believable? How did you behave? What did it look like?  What did you do?  Make sure you tell me all the details and remember, it's another man doing it to you!"

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/22/2008 10:32:19 PM   
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Where does the line form.Are do I just volunteer,when will we be doing this or is it supposed to be a surprise

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/22/2008 11:09:21 PM   
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My boy and I both have the chloroform fantasy in a very big way.  I don't know that I'd want another man to do it to him necessarily, though, since that'd take away all the fun of me overpowering him and then taking advantage of him while he's helpless...

...Oh dear, I think I just cackled a little.

Also, in response to the trolling, 10/10, epic thread.

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 12:31:41 AM   
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=6Drp_SKhEck

2:22 in.

Edit: Added the time.


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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 2:51:52 AM   
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Aakasha..no way no how will a man ever cover this boy's mouth with anything and i am a handgag lover as well as a gag fetishist which means i would love the chloro fantasy but only with a straight woman or Domina.I would urge you if i may to go back and read my posting on page two of the shared fantasies thread which is in response to your handgagging vanilla men when you were younger.I never liked male hand over mouth/chloro scenes/bondage scenes in TV or movies although the females were the ones always getting the gas so to speak.All i did was remove the femme fatale and make her a strong Dominant woman who overpowered me and not the guys on the tube.I was a quiet kid but when i had my mouth covered for the very first time in my life by a woman..needless to say i became a "butinsky"and a mouthy brat growing into my high school years.There was no shortage of ladies who would step up and shut me up and then realize that i was actually enjoying it.

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 7:16:03 AM   
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Oh AAkasha! You're SOOO naughty!!! I'm ashamed to say I had never thought about this...

Can't wait to see the line up of drewling men who will answer your post... lol!

Miss Lily

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 10:52:12 AM   
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Oh AAkasha! You're SOOO naughty!!! I'm ashamed to say I had never thought about this...

Can't wait to see the line up of drewling men who will answer your post... lol!

Miss Lily


Alas none of the sub boys are taking the time to write to me and indulge my fantasies...none of them are even TRYING. So sad...oh well, I suppose I have to sit here and pleasure myself with my own ideas...

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 10:54:09 AM   
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hmmmzzzz....

Chloroform, also known as trichloromethane and methyl trichloride, is a chemical compound with formula CHCl3. It does not undergo combustion in air, although it will burn when mixed with more flammable substances. It is a member of a group of compounds known as trihalomethanes. Chloroform has myriad uses as a reagent and a solvent. It is also considered an environmental hazard.

environmental hazard! gotta try it.


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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 10:54:14 AM   
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Aakasha..no way no how will a man ever cover this boy's mouth with anything and i am a handgag lover as well as a gag fetishist which means i would love the chloro fantasy but only with a straight woman or Domina.I would urge you if i may to go back and read my posting on page two of the shared fantasies thread which is in response to your handgagging vanilla men when you were younger.I never liked male hand over mouth/chloro scenes/bondage scenes in TV or movies although the females were the ones always getting the gas so to speak.All i did was remove the femme fatale and make her a strong Dominant woman who overpowered me and not the guys on the tube.I was a quiet kid but when i had my mouth covered for the very first time in my life by a woman..needless to say i became a "butinsky"and a mouthy brat growing into my high school years.There was no shortage of ladies who would step up and shut me up and then realize that i was actually enjoying it.


I have read about your interest in your other posts.  Perhaps your self indulgence toward it is why you have trouble finding dominant women to do it?  I have no problem with the idea that bottoms enjoy what I am doing to them; but when they are so incredibly eager, or pushy about the how and why, I get turned off. I want it done on my terms, that's why it makes me wet. 

If you WERE getting your mouth covered tightly by a man...but a woman was the one watching and enjoying it...what's the difference?  Whose pleasure is most important?


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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 10:57:25 AM   
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Probably not safe to use very often.

Make friends with your local organic chemist.

(but not me )

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 11:30:30 AM   
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Not sure that using chemicals to render someone unconscious fails to fall under the safe sane and consensual act of oh whenever it was written lol.

Just as well though, makes it impossible to do anything fun. lol


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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 11:38:18 AM   
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Not sure that using chemicals to render someone unconscious fails to fall under the safe sane and consensual act of oh whenever it was written lol.

Just as well though, makes it impossible to do anything fun. lol



Reading comprehension people!  ROLEPLAY!  Do you know what roleplay means?

HELLO??

Hence the specific question, "how did you roleplay it and make it believable"?


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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 12:29:46 PM   
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heh.  Yeah, I missed that part too "roleplay"

Although people tend to mean different things when they say "roleplay."  As in, I thought you were roleplaying a scene (Ie, thief, rapist, etc) using actual chloromethane.  (the roleplay part being the "roles" of the people, not the actual activity)



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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 12:44:18 PM   
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"Hi submissives. I have a fantasy and I think I am the only person to ever have this fantasy!  I love seeing a man overpowered by chloroform, especially if it's another man doing it to him and I am just watching the action.  Have any submissives ever participated in this roleplay fantasy? How did you enact it and make it believable? How did you behave? What did it look like?  What did you do?  Make sure you tell me all the details and remember, it's another man doing it to you!"

