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AAkasha -> Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/25/2008 10:13:54 PM)
Ok, so mind you, this femdom is in a bad way lately. Other femdoms will know what this means -- too little sleep, too much stress, not enough playtime = very one track mind. Anyway, for the third time this week, I was told by a hot young Canadian thing that he does not play hockey any longer because the gear is too expensive. It made me think -- Femdom Lightbulb Going Off In Head -- hey, I can barter with a hot, young Canadian thing (18 and over of course) that I will pay for his gear, so long as he understands I own the body that it's in. That means chastity, beatings, photo sessions, and behavior modification...one piece of gear at a time. Need new pads? Earn them. Stick broke in practice? Oh dear, see you at 6. I could set up an account with Bauer or whoever and start getting the gear wholesale. Eventually, I'd have my own team of hockey slaveboys. Now, of course, this is tongue-in-cheek. But, I do have an erotic fascination of the idea of buying stuff for a guy, if he can't afford it, in exchange for him submitting to me. I know some find that entire idea distasteful, but I find the erotic objectification of men for money to be really hot. My morals don't allow me to take it very far, though, and in reality I'd back down way before a guy felt really used in a bad way, but it's such a hot fantasy. Akasha

needDomme -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/25/2008 10:24:00 PM)
Akasha, What is immoral about it? Expensive, yes. But I don't see anything immoral about it. Of course I am somewhat naive. need

CoasttoCoast -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/25/2008 10:28:30 PM)
heck, you could probably just purchase the mighty ducks. I'm sure that they can use the money. :P it could be argued that it's immoral because the person needs the financial help, therefore their consent is coerced, and not really consent. that's kinda silly though. I know I think that it would be just about the hottest thing ever.

Pyrrsefanie -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/25/2008 10:29:39 PM)
Canadian boys and hockey... oh, these are a few of my favorite things! (Also, go Islanders, suck it, Penguins!) My boy and I are currently in the midst of a somewhat similar arrangement. He has discovered that being my little sissy bitch is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, he's actually begged me for shoes, panties, makeup, the whole nine yards! So I make him work for it. He wants me to give him tits? He can earn the breast forms. I reward his good behavior with panties and lingerie from his Victoria's Secret wishlist that I made him set up. It's wonderful -- I get to live out my fantasy of being a 'sugar momma,' since for the first time in my life I'm financially stable enough to do so, AND I get a man willing to do my bidding in order to further his own humiliation and feminization! [:D] I figure that the "it's prostitution zomg!" argument doesn't apply because in your case and mine, earning the respective gear doesn't require sexual acts. Hope that things settle down for you soon, and in the meantime, Bath and Body Works has a eucalyptus and spearmint pillow spray/lotion/etc. in their aromatherapy line for stress relief... I highly recommend it!

TermsConditions -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/25/2008 10:58:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Ok, so mind you, this femdom is in a bad way lately. Other femdoms will know what this means -- too little sleep, too much stress, not enough playtime = very one track mind. I am concerned for your well-being, but I marvel at how your mind works under such conditions. This is the sort of step-by-step, self-ensnared scenario I find facinating. If you heat a pan slowly, a frog will allow itself to be cooked without hopping away. Provided the proper motivation and encouragment the same frog will take down a pan, fill it with water, turn on the stove, hop in the pot and say "I am so lucky! You are so good to me!" So what sort of um, behavior modifications was it? Right. What sort of those things do you like to uh, contemplate? Back to your fantasy of owning a hockey team one stick at a time, the dynamic you describe does not seem to be that far from some very real arrangments between dominant men and women in an arrangment of a traditional marriage - less now than in the distant past because women have more opportunities and more power. In my own family, several decades ago an aunt was widowed and then married a man for the sole purpose of finding means to support herself. Where your fantasy scratches an itch, oops! I mean, crosses a line for me is the photo sessions. Particularly if the possibly less-than enthusiastic participant is pursuaded to sign a release form. And the photos are published. In a hockey magazine. And maybe he doesn't find out until his teammates show him the pictures. In the real world that would seem to be an obvious moral, and possibly legal, threshold. Great thread again. Hope you get some sleep, but not so much as to take this recent wicked edge off!