Akasha



I can’t say I’ve ever acted out a chloroform scenario, nor really fantasised about it in the past. But now that you mention it, the idea does sound pretty hot. Here’s how I could imagine it working – if that’s an acceptable substitute for speaking from experience.

So… there are a couple of rules in place, to provide as much authenticity as possible. Somewhere in your domain is a special green cloth, kept in a jar clearly labelled “chloroform”. I’ve been told that, when the cloth is being held over my mouth and nose, I must slowly lapse into passivity. At first, I can kick and struggle as much as I want. After I’ve taken twenty breaths (or whatever number seems realistic – I’m no anaesthesiologist!) I must allow my eyes to fall half-shut, and my struggles must weaken. After a further twenty breaths, I must close my eyes and relax completely. At that point, I remain totally passive until someone shakes me “awake”. If I manage to get the cloth away from my mouth and nose while being subdued, every breath I take without the cloth in place is subtracted from the current count. What I haven’t been told is when the cloth will be applied, or by whom.

The rules may seem unnecessarily elaborate, but they do allow for a completely unfeigned struggle to fight clear of the cloth and remain “awake”. After all, having to keep my eyes closed and my body relaxed would be scary – once in that condition, I would be completely vulnerable, and you could prepare me for all sorts of unpleasantness without my being able to resist or even see what you were doing. And having to count breaths would give me exactly the same choice I’d face if I were really being chloroformed. I could struggle a lot, and breathe hard, and fall “unconsciousness” quickly if I failed to get loose. Or I could struggle less, and breathe more slowly, but have less hope of breaking free before I finally went down.
 
On pure instinct, however, I'm sure I'd struggle hard when the muscular stranger grabbed me from behind. I probably wouldn’t even know he was there – he’d step out of a shadowy doorway in your domain and grab me, perhaps as you were leading me inside for what I thought would be a dull afternoon of housework, or something. I wouldn’t get a clear look at him, but I’d see the flash of the green cloth in his hand as he closed in, and I’d feel the strength in his arms when he threw them around my torso, pinning my own arms to my sides. His hand would come up, and the cloth would settle over the lower part of my face.  And you’d turn around to watch, and smile.

I’d fight hard – of course I would. I’d never imagined that a male accomplice would be involved when the “chloroformed” cloth went over my face, and the thought of what you AND HE might do to me once I was “unconscious” would fill me with dread. I’d thrash around, throw my head from side to side, perhaps try to slither downwards out of his arms and away from that terrifying piece of cloth. I’d look at you with wild desperation in my eyes, as if you might help me, as if you might have mercy, as if you weren’t the one who meticulously arranged this rough encounter in the first place. Perhaps I’d manage to fight clear for just a breath or two, before your accomplice clamped the cloth in place again even more firmly than before; perhaps he would even be unable to hold me up, and would have to fall to the ground with me, pinning me under his weight almost at your feet. But in the end, I wouldn’t stand a chance. As I kicked and squirmed, as I wrestled helplessly against his superior strength, I would count my breaths. After twenty, I would accept that the game was up – I would continue to struggle weakly, with half-closed eyes, but he and I would both know that he would have no trouble holding me a little longer while I slipped into “unconsciousness”. I would look up at you as I took my 39th breath, wanting to say something, wanting to plead, but finding myself stifled by the pressure of the cloth. As my lungs filled for the 40th time, my eyes would fall completely shut, and my body would go limp.

“Is he finally under?” your voice would say, far above me.

“Yes, ma’am. We’ve got him.” A deeper voice, filled with quiet satisfaction at having overpowered me.

“Good.” And then, inevitably, five words that would strike fear into my heart. “Strip him. And bring him.”  

Once again, I’m sorry that this was the product of an overactive imagination, rather than a real experience. But I think it COULD work, if you were to find a suitably strong and aggressive assistant – and a suitably plucky victim.

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 12:44:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Hence the specific question, "how did you roleplay it and make it believable"?


Akasha



There are two ways to make it believable - the true to life way, or the filmatic way (for a great treastise on the different, read Tom Stoppard's 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead' play, somewhere near the end of the final act). 

If you want to make it true to life, take a volatile, but non hazardous liquid (red wine vinegar is great) and soak a rag in it.  Have the 'attacker' sneak up behind the 'victim' and cover his nose and mouth with the rag.  Then have the victim fight for a few minutes, slowly weakening as the 'oxygen' is replaced by the solvent, making him become both weaker and slightly loopy (think: kids snorting glue).  When he wakes up, have him bitch nonstop about a killer headache and muscle pains.