Parataxis -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 5:33:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CoasttoCoast it could be argued that it's immoral because the person needs the financial help, therefore their consent is coerced, and not really consent. I could buy that as a Utopian 'money shouldn't exist' type argument, but as a real world argument? I'm not sure. If money in exchange for BDSM makes it immoral, then a lot of ProDommes are out of business. If needing money to survive makes any decision coerced, then 75% of the US is employed against their will. (okay, well maybe I'll give you that one ;) ) People deciding what they will do for money is a free choice. Further, despite many arguments I'll likely get from my countrymen to the contrary, Hockey is not as important as food and shelter (I know, I know!). While you might be able to make an argument that recieving a service in exchange for money needed for food is excessively coersive (and I'd disagree strongly with that argument), the same can't be said about Hockey - he can simply go without. But to the orginal post I have only one word. HOT. Actually, make it three words; append 'HOT HOT!' to that. ;)

youngsubgeoff -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 6:11:16 AM)
I personally voulenteer for the enforcer job! Zdeno Chara wont have shit on me [:D]

Ahasver -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 7:28:40 AM)
Ooooh, I could need some new skates, these one would be soooo cool: http://shop.hockeyzentrale.de/shop/shop1prodview_iN1025774.html Please feel free to send me a somewhat lately easter gift [;)] Ok, no kidding, back to your hockey kid and his problem. First of all, isn't he member of a hockey team? I could get my whole gear from the team if I wish, of course it's not the best and the newest but it works. Secondly he could look for his stuff on Ebay, and yes I know used hockey gear has a tendency to "smell" a little bit (ok, the gloves just stink nasty), but nothing one couldn't deal with. I am really surprised to see a canadian couldn't afford hockey stuff, as I realize it is so much cheaper in the US or Canada than here in Germany. Is my impression so wrong?

badprofessor -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 8:00:22 AM)
Pardon me for kibbitzing in your forum, but on behalf of all Canadians, I would like to extend our gratitude for ensuring that our boys are able to realize their birthright. All I ask is that when you are working on that bruised shoulder or upper ankle injury he received from being slammed into the boards at 25 mph that you keep in mind that he will be required to hit the ice again in the next day or two...

herpet1313 -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 8:17:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie Canadian boys and hockey... oh, these are a few of my favorite things! (Also, go Islanders, suck it, Penguins!) My boy and I are currently in the midst of a somewhat similar arrangement. He has discovered that being my little sissy bitch is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, he's actually begged me for shoes, panties, makeup, the whole nine yards! So I make him work for it. He wants me to give him tits? He can earn the breast forms. I reward his good behavior with panties and lingerie from his Victoria's Secret wishlist that I made him set up. It's wonderful -- I get to live out my fantasy of being a 'sugar momma,' since for the first time in my life I'm financially stable enough to do so, AND I get a man willing to do my bidding in order to further his own humiliation and feminization! [:D] I figure that the "it's prostitution zomg!" argument doesn't apply because in your case and mine, earning the respective gear doesn't require sexual acts. Hope that things settle down for you soon, and in the meantime, Bath and Body Works has a eucalyptus and spearmint pillow spray/lotion/etc. in their aromatherapy line for stress relief... I highly recommend it!

herpet1313 -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 8:25:21 AM)
Sorry, I haven't mastered the quote framing thing. 12 years ago we, (my wife and I) first ventured into Femdom in a similar manner. We own a janitorial service and have a day account at a Condominium. On many Fridays I would offer to do it all (give her the day off) in exchange for a Saturday of her dominance. Thus, I had to earn the right to serve her. It was hot. Oh, by the the way, Go Red Wings!!

CoasttoCoast -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 8:37:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Parataxis quote: ORIGINAL: CoasttoCoast it could be argued that it's immoral because the person needs the financial help, therefore their consent is coerced, and not really consent. I could buy that as a Utopian 'money shouldn't exist' type argument, but as a real world argument? I'm not sure. If money in exchange for BDSM makes it immoral, then a lot of ProDommes are out of business. If needing money to survive makes any decision coerced, then 75% of the US is employed against their will. (okay, well maybe I'll give you that one ;) ) People deciding what they will do for money is a free choice. Further, despite many arguments I'll likely get from my countrymen to the contrary, Hockey is not as important as food and shelter (I know, I know!). While you might be able to make an argument that recieving a service in exchange for money needed for food is excessively coersive (and I'd disagree strongly with that argument), the same can't be said about Hockey - he can simply go without. But to the orginal post I have only one word. HOT. Actually, make it three words; append 'HOT HOT!' to that. ;) yeah. I don't buy it either, but I spend quite a bit of time on feminism boards, and this is a simplified version of the argument against prostitution in many cases. I don't believe it, just playing devils advocate. It is an entirely hot idea. I can't wait until we start seeing submissives with amazon.com wish lists.

AAkasha -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 9:06:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: badprofessor Pardon me for kibbitzing in your forum, but on behalf of all Canadians, I would like to extend our gratitude for ensuring that our boys are able to realize their birthright. All I ask is that when you are working on that bruised shoulder or upper ankle injury he received from being slammed into the boards at 25 mph that you keep in mind that he will be required to hit the ice again in the next day or two... Very hot. This response really turned me on. Very sneaky of you! That adds such a hot aspect of it; imagine, poor hockey player absolutely brutalized in a game, lip stitched up, bruised, sore back, still has to come over late that night to "earn" his new skates...hoping for some sympathy because he's so sore, he grimaces at the lightest tough....but he has to suck it up...after all, hockey is about pain, right? Akasha

AAkasha -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 9:09:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TermsConditions quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha Ok, so mind you, this femdom is in a bad way lately. Other femdoms will know what this means -- too little sleep, too much stress, not enough playtime = very one track mind. I am concerned for your well-being, but I marvel at how your mind works under such conditions. This is the sort of step-by-step, self-ensnared scenario I find facinating. If you heat a pan slowly, a frog will allow itself to be cooked without hopping away. Provided the proper motivation and encouragment the same frog will take down a pan, fill it with water, turn on the stove, hop in the pot and say "I am so lucky! You are so good to me!" So what sort of um, behavior modifications was it? Right. What sort of those things do you like to uh, contemplate? Back to your fantasy of owning a hockey team one stick at a time, the dynamic you describe does not seem to be that far from some very real arrangments between dominant men and women in an arrangment of a traditional marriage - less now than in the distant past because women have more opportunities and more power. In my own family, several decades ago an aunt was widowed and then married a man for the sole purpose of finding means to support herself. Where your fantasy scratches an itch, oops! I mean, crosses a line for me is the photo sessions. Particularly if the possibly less-than enthusiastic participant is pursuaded to sign a release form. And the photos are published. In a hockey magazine. And maybe he doesn't find out until his teammates show him the pictures. In the real world that would seem to be an obvious moral, and possibly legal, threshold. Great thread again. Hope you get some sleep, but not so much as to take this recent wicked edge off! Very interesting. I guess I find it kind of immoral on some level because it's a sexual need being fulfilled by a man who is doing it because he is coerced, not becuase he wants to. Of course, there are men that would not mind it and actually enjoy being coerced. The more I think of it, it has such great potential for a long story. While I would not consider the idea of taking the compromising pictures and sending them to a hockey magazine "just for fun" or cruelty, it would be interesting to consider that if one of those many young hockey studs were to go pro, he'd be on the hook to continue behaving for fear the pictures could be released. That's a hot idea (not a hot reality, big difference - I'm not into blackmail). Akasha