If you want to go for something cinematic (which, despite being less true to life, is often more believable) soak the rag in something smelly and inflammable (Bacardi 151 works).  As the attackerk covers the victim's face, have the victim go instantly limp in his arms.  Then have the attacker light the rag on fire to 'destroy the evidence'.  Looks cooler, that.

Hope that that helps.

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 12:44:59 PM   
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It's a cool, crisp fall evening and, because it's a Holiday, all of the clubs and bars in the district are closed, save one upscale fine-dining establishment. I'm escorting you back to your car after a lovely evening of discussing everything under the sun over a gourmet meal and a bottle of wine, from which you so graciously offered me a third glass instead of having a second, yourself. Being tall, fit and having a rather high metabolism, I rather enjoy the excess of downing most of a glass of expensive red wine after a delicious desert, and think nothing of the alcohol, which I know won't impair my ability to walk the few blocks back to my apartment. As we turn the corner to the side street where you're parked, I glance over my shoulder as I hear behind us aways and see a man dressed in fashionable sportswear jogging down the sidewalk on the other side of the street. I make somewhat sarcastic comment about jogging late and night and you politely chuckle. As we walk on, we hear the jogger cross and turn down the sidewalk behind us.

Thinking nothing of it, simply expecting him to jog around us I'm somewhat startled when he calls out, "Excuse me!" As we un-entwine arms and turn towards each other to face him, I gasp as I see a white cloth in his hand coming towards my face and just manage to close my mouth before he covers it. I instinctively hold my breath as my nostrils start to tingle from the chemical. While somewhat shorter than me, the assailant clearly has either wrestling or martial arts experience as he slips behind me, hands clamped on the front and back of my head, and pulls me back and down, forcing me on my toes to maintain my balance. He expertly dodges my rather feeble attempts to hit or kick him and keeps his tight grip over my mouth as I try to thrash my head free.

As I start to comprehend my predicament, I see you step forward and a glimmer of hope flashes across my face before quickly fading away when I realize you're sauntering up to me wearing a shit-eating grin, clearly enthralled with the current situation. I try to plead with my eyes, and scream something into the gag, still keeping my mouth closed, which makes your face light up in glee even more. As I frantically look around, clearly starting to panic, I see you raise your fist and feel it come down on my diaphragm, completely knocking the wind out of me and making me go limp. The jogger holds my head so as to slow my descent and guides me to my knees, hunched over. Instinctively, I inhale deeply, pulling the chemical in, filling my nose, throat and lungs. As I do, he relaxes his grip and starts to tip me over, all of us knowing my consciousness is rapidly fading. Once I'm more or less prone, he stands back straight and I manage to turn my head enough to see the two of you embrace in a passionate kiss over my body as my vision fades to black around you, thoughts of fear and betrayal race through my head and the last thing I see before passing out is your mouths pressed together.


Ya know, I really can't stand to see a Domina whine , so even though this isn't really my thing, I thought I would indulge you. Hope you liked it.

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 1:43:43 PM   
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Aakasha..no way no how will a man ever cover this boy's mouth with anything and i am a handgag lover as well as a gag fetishist which means i would love the chloro fantasy but only with a straight woman or Domina.I would urge you if i may to go back and read my posting on page two of the shared fantasies thread which is in response to your handgagging vanilla men when you were younger.I never liked male hand over mouth/chloro scenes/bondage scenes in TV or movies although the females were the ones always getting the gas so to speak.All i did was remove the femme fatale and make her a strong Dominant woman who overpowered me and not the guys on the tube.I was a quiet kid but when i had my mouth covered for the very first time in my life by a woman..needless to say i became a "butinsky"and a mouthy brat growing into my high school years.There was no shortage of ladies who would step up and shut me up and then realize that i was actually enjoying it.


And suddenly the fantasy isn't about her. It's about what you want her to do to you. Makes it no different from anyother person who's absorbed into their own fantasy and into being the director of the production of your own screen play as well.

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 1:56:54 PM   
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hey boijen ya hotness.

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 1:59:13 PM   
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hey hey sweetie...happy sunday!

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RE: Ok, my turn to troll - 3/23/2008 2:05:10 PM   
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True story.

I was once dating a guy that was a total smart ass. I am too, so we liked to give each other a lot of crap. One day I saked him if he ever got tired of bickering all the time and he replied "Nah. If i got tired of it I'd just use some of th chloroform I keep in my fridge." I replied "Uh huh, sure you would."

He got up, went to his fridge, and tossed me a bottle labeled chloroform.

I said "This is a joke, right?"

He said "breathe it and find out."

I was extremely tempted, but I didn't call his bluff. He isn't a very good liar though, and I could tell that he *really* wanted me to inhale the stuff, so I think it probably was actually chloroform.

Now, I warn all the women he dates that he keeps chloroform in his fridge. He whines at me for telling all his secrets ;)

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