TermsConditions -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 10:09:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha quote: ORIGINAL: TermsConditions <stuff deleted> Where your fantasy scratches an itch, oops! I mean, crosses a line for me is the photo sessions. Particularly if the possibly less-than enthusiastic participant is pursuaded to sign a release form. And the photos are published. In a hockey magazine. And maybe he doesn't find out until his teammates show him the pictures. In the real world that would seem to be an obvious moral, and possibly legal, threshold. Great thread again. Hope you get some sleep, but not so much as to take this recent wicked edge off! Very interesting. I guess I find it kind of immoral on some level because it's a sexual need being fulfilled by a man who is doing it because he is coerced, not becuase he wants to. Of course, there are men that would not mind it and actually enjoy being coerced. The more I think of it, it has such great potential for a long story. While I would not consider the idea of taking the compromising pictures and sending them to a hockey magazine "just for fun" or cruelty, it would be interesting to consider that if one of those many young hockey studs were to go pro, he'd be on the hook to continue behaving for fear the pictures could be released. That's a hot idea (not a hot reality, big difference - I'm not into blackmail). Akasha The power imbalance and coersion makes it imoral. Doing it for sex makes it an interesting story. And was it just a turn of phrase, "kind of immoral" or are there degrees of morality? You may have also been indicating that it may or may not be immoral depending on the perspective or specific circumstance. Of course this is all fantasy and I think you could make a fantastic story from it. From your response elsewhere in the thread I think your are interested in the discomfort / pain / pure two-handed ass-whipping aspect while I was thinking more of the humiliation / subjecation angle. And you indicate that "chastity, beatings, photo sessions, and behavior modification" <struggling to type here> might also be central to such a tale. I am more than hungry to assist you in developing some of those behaviour modification ideas if you want to post them here on the board. I'm sure others would be equally interested as well. I meant happy. I would be happy to assist :-)

Najakcharmer -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 11:58:02 AM)
Mmm. I think that's pretty fucking hot. I'd cock an eyebrow at it if you were picking up homeless street boys from the gutter who were desperate enough to trade their bodies for food and shelter, because I'm not sure they'd be truly consenting. But a young adult who wants the luxury of playing hockey but can't afford it on a student budget, and who would be interested in a naughty arrangement with a dominant sugar mamma, I see no issues with that. You know you could make him like it, and probably kink him up for life. [:D]

ShaktiSama -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 12:04:38 PM)
I agree with Najak. Trading sex for luxuries exists at an entirely different level of morality than trading sex for necessities. I don't believe it's right to exploit people who are not really able to refuse because they are coerced by starvation, homelessness, or the need to support their families. When a person is willing to playfully trade sex for luxuries they cannot otherwise afford, however, the game becomes something much more roleplay-oriented. They can back out or find some other way to fund their game at any time. Besides, why are these pretty young things telling you their troubles for, if they don't want you to solve them...? [:D]

Decimus -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 1:03:05 PM)
Not to hijack your thread Miss AAkasha but I understand if all these women would do this for a hockey player/team....what about us geeks? Where are all the "sugar momma's" who would buy computer parts! That is where the real luxary is [;)]!

aidan -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 2:02:38 PM)
I've played at this concept before (not for sports equipment but fetish clothing) and I didn't find anything morally wrong with it. We both had fun and got something from the exchange. Everybody left happy. It's a good self-esteem builder and it'll probably help boost their confidence on the ice. The benefits just keep piling up. Now, who would like to sponsor my career in the professional gaming circuit? [;)]

bschwimmer -> RE: Owning a hockey team...one player at a time (3/26/2008 2:58:12 PM)
Lets Go Islanders !! I dont want to be be a chicken I dont want to be a duck The Rangers SUCK!!!!

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